Posted on 07/29/2009 2:01:54 PM PDT by Stoat
Hassan Butt, 29, also accused officers of acting "like the Gestapo" and asked them: "Why are you treating me like a Paki?"
Butt, who once admitted having claimed he was a terrorist to make money from the media, was convicted of committing a racially aggravated public order offence by District Judge Diana Baker at Manchester Magistrates Court.
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Butt, defending himself, admitted he used the words Paki and Gestapo and accepted he used the word hooligan, and possibly the word white, but denied calling the police rednecks.
Judge Baker told him: "You demonstrated towards the officers hostility based on their membership of a racial group."
Butt, of Copthorne Lane, Cheetham Hill, Manchester, was fined £200 and ordered to pay £100 costs and a victim surcharge of £15.
Judge Baker added: "I take seriously any form of racist abuse and feel the courts must strive to protect people."
Butt has previously admitted feeding untruths to journalists in order to "cash in" and having plans to write an autobiography called Leaving Al Qaida: Inside The Life And Mind of A British Jihadist.
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Hassan Butt Update
Butt?
Named Hassan Butt, his fans are Hassan Buttheads.
What?
White Redneck Hooligan Ping.
Butt sounds like a real ass.
I have mixed emotions on this. While it is delicious that the law protects against white racism as other forms of racism, I believe freedom of speech should be paramount.
“Asian” in UK means Muslim.
They got Rednecks in England? I thought it rained all the time.....
So...when are the Whites going to call for action and demand their rights? Were is the ACLU on this for us, LOL!
What do white redneck “hooligans” have to be ashamed of? Oh right, this is Britain.
Asian in UK means Indian, Pakistani, Sri Lankan, Afghan, Bangladeshi etc.
Oriental means Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese etc.
The leftovers of colonialist parlance.
Confusing thing about the UK is “asian” man usually mens some guy weird beard.
But “If the sun don’t shine you get a tan from standing in the English rain.”
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!
I am a big fan of Free Speech and people should be allowed to say what they want.
Having said that, if we are going to have any kind of “Racist Speech” laws then KUDOS to the Brits to applying it all around.
As much as I hate The Donald (Trump not Duck), the ONE time in my life when I admired him was when in The Apprentice (yes, yes, I watched the show...now get off my back) he FIRED a white guy for using the term “White Trash”. He said it was demeaning and racist, which it IS!!
Something similar can happen in Canada.
Oh, oh I wanna play.
Being labeled a “redneck” by the International and Domestic Race Pigs on Parade is a badge of honor.
Let’s try this:
Butt’s Beard looks like a moth-eaten, discount-store whisk broom.
Do I win?
Butt shoulda buttered up the cops rather than butting into their business!
Round Huffman Texas.. not much.
We actually are quite short of what the article calls "Asian" folks.
We'd be happy to have 'em if they like barbeque, 4-wheelers and beer.
Jesus on Sundays.
Guns for hunting & defense, explosives for stumps.
Very few rules, but strictly enforced. ;-)
My favorite ping list!
I knew this story was about a muslim when I read this:
Butt turned up
Man, I hope so.
"White Redneck Hooligan Ping".
It's not like I maintain a bunch of popular ping lists, you know.
I must work with what I have.
So ‘Oriental’ is the PC term for far-eastern Asians in the UK?
Those rednecks at I.U. got some ‘splainin’ to do!
I have to laugh a bit: “Yes, Officer, I used the words ‘Paki’, ‘Gestapo’, and maybe ‘white’. But I DID NOT use the word ‘redneck!’”
That’ll teach that thar racist mouth breather.
You guys still comin over to help me get that engine block out of the tree ?
Bertha an Beulah !!
Both have way to much junk in their trunks !!
I keep tellin' you we can burn down that tree or pull it over with the Chevy.
That would get the block out the tree.
You always want to do things the hard way!
One of the true idiosyncracies of the English speaking world. Almost as idiosyncratic as the way the term 'American' is used.
