Conyers Sees No Point in Members Reading 1,000-Page Health Care Bill--Unless They Have.....

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[Sub-Driver]

Conyers Sees No Point in Members Reading 1,000-Page Health Care Bill--Unless They Have 2 Lawyers to Interpret It for Them Monday, July 27, 2009 By Nicholas Ballasy, Video Reporter

(CNSNews.com) - During his speech at a National Press Club luncheon, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, Democratic Congressman John Conyers (D-Mich.), questioned the point of lawmakers reading the health care bill.

“I love these members, they get up and say, ‘Read the bill,’” said Conyers.

“What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?”

[Sub-Driver]

He said it............

[aimhigh]

Reminds me of those famous last words - You can trust us . .

[golfisnr1]

Its obvious a-hole take months to read and analyze the Bill before the vote.

[EagleUSA]

Conyers is a stupid as he is criminal.

[bandleader]

This is PRECISELY why”TERM LIMITS”are vital to the survival of this republic!

[VRWCmember]

Well, I see no point in most of those members remaining in Congress but their constituents keep sending them back to DC.

[armymarinedad]

How does a politician say your screwed?

Trust me!

[Hoosier-Daddy]

It is malfeasance and a breach of fiduciary duty to not read the bill.

[driftdiver]

Makes sense as long as they vote NO. Instead they are voting how the payoff instructions tell them too

[PhiKapMom]

So now even Conyers is saying the bill is filled with so much garbage only a lawyer could interpret. How dumb is that? Pelosi thought she could ran this through before people started finding out what was in the bill.

[Froggie]

These idiots are guilty of legislative malpractice when they openly admit they don’t read and therefore don’t know what it is they are voting for! This is akin to a surgeon operating on your heart without looking at the x-ray or angiogram! Get with it people — vote these idiots out of office!!!!!
Just perhaps they shouldn’t be passing legislation even they don’t understand - just a thought!

[Jeff Head]

Here is a link to the full House Democrat Health Care Plan in PDF. In Section 1233 E & F, pages 426-433, you find the part about mandatory end-of-life counseling for anyone over 65 years of age. Section 152 Page 50: All healthcare services will be provided without regard to "personal characteristcs" which is not defined within the document but is understood to include immigration status.

A lot more provisions now being documented at that site.

HOUSE DEMOCRAT HEALTH CARE PLAN - http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Also, here's a large image of the Democratic (Obama) Health Plan chart-another Obama empty promise. This is the one the House democrats are censuring. Email these links or the image to everyone you know.

Decmocrat (Obama) Health Plan
http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Obama and all those pushing his radical agenda are abject marxist ideologues. Their "fundamental; change" is nothing more than a destruction of the American free market and fundamental republican principle.

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[jagusafr]

“What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?”

“Jeez, you expect us to READ this stuff? What the hell’s wrong with you?”

Wow...just wow...he actually admitted that it’s too much trouble to know what he’s voting on. My heart breaks for our nation.

Colonel, USAFR

[theDentist]

I think it should be read simply because that husband of a corrupt politician says it shouldn’t.

[Rennes Templar]

How about iving them two weweks to read it so attorneys can break it down and present it to congress and the American people for an informed decision, you arrogant scumbag masquerading as a representative of the people.

[Texas resident]

“He said it” So did steny hower over in the house. He was laughing about reading the bill.

[driftdiver]

Mandatory term limits for all

[ScottinVA]

"What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?” Uh... I'll go way out on a limb and suggest the following:

THEN DON'T PASS IT!!!

[maggief]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfOdKv79cJ0

Glenn Beck Clips 07-17-09 Seg 5 Why Won’t Rep. Conyers Investigate ACORN?

[RicocheT]

Our idiots in Congress who pass bills without reading or understanding are even more dangerous than a M.D. operating on you with the lights out. The M.D. only might hurt you while the congress critters hurt you, your family, your future kids & grandchildren and the whole country. The nonsense of Pelosi Democrats amounts to criminal intent and we should call them on it. Waiting to vote them out in 2010 could be too late due to the damage they are doing to us.

[wbones8765]

I guess they have forgotten the meaning of a representative form of government. That they are in fact supposed to read these bills, understand them, and vote in the best interest of their constituency. No member of congress is supposed to vote how they feel, but how the people back home feel.
Getting elected is not an endorsement of the persons judgement. It is saying that they will vote the way the people want. That is not always along party lines!!! Before any vote they should have to go home, and speak with the people to get their take on these bills!!!!

[WayneS]

Conyers Sees No Point in Members Reading 1,000-Page Health Care Bill--Unless They Have 2 Lawyers to Interpret It for Them

But he's going to vote for it anyway.

What an incredibly elitist and stupid thing to say. That ONE statement should tell every potential voter EVERYTHING they need need to know about this man in order to decide NOT to vote for his re-election.

...In fact, I'm just going to stand over here in this corner holding my breath and waiting for the voters of Michigan to unseat him...

...so, would one of you please call the paramedics for me? I have a feeling I'm going to need them... ;^)

[PLD]

Vote this buffoon out of office..wasn’t that what these idiots were sent to Washington to do read everything before you sign it..My lawyer tells me read it before you sign anything and let me read it ..I did know to read everything I put my name on..Now you idiots in Washington don’t try to pass another bill until it is read and explained to the American people truthfully..

