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Don’t Get Caught in Census Bureau Cons
The Better Business Bureau ^ | June 16, 2009

Posted on 07/24/2009 7:32:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Most people know not to give out personal information to unsolicited phone callers or visitors. However, the Census process is an exception to the rule, because representatives do collect information by visiting households. Unfortunately, people may also be contacted by scammers who are using this as an opportunity to impersonate Census workers in order to gain access to sensitive financial information such as Social Security, bank account or credit card numbers.

Although law enforcement in several states have issued warnings that scammers are posing as Census Bureau representatives, your BBB encourages caution. The big question is - how do you tell the difference between a U.S. Census worker and a con artist? Your BBB offers the following advice:

* If a U.S. Census worker knocks on your door, they will have a badge, a handheld device, a Census Bureau canvas bag and a confidentiality notice. Ask to see their identification and their badge before answering their questions. Remember, you should never invite anyone you don’t know into your home.

* Census workers are currently only knocking on doors to verify address information. Do not give your Social Security number, credit card or banking information to anyone, even if they claim they need it for the U.S. Census. While the Census Bureau might ask for basic financial information, such as salary range, it will not ask for Social Security, bank account or credit card numbers nor will employees solicit donations.

* Eventually, Census workers may contact you by telephone, mail or in person at home. They will not contact you by e-mail, so be on the look out for e-mail scams impersonating the Census. Never click on a link or open any attachments in an e-mail that are supposedly from the U.S. Census Bureau.

The Census data will be used to allocate more than $300 billion in federal funds every year, as well as determine a state’s number of Congressional representatives. Households are actually required by law to respond to the Census Bureau’s request for information. For more information, go to www.bbb.org


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: acorn; blackpanthers; census; congress; identitytheft; laraza; nativeamerican; obama; porky; rahmemanuel
"Three adults live here, have a nice day." [SLAM!]
1 posted on 07/24/2009 7:32:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"JUST DAMN! You made it out here. BTW, What are you going to do about getting back across that pasture now that I've shot the bull in the @$$ with a bb gun?"

/johnny

2 posted on 07/24/2009 7:39:08 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can I ask if they belong to ACORN?


3 posted on 07/24/2009 7:40:50 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Liberty...freedom from government. Tyranny...no freedom from government)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Isn’t ACORN doing the census? If so, read this:

http://republicans.oversight.house.gov/News/PRArticle.aspx?NewsID=616


4 posted on 07/24/2009 7:41:57 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
While the Census Bureau might ask for basic financial information, such as salary range, it will not ask for Social Security, bank account or credit card numbers nor will employees solicit donations.

They can ask all they want. I'll tell them only how many are here. No financial information, or anything else. It's a count.

5 posted on 07/24/2009 7:43:41 PM PDT by ducdriver (judica me, Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta. (Ps. 42))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They can just bypass my house and save the postage too.


6 posted on 07/24/2009 7:46:36 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm busy, talk to my Rottweiler.
7 posted on 07/24/2009 7:49:16 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why they are allowed to collect GPS information is beyond me; it's illegal.
8 posted on 07/24/2009 7:50:13 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (They were the Slave Party then; they are the Slave Party now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Do not give your Social Security number, credit card or banking information to anyone, even if they claim they need it for the U.S. Census.

I have a service that guarantee's that I will receive up to a million dollars if my info is abused.

I don't worry...../s

9 posted on 07/24/2009 7:52:34 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

RIGHT!! SAME ANSWER ON PAPER!

ONLY GIVE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD.


10 posted on 07/24/2009 7:52:56 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA

Can we “enhance” the number of white folks in the house???


11 posted on 07/24/2009 7:55:51 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Abort the Obama Presidency, now!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Even if it is a census worker, it could be a criminal from ACORN. Who do you trust at that point?
12 posted on 07/24/2009 8:13:28 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Imagining a world without DemocRats.)
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To: goodnesswins

Don’t give any racial information. Just tell them how many people live there.


13 posted on 07/24/2009 8:19:47 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Carry_Okie

If they come in my yard with one of those GPS units, I am going to show them the business end of my boot.


