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Salon.com "Immigrants should be eligible for the presidency"...
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Posted on 07/28/2009 3:41:44 PM PDT by MelSmith

Salon is paving the way for an "it's OK" rationale just in case BO did commit fraud regarding his birth certificate. Salon's wisdom includes "How did this discriminatory clause get incorporated in the Constitution?" and "Some of the greatest traitors in American history have been natural-born citizens."

Let's watch for a continued effort in the media to create a "So what?" context for the possible revelation of a birth certificate fraud by their messiah.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: certifigate; eligibility; foreigners; fraudqualification; ineligible; naturalborn; obamatruthfile
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Of course, because Mr. Obama is not giving permission to allow anyone to inspect his birth documentation that is on file in Hawaii, I'm convinced he was not born in Hawaii. (Nor am I swayed from this view just because people like Bill O'Reilly don't know what "investigative journalism" means.)
1 posted on 07/28/2009 3:41:45 PM PDT by MelSmith
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To: MelSmith

Well it is starting.When do we fight?


2 posted on 07/28/2009 3:44:52 PM PDT by imahawk (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: MelSmith
I'm convinced he was not born in Hawaii.

...or, if he was born there, his parents' status would put him out-of-bounds, or his faith is listed as ROP...

3 posted on 07/28/2009 3:48:05 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: MelSmith

It matters not how the clause was incorporated into the Constitution. The fact is, it’s there. And, it should be operational, functional, and enforced.
There is also a process spelling out how to CHANGE the Constitution. And, that process is NOT just having some manner of liberal cranial flatulence, or a change of seasons.

The Constitution...Use it or Lose it!


4 posted on 07/28/2009 3:48:15 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: MelSmith

And MOST if not all of Americas enemies are foreign born.


5 posted on 07/28/2009 3:48:28 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: MelSmith

Of all the things I have read, it is oddly this which makes me think, hmmmmmm. It sounds a little “deja eu”(been heard before) in the Clinton days regarding Lewinski...”so what, who cares, move on, everybody does it, famous and important men in our history were unfaithful, etc. etc.” Don’t they see that they are lending a great deal of credibility here?


6 posted on 07/28/2009 3:48:50 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: imahawk

“When do we fight?” I’ve been fighting for a long time. Letters to both my Senators and my Rep, e-mails to anyone concerned. And donations where appropriate. I do NOT care if this accusation of fraud is uncomfortable for anyone, or that it is not a fashionable topic to discuss. I want to be able to show my children what I did to try to expose the fraud.


7 posted on 07/28/2009 3:48:58 PM PDT by MelSmith
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To: All
Headline?

Schwarzenegger adopted, raised by Austrian family
I Was Born In Hawaii, Says California Governor
"Me too!" say several aspiring foreign political figures.

8 posted on 07/28/2009 3:49:16 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: MelSmith

They can’t change the rules after the election starts! Arnold Schwarzenegger could have run.


9 posted on 07/28/2009 3:49:59 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: MelSmith

From the beginning I said that this would lead to an attempt to open the doors to a presidential free for all.


10 posted on 07/28/2009 3:50:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: MelSmith

No, they should not! The reasons aer obvious.


11 posted on 07/28/2009 3:51:12 PM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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To: penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; April Lexington; ...
~~DING!

"But it doesn't really matter where McCain or Obama was born. In the first Naturalization Act of 1790, Congress, which included many leaders who had drafted the federal Constitution in Philadelphia, defined "natural-born" to include the children of American citizens born outside the United States. And Supreme Court interpretations of the 14th Amendment have established that children of foreign nationals born on U.S. soil are citizens of the United States."

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The convergence comes down to hyperbolic fantasy, which some Democrat will probably pick up and put in a bill for them to vote on.

Okay .. THIS IS DEADLY SERIOUS.

DICK CHENEY, IF YOU'VE GOT ANY CARDS TO PLAY, TIME'S UP .. PLAY THEM NOW!!

12 posted on 07/28/2009 3:51:13 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: MelSmith

They have already shredded the Constitution


13 posted on 07/28/2009 3:51:20 PM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.)
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To: MelSmith

Trample my Constitution at your own risk.


14 posted on 07/28/2009 3:52:16 PM PDT by chris37
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To: MelSmith

Here is the admission that Obama is an immigrunt.

Everyone knows it too.

Obama is not eligible to be POTUS. *sigh* And Not a damn thing will be done to stop him from killing America and killing Americans.