What does an Asian look like? (it's answered the same as what does an American look like?). 'Asian', if taken at face value, implies a huge blend of people. White skinned ones, very dark skinned ones, almond-eyed ones... In the States when someone says Asian invariably they mean 'Chinese looking'. But Pakistan and India are both part of Asia (as is Russia). The Brits don't do any better- as you point out they usually mean 'Pakistani/Indian looking' but I have asked a few Brits what they pictured on hearing the word have been told 'nothing specific/a range of possibilities' (although the probabilities seem to be weighted towards 'Pakistani looking').
It is like America. A Brazilian is an American. As is a Mexican. When I was younger and wanted firm rules that made sense, this used to grate a bit but as I got older, I realised that the English language itself is at fault here. That and the fact that we chose a name for ourselves that doesn't lend itself easily to the usage- although in Spanish one can say it specifically 'Soy estadosunidense'. Which means literally 'I am a United Stateser'. I use this usage when speaking Spanish instead of saying 'Soy Americano'.
But there is no way to win that battle because in most other languages it seems it is also codified- Ich bin Amerikaner. There is just no way for someone from the US to say it in English (or many other languages) without seizing both continents, north and south, for himself.
Chain Saw or a stick or two of dynamite!
Nothing PC about it. Different country, different usage of the language. Not everybody speaks English the same way. LOL, we say aluminum, they say aluminium (a loo mini um- 5 syllables) :-)
It's funny, I was chatting to someone from rural Georgia (my birth place) on the phone the other night and was trying to explain to her that the Scots don't say 'you're in my way'; they tend to say 'you're in my road'. She wanted to know why they said it that way, why didn't they just say it the 'normal way'. It's like she thought the Scots were just trying to be difficult.
LOL, the Scots call a soft drink (i.e. Coca Cola) 'juice' as well. I always ask them which tree the coca cola fruit is grown and they look at me like I'm stupid.
You named that new mule Chevy ?
“”white redneck hooligans”
If there ever was a name for a new band, this would be it.
The ironic thing here is the man is referring to himself as a ‘Paki’ which is a racial epithet in the UK. If a white person said that to him, they’d get in a lot of trouble.
You guys still comin over to help me get that engine block out of the tree ?
I keep tellin’ you we can burn down that tree or pull it over with the Chevy.
That would get the block out the tree.
You always want to do things the hard way!....................................................................................................................................................................................................................
I got a chain saw and a tractor if that will help!
Yes, the ‘urban’ and gangbanger-wannabee blacks call each other ‘the N-word’* here in the USA but if a white person were to use that word even in jest among friends he would be in a world of hurt.
* PC expression used in this context because I don’t want to be banned from FR.
They’s all named Chevy.
“If there ever was a name for a new band, this would be it.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntt2YECVpfw
No need to get sexy now....:o)
Don’t dodge the question tryin to get me to ford the river......
Except for S&A's video link...that is just so wrong.....bleach is not strong enough to wash that out of my eyes....
““Asian” in UK means Muslim.”
Asian does not mean ‘Muslim’ at all in the UK. It’s is generally used to denote someone of Pakistani, Indian or Bangladeshi origin.
The reason for this being that, due to those being former British colonies, seeing someone from one of those countries was a Brit’s first view of someone from the continent of asia when immigration to the UK began to occur from the 1950s.
There are therefore plenty of non-Muslim ‘asians’ and plenty of non-’asian’ Muslims.
UKTory, I was listening to a Gertrude Lawrence CD today - it’s a CD I bought on Ebay.
I understand your point, but when did they start calling Arabs/Muslims Asians? Isn’t that in the last few years?
Hank Hill: “What Ocean?”
“I understand your point, but when did they start calling Arabs/Muslims Asians?”
No, the usage dates back much further. For instance, UK police forces on their national computer (which dates to the early ‘70s) have seperate ethnic classifications for ‘asian’ (IC4) and ‘oriental’ (IC5).
Someone of Arabic descent would be described as arabic, however, not asian.
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