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Jury in favor of hospital that deported immigrant
AP via SFGate ^ | 7/27/9 | LAURA WIDES-MUNOZ, AP Hispanic Affairs Writer

Posted on 07/27/2009 7:54:27 AM PDT by SmithL

Stuart, Fla. (AP) --

A South Florida hospital that quietly chartered a plane and sent a seriously brain injured illegal immigrant back to Guatemala over the objections of his family and legal guardian did not act unreasonably, a jury ruled Monday.

Health care and immigration experts across the country have closely watched the court case in the sleepy coastal town of Stuart. They say it underscores the dilemma facing hospitals with patients who require long-term care, are unable to pay and don't qualify for federal or state aid because of their immigration status.

Deputy Court Clerk Carol Harper said the unanimous 6-member jury found in favor of the hospital.

Jack Hill, an attorney for the legal guardian of 37-year-old Luis Jimenez, would not immediately comment on the verdict.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: illegal; illegalalien

1 posted on 07/27/2009 7:54:27 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Some common sense for the day.


2 posted on 07/27/2009 7:56:57 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: SmithL

Glad to hear it.


3 posted on 07/27/2009 7:57:49 AM PDT by synbad600
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To: SmithL

Hooray!!!


4 posted on 07/27/2009 7:58:23 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SmithL

Give that jury a gold star for common sense! This was one of the nuttiest cases I have ever seen.


5 posted on 07/27/2009 7:58:49 AM PDT by livius
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To: SmithL

One chartered plane to Guatemala probably saved the hospital like...

.... one day’s admission.


6 posted on 07/27/2009 8:00:21 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: SmithL

These are the people the Imposter-in-Chief wants to help at the expense of American citizens who have paid for the system.


7 posted on 07/27/2009 8:01:10 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: SmithL

Good news for America.


8 posted on 07/27/2009 8:01:14 AM PDT by Dacula (Evil succeeds when good men do nothing. Lets do something.)
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To: SmithL

Good news.


9 posted on 07/27/2009 8:01:20 AM PDT by Dacula (Evil succeeds when good men do nothing. Lets do something.)
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To: SmithL
They got it right.Out-bleepin’-standing!
10 posted on 07/27/2009 8:02:37 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: SmithL; bcsco

Good on them.


11 posted on 07/27/2009 8:03:51 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

That’s the first thing I thought of.

We need more of that.


12 posted on 07/27/2009 8:04:36 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: SmithL

I agree with the decision, but I have to wonder, where the hell is that drunk that put that poor guy in that condition? Illegal or not, nobody deserves what happened to him. I hope that he gets what he needs in Guatemala, it’s really sad.


13 posted on 07/27/2009 8:04:53 AM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: SmithL
Jack Hill, an attorney for the legal guardian of 37-year-old Luis Jimenez, would not immediately comment on the verdict.

Hey,Jack....you were,no doubt,working on the taxpayers' dime so you did just fine for yourself.Stinks to hear about your client though.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

14 posted on 07/27/2009 8:05:24 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: SmithL
Of course, if the communists have their way and pass the Health Care Reform garbage, these illegal aliens will then be allowed to stay in situations such as this and the good old American Taxpayer will be forced to foot the bill.

Still, I can't shake this premonition that eventually our so-called representatives will enjoy the same fate as the Ceausescu's.

15 posted on 07/27/2009 8:05:54 AM PDT by Pox
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To: SmithL

The simplest way to drop the ER financial hemorrhage at your local hospital might well be to park an INS van near the entrance...


16 posted on 07/27/2009 8:06:44 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 188 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: SmithL

THAT’s good news!!!


17 posted on 07/27/2009 8:07:46 AM PDT by ScottinVA
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To: SmithL

Stories like this give me some hope for America.


18 posted on 07/27/2009 8:13:15 AM PDT by Poundstone
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To: SaintDismas
..where the hell is that drunk that put that poor guy in that condition? Illegal or not, nobody deserves what happened to him.

Agreed....conditionally.Read on for details.

I hope that he gets what he needs in Guatemala, it’s really sad.

IMO,it depends on the details of the incident (which I haven't heard).If the comatose guy was,in fact,a truly innocent victim (in the wrong place at the wrong time) then I agree that he should get all the care he needs in his homeland.But if he played any kind of substantial role in his own injuries (he provoked the incident,for example) then I'd argue that he's already gotten what he had coming to him.That may sound cruel but,IMO,actions have consequences...for legal *and* illegal residents of this country alike.

19 posted on 07/27/2009 8:14:21 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: SmithL

It is important that all of these people be given an opportunity (nudge) to return to those superior health care systems from which they came. Then the 0ne can stop apologising and screwing with ours.

This Obamacare legislation is nothing more than a shot at dictatorship for a small cadre of Marxist Elitists. Your Congress Critter needs to know that you are on to their game.


20 posted on 07/27/2009 8:15:25 AM PDT by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: SmithL
Gaspar eventually won his appeal, with the court ruling a state judge doesn't have the power to decide immigration cases. By then, it was too late. Jimenez had been released from the Guatemalan hospital and was living with his 73-year-old mother in a one-room home in the mountainous state of Huehuetenango — a steep hike from the village center and 12 hours from the Guatemalan capital

Isn't that special. The Guatemalan hospital sure didn't have a problem discharging him.

21 posted on 07/27/2009 8:16:31 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (ABC-AP-MSNBC-All Obama, All the time.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Maybe so, but you would have to agree with me when I say that his poor moma sure doesn’t deserve any of this. She probably think the day she dies, her son will die.