15 posted on 07/28/2009 3:53:26 PM PDT by indylindy (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: MelSmith

Well....IMHO..this confirms ALL of our worst suspicions...


16 posted on 07/28/2009 3:53:28 PM PDT by mo
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To: MelSmith
Natural born, loyalty to the U.S. -- it matters not to 1960s Marxist-Alinsky hippie street rabble and their ideological issue (children)-cum-Rat Party (formerly the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party). They've campaigned for everyone from Che to Ho to Mao.

(That ain't name calling. The Sixties Marxist-Alinsky hippie street rabble really have taken over the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party. Under the hail of "neo-con" taunts many Democrats fled the Party.)

17 posted on 07/28/2009 3:53:51 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: MelSmith
They KNOW he is unqualified... no doubt... and I find it funny and most pleasing.

LLS

18 posted on 07/28/2009 3:54:33 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: MelSmith

Liberals argue like teenagers. Same illogic, same whining.


19 posted on 07/28/2009 3:54:37 PM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: MelSmith

Ping


20 posted on 07/28/2009 3:54:41 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: PubliusMM

All enemies, foriegn and domestic.


21 posted on 07/28/2009 3:55:59 PM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MelSmith

Just like a staunch Conservative should be able to be CEO of Salon.com


22 posted on 07/28/2009 3:56:01 PM PDT by HighWheeler (The higher the concentration of libs, the bigger the tragedy that follows.)
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To: MelSmith

Salon.com thinks that its writers are smarter and wiser than the Founding Fathers. And apparently no one there has read the Federalist Papers. What does that tell you about Salon.com?


23 posted on 07/28/2009 3:56:20 PM PDT by La Lydia ( Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: MelSmith
Please. Why don't we just toss the whole rule of law out the window already. It's just too, too inconvenient. We've already legalized murder and theft (abortion and taxes). So what's the big deal? /sarc
24 posted on 07/28/2009 3:56:39 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.aroodawakening.tv)
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To: MelSmith
"...Salon.com "Immigrants should be eligible for the presidency..."

But they're not. The end. Next.

25 posted on 07/28/2009 3:57:00 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: Dallas59

“And MOST if not all of Americas enemies are foreign born.”
I disagree. Most of Americas worst enemies are natural born citizens, the majority are currently residing in Washington D.C..


26 posted on 07/28/2009 3:57:17 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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To: MelSmith

More fuel on the fire. Something’s coming down.


27 posted on 07/28/2009 3:57:39 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Dallas59

Imagine president Soros. He’ll have the money to buy his first and second term and then the term limits will be gone.


28 posted on 07/28/2009 4:02:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Menehune56
More fuel on the fire. Something’s coming down.

It's going to be very interesting to see what is coming.

29 posted on 07/28/2009 4:04:12 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Only feces and dead fish go with the flow.)
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To: Menehune56

I have the same sneaking feeling. Perhaps it’s those billions in stimulus dollars “at work”.


30 posted on 07/28/2009 4:07:12 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Menehune56

If zero is natural born, which I sincerely doubt because of resistance in producing a legitimate birth certificate, any adoption papers, Indonesian school paperwork, a legitimate passport (expired’s fine - reference to Pakistan visit which wasn’t allowed at that time) and of course transcripts from all schools he attended, I’ll accept it. If he’s a fraud which many of us suspect, he must answer to the killing of American service men and women, and a whole string of other wrongdoings which will be one hellofa mess to sort out.


31 posted on 07/28/2009 4:10:28 PM PDT by yorkie01
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To: skimbell
"...Salon.com "Immigrants should be eligible for the presidency..." But they're not. The end. Next.

Even naturalized citizens like myself are not eligible. Salon.com is living in the world of ought-to-be (not the world of how-it-is).

32 posted on 07/28/2009 4:16:19 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.aroodawakening.tv)
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To: STARWISE

I am starting to think that the ones on our side that are giving up on our constitution are trying to protect Romney at this point. His father was born in Mexico to American citizens. Perhaps they are fearful that if we make a big stink over Obama, that the left is going to make a stink about Romney?

It shouldn’t matter though. Both of Romney’s parents were US citizens. Obama’s father was not a citizen at all.

Something very evil is going on though. If Romney isn’t qualified...so be it. Most of us can’t stand him anyway. But to make an ‘exception’ now for Obama or Romney, spells disaster in the years to come. The son or daughter of Osama bin laden could concievably become Potus one day for crying out loud if this kind of thought becomes the law of the land!

