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A fact the Left ignores: the KGB seriously infiltrated postwar America
telegraph.co.uk ^ | July 27, 2009

Posted on 07/27/2009 8:52:23 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Joe McCarthy’s anti-communist campaign during the post-war era in the US remain one of the great totemic events in liberal-Left mythology. Every time there is a revival of Arthur Miller’s play The Crucible, solemn words are trotted out about how this metaphor for the appalling witch-hunts which ruined careers is a devastating indictment of irrational fear, blah blah blah.

Well, not exactly. The point of The Crucible is that there were no witches. But back in the real world, there certainly were spies. A new book, Spies: The Rise and Fall of the KGB in America by John Earl Haynes, Harvey Klehr and Alexander Vassiliev, tells us quite how many. It offers further proof that Soviet infiltration in the US was vast. The most important revelation in the book is the remarkable number of prewar and wartime Americans – over 500, from a great variety of backgrounds – who assisted Soviet intelligence.

One of their number, Alger Hiss, became a liberal hero, an innocent who was maligned by McCarthy’s obsession. As the book recounts, this view persisted despite persuasive evidence of his treachery. Academic chairs were set up in his honour. But this new book, having looked at all the fresh evidence, is damming. The files show that after the Yalta conference Hiss was secretly awarded the order of the Red Star during a visit to Moscow.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Russia
KEYWORDS: algerhiss; coldwar; coldwar2; communism; democrats; espionage; joemccarthy; kgb; obama; putin; radicalleft; russia; sovietunion; venona

1 posted on 07/27/2009 8:52:23 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Nah....could never happen. Sarc/


2 posted on 07/27/2009 9:01:30 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Tailgunner Joe

3 posted on 07/27/2009 9:02:44 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The left won in many ways. They control the media, the schools, old mainline churches, the government (no matter which party is in office), and the large foundations.


4 posted on 07/27/2009 9:03:18 PM PDT by PghBaldy (http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/06/president-obama-visits-wounded-troops.html)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Yesterday C-SPAN ran Brian Lamb's interview of Susan Jacoby, who has a new book about Alger Hiss. Although she calls herself an unabashed liberal, she's still 98% convinced that Hiss was a Soviet spy and that what Whittaker Chambers alleged about him was true.

At one point in the interview they quoted Alger Hiss' comment to Richard Nixon: "I went to Harvard. You went to Whittier College."

5 posted on 07/27/2009 9:07:17 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Instead, we get George Clooney’s Goodnight and Good Luck.

In which the adulation of Edward R. Murrow was incredibly thick.

I'd like to see someone write some kind of expose on Murrow and how he had a detrimental effect on CBS which led to Cronkite, Rather, the 60 Minutes culture and greasing the rails for the liberal agenda. (Vietnam, Watergate, etc. etc.)

6 posted on 07/27/2009 9:10:26 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Tailgunner Joe

WH commie bump...


7 posted on 07/27/2009 9:11:30 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: what's up

“...I’d like to see someone write some kind of expose on Murrow and how he had a detrimental effect on CBS...”

I wonder about CBS chief William S. Paley and his wife Babe Cushing and their influence on CBS politics. Babe was the daughter of pioneer neurosurgeon Harvey Cushing but she was a society girl and close to Truman Capote and other Left Bank notables. While Paley was known to watch the advertising and money angle of the biz he gave Murrow a boost.


8 posted on 07/27/2009 9:24:37 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
A fact the Left ignores: the KGB seriously infiltrated postwar America

The left was spawned by and born in it. They want us to ignore it.
9 posted on 07/27/2009 9:30:29 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Perhaps this is why Obama was reluctant to see Vladimir Putin.


10 posted on 07/27/2009 10:02:42 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90
Perhaps this is why Obama was reluctant to see Vladimir Putin.

Obama calls him "master".

11 posted on 07/27/2009 10:19:45 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Tailgunner Joe

My late father was in the Marine Corps color guard that carried Joe McCarthy to his rest. Dad was a recruiter in the Appleton, Wisconsin area in the mid and late fifties.

At one point, Mrs. McCarthy became disturbed because drunken members of the press were speculating on spitting into the casket.

Mrs. McCarthy asked Dad to do something. He assured her that he would draw his sword, even if it violated protocol. Only one of those commie whores ever looked his way, and did not much like the return stare of a Guadalcanal and Pellelieu veteran in dress blues. No one accosted the senator’s body during the ceremony and burial.

Semper Fi, Dad. God rest you both.


12 posted on 07/27/2009 11:06:37 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Monterrosa-24
I've read that Paley and Murrow had tensions over the "See It Now" format. Apparently, Paley didn't like the Murrow method of raking a person over the coals without giving the person equal time to respond. I think Murrow was the beginning of muck-raking TV.
13 posted on 07/28/2009 12:01:24 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Ann Coulter's book "Treason" does a good job on this also.

