Posted on 07/26/2009 7:12:42 AM PDT by Kaslin
NEW WATERFORD, Ohio If Ohio is the nation's political weather vane (and you can make a good case that it is), then a two-election trend toward Democrats may be over.
The problems for Ohio are all created in Washington, says Bill Watkins, owner of The Original Marios pizza shop on East Main Street here. Bailouts, stimulus money, cap-and-trade have only hurt our economy, not enhanced it.
Earlier this month, President Obama and his policies took a hit in the Buckeye State. A Quinnipiac University poll showed the presidents job-approval rating dropped from 62 percent to 49 percent, and Ohio's unemployment rate hit 11.1 percent, higher than the national average of 9.5 percent.
A couple of years ago, Ohio unquestionably was trending Democrat, according to Republican pollster Neil Newhouse. That was apparent, he said, in the composition of the 2008 electorate and in polling completed even early this year.
Things have changed. Ohio's recession now seems to be owned by Gov. Ted Strickland, a Democrat, whose handling of the states budget did little to instill confidence in voters that he has a plan to get the state back on track.
Incumbents rarely get more popular when conditions worsen, whatever their party, says political scientist Bert Rockman.
If the slide continues over the next two to three public-opinion surveys, then Democrats and the Obama administration have lots of reason to worry.
Sometimes a cross-sectional survey produces smoke without fire, merely reflecting some momentary condition or opposition rhetoric, cautions Rockman.
From the early 1990s to 2006, Ohio trended Republican; the GOP controlled the states legislative, executive and judicial branches, as well as both U.S. Senate seats and a majority Ohios congressional delegation.
That all began to change after the 2002 election, said University of Miami (Ohio) political science professor Christopher Kelly: In 2006, the Democrats struck back, winning the governors seat and one house of the legislature, as well as a (U.S.) Senate seat. They further solidified control in 2008, with more House gains.
Things have looked great for Democrats until recently, said Kelly. Gov. Strickland, who had been popular, has seen his poll numbers fall as he has failed to get a budget that addresses the deficit that Ohio currently carries.
Stricklands approval rating took an 11-point dive last month, following state budget deliberations. Recent polls show his 2010 Republican challenger, former U.S. Rep. John Kasich, within striking distance and well within the margin of error.
And it gets uglier: A nasty tone has been set in the Democrats primary race for an open U.S. Senate seat, between Lt. Gov. Lee Fisher and Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner.
Former Bush budget director and Republican Senate hopeful Rob Portman crushed Fisher and Brunner combined in last quarters fundraising totals.
Kelly is not sure if Ohio voters are in the mood for a return to Republican control: While Strickland's opinion numbers have fallen, any improvement in the economic forecast, I think, should turn around (his) recent misfortune.
Part of the Ohio problem for Democrats is that Obama took a page from FDR rather than from JFK: Strike while the iron is hot and while a witchs brew of trouble boils in the national cauldron.
Whether his administration has done the right things, too little, or too much about the nations recession is beginning to hit home in this rust-belt state.
Then there is cap-and-trade, a lousy bill for coal-producing Ohio, but Washingtons attitude was that it is better than nothing.
That brings us to health care, or death by a thousand cuts. It's got moving parts all over the place. Everybody agrees we need universal access, reductions in cost, maintenance of quality- and, oh yes, taxes to pay for it.
The problem is that it's a pipe dream; something has to give. We have high-quality medical care for people with access to high-value insurance; we have limited access to the system, and we have a high-cost system. How do we get from here to there?
Its too much, too soon and too fast, said pizza-man Watkins while filling orders at his shop.
Acutely aware of his Buckeye problem, Obama spent the day after his health care press conference last week in the affluent Cleveland suburb of Shaker Heights, talking about health care.
We have it all here, says Rep. Charlie Wilson, D-Bridgeport: Ohio represents a wonderful cross-section of the country that seems to have the ability to walk the line between liberal and conservative.
Wilsons district split in 2008, going for him and for Republican presidential candidate John McCain more proof of a deeply divided state.
I quit watching the state run media - did they show the protestors at Shaker Heights or did anyone else at least hear the soundbites of them?
Too bad it’s a choice between the D party and the RINO-D-lite party.
>The problems for Ohio are all created in Washington, says Bill Watkins, owner of The Original Marios pizza shop on East Main Street here. Bailouts, stimulus money, cap-and-trade have only hurt our economy, not enhanced it.<
gosh, i love it when obama voters get religion.
I quit watching back in the early 80s. Don't miss it at all -- after all, even back then it was nothing more than mindless entertainment and not anything like real news.
Oh for heaven sake, I have stopped to watch them years ago
This is the kind of guy who should serve a couple of terms in congress. He's obviously smarter than 90% of the critters there!
So what party do you suggest?
Well, democrats in Ohio told voters that things were bad and horrible. Now the situation is REALLY bad and horrible and the democrats own it. That state deserves to be a GOP state again.