14 posted on 07/24/2009 8:26:02 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Obamacare: all the efficiency of the DMV and all the compassion of the IRS.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

LOL!


15 posted on 07/24/2009 8:26:24 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: SUSSA

UH....but....they’ll be able to look at me and make a “judgement.” Now, if it’s on paper, yes, I understand.


16 posted on 07/24/2009 8:27:09 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Abort the Obama Presidency, now!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t answer my phone unless it’s someone I want to talk to , and that does not include ACORN.


17 posted on 07/24/2009 8:28:35 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: SUSSA

I will give them my race: Human. Or even better, I am a mix of Pacific islander/Polish/South African Boer. I love to screw with those who ask me for my race.


18 posted on 07/24/2009 8:34:24 PM PDT by Texas resident ( Boys and Girls, it's us against them.)
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To: Texas resident

LOL


19 posted on 07/24/2009 8:41:53 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA

Why would they even need racial identification? Does my county get more income if I claim to be a minority?


20 posted on 07/24/2009 8:47:01 PM PDT by coloradomomba (BO stinks!)
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To: GVnana
It's actually not that funny. ;) I'm in the middle of building a log cabin at the edge of a pasture that we've still got the bulls in. My transit and a slash pile got thrashed last night. I'm lucky my tent is still standing.

Long horn bulls kept away from the cows are fairly... um... insane. I whacked one across the nose with a clip-board while dancing around some trees that needed the lower branches removed. The branches got removed. Next time I'll just use a chain saw to remove the branches. That was too much like exercise.

God help the census burro that tries to walk out to the spot.

/johnny

21 posted on 07/24/2009 8:47:14 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need to post the questionnaire people wrote up in 2000 to give to the census takers. It was quite extensive.


22 posted on 07/24/2009 8:50:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I,m sure that the number and types of guns you own is critical information.(/sarc)


23 posted on 07/24/2009 8:56:55 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: coloradomomba
They use it to gerrymander congressional districts to assure some minorities win elections they can’t win on merit.
24 posted on 07/24/2009 9:36:19 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Texas resident

Just tell them you are a Native American.

Which you are.


25 posted on 07/24/2009 9:38:56 PM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

They took the numbers for our house from 100yds away, which is close enough to be a problem.


26 posted on 07/24/2009 10:21:30 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (They were the Slave Party then; they are the Slave Party now.)
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To: Major Matt Mason

well, I can tell you that no Aorn members were involved in the census in section 8 here in Missouri.


27 posted on 07/24/2009 10:33:41 PM PDT by chae (I am karmic retribution)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Odds are it’s already been done. Missouri finished the GPS adress canvassing back in May.


28 posted on 07/24/2009 10:34:35 PM PDT by chae (I am karmic retribution)
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To: Carry_Okie

But that was what they wee told to do. During the Address canvassing part anyway. f the house is clearly marked with a house number, they mark down the address, and input it in to the HHC. During the address canvassing phase, all they are doing is verifying addresses, nothing else. As long as we were within 150 ft, the map spot is considered correct.


29 posted on 07/24/2009 10:42:08 PM PDT by chae (I am karmic retribution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"* If a U.S. Census worker knocks on your door, they will have a badge, a handheld device, a Census Bureau canvas bag and a confidentiality notice. Ask to see their identification and their badge before answering their questions. Remember, you should never invite anyone you don’t know into your home."

I was a censustaker in 2006. This info was correct then. I only went to addresses that did not respond to the mailout. If you don't want to answer, then don't. If you answer minimal questions ( names, sex, birthdates and relationship to responder,) you probably won't be bothered again. If you refuse to answer anything, they will keep returning several times. I don't believe that anyone has ever been prosecuted for refusing to answer.

30 posted on 07/24/2009 10:45:31 PM PDT by matthew fuller (FUBHO)
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To: chae
Show me where in the Constitution it authorizes the Federal government to track the location of my house. Seems to me all it authorizes is a count of how many live in each house.
31 posted on 07/24/2009 10:57:41 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (They were the Slave Party then; they are the Slave Party now.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I’m not saying that the governement should, but those were the rules.
But I believe that this part of the census is already done in most if not all states. It’s already over and done with by now.