Treason @ Amazon.com

Spies: The Rise and Fall of the KGB in America @ Amazon.com

14 posted on 07/28/2009 12:49:16 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: what's up
I'd like to see someone write some kind of expose on Murrow and how he had a detrimental effect on CBS which led to Cronkite, Rather, the 60 Minutes culture and greasing the rails for the liberal agenda. (Vietnam, Watergate, etc. etc.)

A name you don't hear any more is Sam Jaffe (sp?), CBS Middle East correspondent who was canned in the 70's by the network when it "came to light" that he was in fact working for KGB.

Nobody's ever written a comprehensive book on Red influence agents in media, although there were several.

15 posted on 07/28/2009 1:30:45 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Luke21
Your dad was a good man and a good Marine. All it took was a look, to settle the worldly Algonquin Bar know-it-alls down.
16 posted on 07/28/2009 1:33:13 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Verginius Rufus
At one point in the interview they quoted Alger Hiss' comment to Richard Nixon: "I went to Harvard. You went to Whittier College."

It was that kind of arrogance that drove Nixon onward, and eventually off the rails, after he saw how morally crooked the "keepers of the flame" were.

It'd be fun to see an Excel spreadsheet run out, balancing the "moral books" between Nixon and his chief antagonists in MSM, either the press as a whole or its leading lights in the "posse" that chased him from, well, 1952 to the grave.

Who was straighter? Who was the bigger hypocrite and liar? It would be a fun exercise to turn a bunch of sophomores loose on.

17 posted on 07/28/2009 1:38:34 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
It would be a fun exercise to turn a bunch of sophomores loose on.

They'd come to the "correct" conclusion, those sophomores.

18 posted on 07/28/2009 2:15:06 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Just reading John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr's 2003 book, In Denial: Historians, Communism & Espionage. It does an excellent job describing how leftists, for decades and decades, and even to this day, continue to defend and excuse traitors, and smear truth tellers, even in the face of conclusive evidence.

I knew about much of this, but it remains shocking and almost unbelievable. (Not least, how much tacit support the leftist revisionists receive from "mainstream" history orgs and from textbook writers.)

19 posted on 07/28/2009 2:16:49 AM PDT by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Stultis
This history, btw, also gives lie to the original "New Left" claim that they weren't pro-Communist, they were just "anti-anti-Communist." If that claim were true, they would have, and would, only focus on debunking genuine excesses and errors by anti-Communists. But they didn't and they don't. It's the fingering of the REAL perps that always pisses them of the most, and the attempted revisionism is carried out not in obscure extremist rags, but in mainstream "progressive" mags like The Nation.
20 posted on 07/28/2009 2:26:18 AM PDT by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Marxists are elitists, convinced that they are innately superior and hence entitled to be in charge of the entire life of society. The famous “workers” (aka, the mob) have always been nothing but the weapon used by the elite, a group of self-annointed illuminati who know better than anyone or anything else.

This even pre-dates communism; look at some of the bloodier figures of the French Revolution, intellectuals all. It is no accident that Alinksy dedicated his book to Lucifer, because that is, essentially, the leftist attitude: they cut loose from religion and reason because there is no person and no institution that knows more than they and no wisdom greater than theirs.

In Whittaker Chambers’ Witness, virtually all of the worst traitors were from blue-blooded New England families, or were trust fund babies, or were professors at the Ivies...you get the idea. They were people who had been born with or acquired a sense of entitlement and Marxism enabled them to impose this vision of themselves on others.


21 posted on 07/28/2009 2:39:14 AM PDT by livius
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To: Stultis; Tailgunner Joe

I’m reading “Blacklisted by History” by M. Stanton Evans. It’s about McCarthy and the situation leading up to the hearings. The facts are jaw-dropping, and one interesting thing was how complicit the US government under Roosevelt and then Truman was in covering up the communists within, blocking investigations, etc. The State Department was particularly riddled with them, including some in policy-making positions.


22 posted on 07/28/2009 2:43:44 AM PDT by livius
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To: Tailgunner Joe

My guess is that Obama’s gma and gpa were two of them.


23 posted on 07/28/2009 3:02:20 AM PDT by ODDITHER (HAT)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

bflr


24 posted on 07/28/2009 6:39:27 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
[Me] It would be a fun exercise to turn a bunch of sophomores loose on.

[Thee] They'd come to the "correct" conclusion, those sophomores.

Ah, but not if they were students at a university or college where Western Civilization is taught without the poisonous drippings of academic Marxism.

A fair assessment could be had, I think, at Clairmont-McKenna, for example, or Pepperdine, or Regis College, or Bob Jones University, or Oral Roberts, or Abilene Christian, or Texas A&M University, or at some number of other campuses that people in a better position to know could name (people like, say, Charles Krauthammer or Alan Keyes or any of a number of other mappers of Gramscian academic political and intellectual corruption), where faculty Marxism hasn't polarized, frozen, personalized, etc. etc., the pursuit of truth and beauty.