I guess I’m on a rant because I have no sympathy whatsoever with drunks who “accidentally” kill someone else. I can’t visualize this “victim” agitating someone to purposely hit him, but I don’t know the whole story, you’re right. I just wish that these people who drive drunk get no leniency whatsoever. None. There are no second chances for their victims who are killed or left to be tended like a vegatable garden after the “accident”.


22 posted on 07/27/2009 8:23:06 AM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: null and void

LOL... That’s actually a pretty good idea.


23 posted on 07/27/2009 8:28:02 AM PDT by Ronin (It will be helpful if Geithner can show us some arithmetic.)
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To: SmithL

Send them all back. Taxpayers are tired of paying for illegal aliens endless freebies.


24 posted on 07/27/2009 8:29:01 AM PDT by Frantzie (Obama DeathCare - Sending Seniors to the Death Camps. Obama = Racist Dope)
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To: SaintDismas
It sounds like you more of the details of the initial incident than do I.As for his mother...yes,if he was an innocent victim (and I don't have the foggiest idea if he is or isn't) then you'd certainly feel bad for her as well as him.But if he wasn't "innocent" then I say that it was up to him to consider how his mother might feel if he were ever to become chronically comatose.

"Responsibility"....that's what's important to me.

But what I *do* know is that regardless of his level of "guilt" or "innocence" in this case neither the taxpayers of this country nor any given health care facility in this country have a moral obligation to provide him with a single minute's worth of care.

25 posted on 07/27/2009 8:32:09 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: SaintDismas
It sounds like you more=It sounds like you know more
26 posted on 07/27/2009 8:33:07 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: Gay State Conservative
(in the wrong place at the wrong time)

(in the wrong place country at the wrong time)

27 posted on 07/27/2009 8:35:53 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (See www.buyingapuppy.com for News on Dogs and Puppies)
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To: Gay State Conservative
But what I *do* know is that regardless of his level of "guilt" or "innocence" in this case neither the taxpayers of this country nor any given health care facility in this country have a moral obligation to provide him with a single minute's worth of care.

It seems that the Dims want to build a system for every exception, no matter what it does for the normal cases. The GOP should be building a system for normal cases and let the exceptions be handled as exceptions.

That is one of the reasons that I BARF when politicians (of either party) or the media make a big deal out of exceptional cases. Speeches or Town Hall meetings that highlight tragic cases are not indicative of how every case needs to be dealt with.

28 posted on 07/27/2009 8:40:52 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (See www.buyingapuppy.com for News on Dogs and Puppies)
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To: Onelifetogive
(in the wrong place at the wrong time)..(in the wrong place country at the wrong time)

It's two separate issues we're discussing.1)To what degree,if any,did the comatose guy "have it coming"? and 2)Is he morally entitled to free care on the taxpayers' dime or at the expense of a particular hospital/nursing home?

29 posted on 07/27/2009 8:42:20 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: SmithL

Every once in a while, honest people sit on juries and good news makes it’s way onto the web. Don’t expect this to receive much coverage though.


30 posted on 07/27/2009 8:43:30 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Jimenez should consider himself lucky he wasn't a white female and a few years older. Then the State of Florida could have sentenced him to slow death by starvation.
31 posted on 07/27/2009 8:49:19 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I’m not arguing that point, I agree with you 100%. It’s the softie in me that gets upset when anybody over 70 is saddled with a burden like that son of hers. Hey, I get your point, his decisions brought him to where he is today, if he hadn’t broken our laws to come here illegally, he’d be up and walking around, poor for sure, just a heck of a lot healthier.

It’s just a sad situation for him moma is all I’m saying, innocent or guilty. He, on the other hand, is paying dearly for his crimes, whatever they are. Let’s pray for him, shall we? He’s gone, and not our problem anymore. Plus, his attorney has inadverdantly given us a gift.


32 posted on 07/27/2009 8:58:58 AM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: SmithL

Hey, now there’s the makings of some new jobs! Call it Adios Air and offer one-way only fares to all hospitals. Way cheaper on the hospital and taxpayer alike.


33 posted on 07/27/2009 9:05:50 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: SmithL

I have compassion for the man who needed treatment. But for the grace of God go I. I thank God every day that I won life’s lottery by being born in this great country. In my own life, I do what I can to help people.

However, our compassion is destroying this country. We have seen what it has done in California. We have tried to be so compassionate that the entire system is on the verge of collapse, and we will be able to help no one.


34 posted on 07/27/2009 9:06:04 AM PDT by doug from upland (10 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: SmithL

Had this been decided any other way, U.S. taxpayers would have been bankrupted. All a person in this condition would have to do would be to get someone to get him over our border. Then we would be responsible for them. We cannot afford to provide health care for the entire world.


35 posted on 07/27/2009 9:10:38 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: SmithL

Don’t think that Hospitals are not going to do this more often. There are a tons of these type case around.


36 posted on 07/27/2009 9:32:41 AM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: SmithL

Who paid for the chartered plane?


37 posted on 07/27/2009 9:47:04 AM PDT by Jack Wilson
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To: SmithL
Refreshing.

The only benefits an illegal alien should receive is enough food and treatment to get tham back home.

38 posted on 07/27/2009 9:48:55 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport and school records.)
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To: SmithL

Kudos to this jury....

And, it should send a message to every pro-illegal alien politician...esp RINOs....that Americans are tired of illegal alienism.

Yes, it is sad what happened to this man....but does not take away the fact that he broke the law....and his law-breaking may have took away health care or quality of care from a US citizen....possibly someone’s child.


39 posted on 07/27/2009 11:55:52 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Know the difference between "conservative" and "republican")
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