32 posted on 07/24/2009 11:07:58 PM PDT by chae (I am karmic retribution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; ex-Texan

How many of these Census workers will be Obama hacks working their leftist agenda and keeping tabs on conservatives?


33 posted on 07/25/2009 4:09:48 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Three adults live here, have a nice day." [SLAM!]

When the ACORN Activist shows up at your door, just tell them Census = "enumeration" four people and a dog...

Every ten years, as directed by the US Constitution, the Government conducts a census of all individuals in the country. This enumeration is used both for reapportionment of the members of Congress, as well as for the distribution of taxes. Along with the benefits of the census have come many risks. This page outlines risks to privacy posed by the census.

The Census and Privacy: Electronic Privacy Information Center(EPIC)

34 posted on 07/25/2009 4:57:38 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To counter act Acorn fraud, answer 5 or even 6 adults live here. That will beef up conservative numbers


35 posted on 07/25/2009 5:01:15 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The boy's war iin Dor tetriot has already cost more then the war in Iraq.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They will get from me “two whiteys live here” Bye


36 posted on 07/25/2009 5:06:15 AM PDT by indylindy (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: bert
To counter act Acorn fraud, answer 5 or even 6 adults live here. That will beef up conservative numbers

A lot of people talk about that but even though the form is obviously unconstitutional, there is a heavy fine for "False" answers on an "official" document, then again there is also a fine for not giving all the requested information, although it has never been enforced... most likely because it would not stand up to a constitutional challenge.

I think the best answer is to follow the Constitution, don't lie to them, don't argue with them (other than challenging their ACORN Membership and taking a "souvenir" picture with an actual ACORN Member... ;-)), Just give them the number of people living there, inform them they are now trespassing and remove themselves from your property.

37 posted on 07/25/2009 5:37:12 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: exit82

Better yet, I will vote “present”.


38 posted on 07/25/2009 5:54:54 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Boys and Girls, it's us against them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

***”Three adults live here, have a nice day.” [SLAM!]***

1. I don’t open my door if I don’t recognize the person through the peep-hole (we know our neighbors and recognize our friend’s automobiles.)

2. I don’t answer the phone if I don’t recognize the number (people who know me always call my cell anyway.)

3. Rules 1 and 2 are mainly because I am a female, but my husband has learned his life is easier if he follows them also.


39 posted on 07/25/2009 6:06:32 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would tell them a lie. I wont let them know the exact number of people in my house. Since ACorn is doing this, why let them know how many people are there so if they give the info to a Gangbanger for a home invasion or burglary, they wont have real intel.


40 posted on 07/25/2009 7:28:36 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( If this be treason, then lets make the best of it.)
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To: All

TAKE BACK THE CENSUS FROM OBAMA’S THUGS
ACORN CENSUS TAKERS WILL TARGET ILLEGALS TO HYPE REDISTRICTING FOR DEMS

ACTION——EMAIL thomas.l.mesenbourg.jr@census.gov
Thomas L Mesenbourg, acting director of the U.S. Census Bureau

MESSAGE Demand that Mr Mesenbourg supply all ACORN census takers with the main tel number for ICE....1-866-347-2423. Mr Mesenbourg must understand it is the legal obligation of US citizens (and census takers) to report an illegal alien’s presence and employment. Notification of wrongdoing compels enforcement action....AND COMPLIANCE.

MESSAGE The census should provide penetrating census forms for illegal aliens. How many identities they are using, multiple precincts in which they are registered to vote, how many welfare checks, UI checks, disability checks, EITC refunds each illegal is pocketing. How many sub-prime mortgage loans they stuck US citizens with. Income from dealing drugs and other income not reported to the IRS. Specific orders they received from foreign governments -—or their agents-—to defraud the US census.