Would anyone else like to nominate campuses where they think a fair show could be held, in an atmosphere actually conducive to learning without Frankfurt School indoctrination?

25 posted on 07/28/2009 6:40:33 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: livius

“Marxists are elitists, convinced that they are innately superior and hence entitled to be in charge of the entire life of society.”

All the more reason to exterminate all of them.


26 posted on 07/28/2009 6:50:32 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: livius
I’m reading “Blacklisted by History” by M. Stanton Evans. .....how complicit the US government under Roosevelt and then Truman was in covering up the communists within, blocking investigations, etc.

The Communist espionage apparatus from the earliest days relied on class ties to facilitate penetration. The Philby ring began with homosexual faculty at Oxbridge, and a (probably homosexual) professor, never identified to this day, who used his personal corruption of students to facilitate his recruitment for Feliks Dzherzhinsky's OGPU/NKVD spy rings.

People in the States in the 40's were not unaware of the penetration of academia, having been warned during the days of the Palmer Raids and later on, when ex-Communists denounced Columbia and Indiana University as hotbeds. Even as young people "back home in Indiana", my parents' generation knew Indiana University was full of "pinks".

In the 50's, my father told me about a planeload of fissionable isotopes that was air-freighted from an air base in the northern U.S. to Siberia. An Army Air Force security officer tried to stop the shipment at a Montana air base somewhere (so the story went, half-remembered now), and he started telephoning his superiors for directions on how to handle the obviously contraband shipment. He soon found himself talking to none other than Harry Dexter White, who fulminated at the security officer, threatening all sorts of retribution divine and not-so-divine, if he didn't release that shipment post-*******-haste and rush it off to Siberia. The security officer, intimidated and convinced the shipment was legitimately at the orders of the President and C-in-C, released the flight, and off the isotopes went to Russia and the waiting Joseph Stalin.

There was a similar story about a shipment of Rolls-Royce Nene jet engines from England to the Soviets. The Nene engine, copied in thousands, became the powerplant of the MiG-15 fighter, which killed scores of American pilots over Korea.

27 posted on 07/28/2009 7:02:45 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Because the left is so damned ignorant they often conflate and confuse McCarthy with HUAC. McCarthy AFAIK, was only concerned with commies in the army. Whereas HUAC, were the ones that went after Hollyweird as well as Hiss. But to a liberal, it’s all “McCarthy” because they only know what they have been spoonfed. Even the so-called literati make this mistake all the time.


28 posted on 07/28/2009 7:05:43 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
But to a liberal, it’s all “McCarthy” because they only know what they have been spoonfed. Even the so-called literati make this mistake all the time.

Not really. They're just "staying 'on message'" -- the message that came from Moscow Centre, i.e. KGB Active Measures.

29 posted on 07/28/2009 7:10:13 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Always convenient to have a single scapegoat to focus the hate on, McCarthy, Bush, etc.


30 posted on 07/28/2009 7:18:41 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I'm currently reading Whittaker Chambers's Witness. It is quite a magnificent book, and should be a required read for all.
31 posted on 07/28/2009 7:19:59 AM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: lentulusgracchus
He soon found himself talking to none other than Harry Dexter White,

Well, how about that. Interesting story!

Evans' contention is that much of our China policy was also undermined by the Communists in the State Dept.

32 posted on 07/28/2009 8:21:48 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius
how complicit the US government under Roosevelt and then Truman was in covering up the communists within, blocking investigations, etc. The State Department was particularly riddled with them

Heck, Whitaker Chambers voluntarily gave of the names of 24 communists in government (14 of whom would later be CONFIRMED to have been conducting espionage for the Soviets) in 1939.

1939!!!

And nobody did a damn thing about it, not even the most cursory investigations, until YEARS after World War II.

Due to Chambers, Bentley and several other communists spies who turned "traitor" (to the U.S.S.R.) after the Nazi-Soviet pact and other atrocities, the Russians actually sidelined a number of their American spies. But, after 5 or 6 years, when it became clear the Americans were doing next to nothing on counterespionage, the (doubtless bemused) Soviets said, "what the heck," and began reactivating their American spies and their networks.

Let that sink in. The Soviets KNEW that many of these spies had almost certainly been named, and their networks and the leaders of those networks, and the structure of those networks revealed, but reactivated them anyway. That's how anemic the American response to Soviet espionage was.

Yeah, maybe some anticommunists went a bit overboard at times during the 50's, but how the hell can you blame them!!! This kind of history fully called for and justified an extreme, if not panicked, reaction.

Sometimes I wonder how the hell we ever won the cold war.

33 posted on 07/28/2009 6:29:13 PM PDT by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

yep and as Levin points out in his book, socialists were in Hollywood


34 posted on 07/28/2009 6:30:27 PM PDT by wardaddy (ASAP, as southern as possible.......Sarah Palin, i love you)
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