Conyers and his wife are criminals she is now in jail where he should be..

[nikos1121]

But we can go ahead and vote on it anyway...

All the more reason to post bills online for all of us to read before hand...

“Hey...Congressman...Let us the read the bill for you...”

Everyday, there’s something that makes me want to scream about our elected officials.

If people aren’t for term limits after what we’ve watched these past few years, then I think it’s hopeless.

[SeattleBruce]

Conyers is a stupid as he is criminal.
++++++++++++++++

Unbelievable. Yet, am I surprised?

[blam]

This is the representation you get when people who don’t read, write or pay taxes are allowed to vote. These dumb SOB’s are an embarrassment to our country.

[Coyote Choir]

Isn’t this statement a frank and honest admission that Congress abdicated its lawmaking responsibilities long ago and that the public’s image of how the system in Washington works is...quaint? This is a guy who dropped an Acorn probe, coincidentally as his wife’s lawyers began the process negotiating on criminal charges on payoffs, isn’t it? He is no doubt quite used to rich ironies.

[2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten]

Great point - I could vote NO without reading a single line. Unless there was a voting option called “Hell NO” - which would be even better.

[blam]

Bribery Indictment For Rep. Conyers’ Councilwoman Wife

[Oldpuppymax]

So tell me then Johnny, what good is it being a congressman, if you don’t really know what you’re doing, what you’re voting for, what you’re signing and how it will actually work? Why don’t you resign? You are clearly not getting anything accomplished!

[US Navy Vet]

Conyers is representing is constituants VERY well. Most of them cannot read either.

[pieceofthepuzzle]

We would be better off picking people randomly out of line at the supermarket to be congressman than we are with our current system. This is no longer the land of the free.

[Hoosier-Daddy]

I see no point in paying this poseur to not do his job.

[SMARTY]

If our elected representatives are not reading this piece of proposed legislation... then you know who hard they have been working on all the OTHER stuff they passed into law, up to now.

[SERKIT]

A “gaffe” is when a politician accidentally stumbles upon the truth. Yes, it IS ridiculous to plop a 1,000+ page bill on the table and demand passage without reading it, or when the bill’s manager plops a 300+ page amendment on it hours before passage.

[sasquatch]

...he returned to Michigan where he earned both his Bachelor of Arts (1957) and Juris Doctor (1958) degrees at Wayne State University...

So he only needs one more lawyer...

[mysterio]

Every bill should be read fully by all who vote for or against it. The fact that this is not the status quo is frightening.

[tsmith130]

Listen to Bambi in 2004, just after he was elected to the US Senate. He's being interviewed by Randi Rhodes. (I know...gag) Specifically listen at about the 40 second mark.

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOnYnIDX0Eg)

[reagan_fanatic]

Ignorance is bliss, eh, Conyers?

[kromike]

Okay, a-hole. TWO can play at that ‘game’. When your thuggish DeathCare fails to herd me into the Govt Death-Option and I refuse to pay that annual “protection fee”, I’ll just say, “Why bother?”

[Syncro]

“What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?”

He almost said it correctly:

What good is reading proposing the bill if it’s [over] a thousand pages and you don’t have two days take the time to read it and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill

We need to clean house...and senate.

If two lawyers are needed to parse the bill for them, how did they pass law school? They are mostly lawyers, aren't they?

Is this a form of the old maxim, If you aren't smart enough to get a job after graduating from college, you teach?

Congress critters aren't smart enough to hang out a shingle, so they run for office.

[dennisw]

Conyers is senile and in outer space. He could not read it if his life depended on it

[RummyChick]

WOW..I wish his statement would get a lot of play.

We don’t know what’s in it, we don’t know how bad it will screw you over, we don’t know what it will do to our country, ...but oh yeah..it is the best thing for you.

[penelopesire]

Thanks Michigan for sending your village idiot to Washington where he can not only screw up your state..but the whole country!

Good grief...what a joke.

[bert]

He is correct because it is not readable and there can be no understanding. The meaning must be defined in courts.

There is only one recourse.....don’t vote in favor. It has to be bad.

[pgkdan]

“What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?”

What an arrogant imbecile!!! Hey Conyers, you old fool, maybe you democrats are too stupid to know what you're doing but we're not. We demand time to study each bill before it's voted on!

[yorkie01]

It's long overdue for us to return power to the states and get rid of this cancerous corrupt central government. They've exceeded their enumerated powers governing and it's led to too much centralized massive fraud and corruption. Three months every other year in Washington for our central government and restoration of power to the states is needed. Conyers comments are contemptuously arrogant.

[SunkenCiv]

"I love these members, they get up and say, 'Read the bill,'" said Conyers. "What good is reading the bill if it's a thousand pages and you don't have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?"

I love these members, they remain sitting on their fat useless asses and say, 'I won't read the bill, and I will vote for it without reading it.'

[pgkdan]

bump.

[willgolfforfood]

He went through law school in ONE YEAR? Talk about a fast track career!!

Thanks, Wayne State.