Pray for our country!


33 posted on 07/28/2009 4:18:35 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: MelSmith

This piece is the sincerest form of birther flattery.


34 posted on 07/28/2009 4:22:11 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: penelopesire

Oh I’m sure there are plenty of republicans who would like to see the the natural born requirement fade away.


35 posted on 07/28/2009 4:28:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: MelSmith

He’s the ultimate test to our constitution. If he is found to be a fraud but continues to be POTUS, there goes our foundation. A country once so strong is standing on shifting sands. If you’ve never found religion, you better find it now.


36 posted on 07/28/2009 4:31:20 PM PDT by peridot
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To: MelSmith

No they should not.

Divided loyalties are not appropriate for our President.


37 posted on 07/28/2009 4:33:10 PM PDT by bannie
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To: cripplecreek

This Lind guy is a radical leftwing nut and race war baiter. Just got through wading through some of his filthy writings. Pretty telling.


38 posted on 07/28/2009 4:39:42 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

“I am starting to think that the ones on our side that are giving up on our constitution are trying to protect Romney at this point. His father was born in Mexico to American citizens. Perhaps they are fearful that if we make a big stink over Obama, that the left is going to make a stink about Romney?”

No one has ever gone through the tortured logic described above.


39 posted on 07/28/2009 5:00:06 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: MelSmith

Just another Soros or liber left website. I wonder how much stimulus start-up money they received?


40 posted on 07/28/2009 5:03:12 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: MelSmith

Posted this there:

Citizenship and the Presidency

To amend the Constitution requires the approval of 35 of the States. The wisdom of The Framers.

Listen. And listen damn well.

We will NEVER, EVER, EVER, allow the Constitution to be amended to allow naturalized citizens to become President. You can take that to the bank.

Any attempt to change that provision, by fraud, or coercion, or deceit (re: ACORN tactics) will provoke a Second Civil War, and the dissolution of this nation.

Forget it.

Now, show us the Long Form Birth Certificate, with the attending physician’s signature and the name of the hospital, just as mine and my child’s has.

Show it to us! No more b.s. and cheap forgeries.


41 posted on 07/28/2009 5:06:21 PM PDT by BabaOreally
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To: yorkie01
If he’s a fraud which many of us suspect, he must answer to the killing of American service men and women, and a whole string of other wrongdoings which will be one hellofa mess to sort out.

If I find out this clown is a fraud, answering any questions is the last thing he'll be doing as I drag his sorry marxist lying ass right out of the Whitehouse!

American's will NOT put up with a FRAUD, especially one that wears MOM JEANS!

42 posted on 07/28/2009 5:07:40 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Gravity Of The Situation...)
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To: Tublecane
No one has ever gone through the tortured logic described above.

Agreed but there are far better republicans who fall outside the natural born requirement. Pete Hoekstra is a good example.
43 posted on 07/28/2009 5:13:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Jane Austen

Sorry Charlie, you must change the Constitution to do this. I don’t think you want to open a Constitutional Convention because it may not go they way you Liberals want. Lots of great men were not US Citizens but they can’t run for president at this point. That old piece of paper—the Constitution, has done a good job these last 200 years or so—lets not fix what aint broke.


44 posted on 07/28/2009 5:14:01 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: sirchtruth
If he is proven to be a fraud, he won't answer to anything. Plugs will pardon him and the libs will turn him into a victim.
45 posted on 07/28/2009 5:14:02 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: Tublecane

Explain please. Whose ‘tortured logic’ are you speaking of? The race baiting marxist pig, Lind or mine...lol


46 posted on 07/28/2009 5:30:40 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Dallas59

some of us took an oath to defend the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic...and were never released from that oath.


47 posted on 07/28/2009 5:31:53 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Kenya? Kenya? Kenya just show us the birth certificate?)
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To: imahawk
I knew this crap would happen!
Rather than come out and admit straight p he is an African they will try and BS their way around the law one more time.
48 posted on 07/28/2009 5:31:55 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: PubliusMM
Now explain that to those people who think Jindal can run for president.
49 posted on 07/28/2009 5:39:48 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Sorry, I should have stated it more clearly. I do NOT want to change the Constition. I want to keep the requirement as it is. And no, I am not a liberal.


50 posted on 07/28/2009 6:35:20 PM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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