Bami meets Waterloo in Waterford .
This is one of the great lies the press keeps spewing. It gives the impression that the poor are treated differently at a hospital than the rich and that's simply not true. Anyone treated in a hospital or a doctor's for that matter, will get the same high quality health care.
I had a fundraising call from the NJ Republicans yesterday. As soon as he ID'd himself I told him that until the Republican party stopped acting like Democrat Lite, my wallet is closed to them.
Unfortunately, a third party would almost guarantee another RAT win...
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Have several friends in both parties in Ohio. They are hopping mad.

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Geithner, Obama, Biden, Summers and Rahm all agree that the recession is over and the recovery is ON like Donkey Kong.
I bet the 18% unemployed in Michigan and the probably 12% unemployed in Ohio are very happy to hear the news. The GOP should be saving those sound bites for their TV ads next year.
Not to worry. The MSM will convince the voters by 2010 that everything is better.
Ya think?
I quit watching any media, including Fox. The Left never has anyone on who is conservative. Fox has both liberals and conservatives and when they have someone like that wild-eyed, machine gun-talking, spittle-flying lunatic “Doctor” Lamont Hill, I cannot stand it and just turn-off the TV.
NO the problems in Washington were created in Ohio and Pennsylvania.
It appears that anyone at the top draws the ire of the public. Too bad it’s not actually based on priciples.
Ohio gets what it deserves.
The problems for Ohio are all created in Washington,
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Ya think?
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You know, part of the problems in Ohio are created by some apathetic Ohioans who just vote for the other guy while blaming the current administration (local, state, national) without doing any homework. I’ll never forget the time someone whispered to me to vote for Obama because Bush & Cheney had raised the gasoline prices just to get retirement money. It’s hard to get past that.
Well done.
Some people are SO Small Thinkers that it makes me fear for my country.
A recent survey showed that more than 50% of college graduates were leaving the state for opportunities elsewhere. My own opinion is that “As Ohio goes, so does the nation” reflected a time when Ohio was more prosperous and had a different demographic.
If you mean the people of Ohio and Pennsylvania created the problems, you're wrong. Washington created the problems, only the people ignored them.
Oh yeah, green shoots and other nonsense like that.
Elections have consequenses and Ohio is no exception.
I don’t have a suggestion.
As the national unemployment rate plummets to 25% this harsh winter Glorious and Dear Leader has unveiled a new plan to fix everything. He will pay a million people in the most distressed districts to dance.
“Dancing can save this economy! With dancing comes recovery” the President said in a short statement using a TelePrompTer.
“We are going into the 3rd year of recovery and it is important that we spend this $35 billion this year. I mean the Chinese were gracious enough to lend it to us in exchange for several islands and atolls in the Pacific” Rahm Emmanuel said as he danced.
You missed his point.
Then why do you assume that everyone in the Republican party in a RINO? We have to vote the RINOs out but support those who have the interest of the people and the country.
Easy to miss, I guess. What is it?
I think his point is that Ohio elected the people who went to DC and caused the problems in Ohio.
If you think the RINO party is the answer to this country regaining freedom for it's inhabitants, you are sadly mistaken. I don't know about sionnsar but I want the republicans to become conservative, failing that I want a third party, split the vote or not.
People like you who think we should cling to the party of stupid so we can be subjected to the same old BS with different politicians have ruined the republican party. Look at McCain, he is backing all of Bozo's plans. Do you really think he would be a better President, or would he be just a little slower on ruining us?
That is the sum total of the difference in today's parties. The dimwits just screw us faster than the Stupids(GOP).
I grew up in Cincinnati in the 50’s and 60’s....it was a FABULOUS city back then.
Our party is the RINO party due to the fact that most of the leaders are RINOs(Steele for instance), the evidence is too strong to miss. We either have to clean out the RINOs or start a new party, the choice is clear.
Voting for the likes of McCain, Romney, Huckabee or Rudy will solve nothing and only continue the slide into communism just at a slower pace.
In fact none of those RINOs will ever win a Presidential election, if we run one of them in 2012, we lose.
Ignoring the fact that RINOs are running the republican party and that we are now dimwit lite is simply ignorant, for want of a better word.
18% in Michigan? My lord! How is that Hopey-Changey workin for them?
I don't know if this went out on Fox Radio News generally.
I completely understand your humor.
Good post....
The GOP keeps getting RINOs because there are still too many who would rather vote for a liberal RINO so that [sic] a Dem does not get a seat or office....instead of voting for a conservative independent.
The ones who whine “but it splits the vote” regarding voting independent....they are the ones who have put the current situation as is.
If enough conservatives start voting “conservative” instead of republican...there would be a lot more conservatives in the GOP
Scary thought.
Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.
Oh, dear...

Nice. Listening to their album on Rhapsody now.
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