Mesenbourg would be violating the law if he did not advise census takers that it is a US citizen’s lawful obligation to report an illegal alien’s presence and place of employment. All census takers should be provided with the phone number for ICE (TOLL FREE 1-866-347-2423).

Immigration law that requires that aliens be documented for legal entry. (1) Those who sneak into the country are referred to as `entry without inspection (EWI). (2) Others enter with legal documentation and then violate the terms on which they have been admitted by taking jobs that are not authorized or overstaying the authorized period of stay in the country.

NOTE WELL Both types of illegal immigrants are deportable under Immigration and Nationality Act Section 237 (a)(1)(B) which says: Any alien who is present in the United States in violation of this Act or any other law of the United States is deportable. If you have evidence of illegal immigration, contact the main DHS Hotline for assistance. 1 866 DHS - 2ICE (or) 1-866-347-2423. SOURCE: FAIR.org

ACTION Contact Thomas Mesenbourg, acting director of the US Census Bureau
EMAIL thomas.l.mesenbourg.jr@census.gov


41 posted on 07/25/2009 11:42:08 AM PDT by Liz (When people fear govt, we have tyranny; when govt fears the people, we have freedom.)
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To: Yorlik803; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; AuntB; raybbr; Texas resident; bert; chae; Carry_Okie; ...
Call Congress to demand compliance with US law. 202-225-3121
Toll-free capital switchboard: 800-828-0498------877-762-8762-----800-965-4701

MESSAGE TO CONGRESS We demand federal funding for indicted organization ACORN be stopped. We are a nation of laws. It is illegal to force taxpayers to aid and abet, to subsidize and facilitate, ACORN'S predilection for ID theft, voter fraud, government fraud, mortgage fraud, and bank fraud.

MORE ACTION When ACORN census takers show up on your property, call the police. Tell ACORN you don’t want anyone involved in criminal activities anywhere near you...... AND that you, yourself, DO NOT get involved in criminal activities.

PASS THE WORD---HERE'S WHAT TO DO: Have pad and pencil ready. Before ACORN attempts to get your info, you get their name, ID number, name of their immediate supervisor and location of their employment. Tell them you are reporting this to L/E and are storing copies with your lawyer.

You might also video and snap pics of the ACORN census takers, They just HATE that, and they can’t do a thing about it - IT’S ON YOUR PROPERTY!!

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ACTION Call your Congressman and Senators and object to this invasion of your privacy by corrupt thugs who could make use of your private info. MESSAGE State that you will not become an accessory to a crime that makes use of private information for identity fraud.......and that you object to ACORN'S invasion of privacy.

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MAKE COPIES OF THE FOLLOWING ARTICLES (AND OTHERS POSTED ON FreeRepub) RE ACORN'S WRONGDOING AND PASS THEM OUT

'Go after ACORN,' judge says
Pittsburgh TRIBUNE-REVIEW | Tuesday, June 30, 2009 | Walter F. Roche Jr.
FR Posted by Salena Zito

A district judge who held another ACORN worker for trial Monday on election law violations urged prosecutors to go after the real culprit, the organization that employed him. "Somebody has to go after ACORN," Senior District Judge Richard H. Zoller said about the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. "It's happening all over the country. All you have to do is turn on the television," he said, referring to voter registration fraud charges brought recently against ACORN and its workers in Nevada. "We will," Allegheny County Detective Robert F. Keenan promised as he wrapped up his testimony. A spokesman for DA Stephen A. Zappala Jr. said following the hearing that the county's investigation into members of ACORN and their activities during the 2008 campaign "remains open and active." (Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...

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ACORN's Illegal Activities and Mafia-Style Tactics in Congress’s Spotlight
Family Security Matters | March 23, 2009 | Chris Carter
FR Posted 03/27/2009 by Crush

Members of Congress heard testimony against the activist group ACORN on Thursday, exposing the group's illegal activity and mafia-style tactics. Pittsburgh lawyer

Heather Heidelbaugh appeared before the a House Judiciary subcommittee alleging that the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) has violated campaign finance and tax laws in addition to their protest-for-hire and coerced donations.

The source of the accusations was from the sworn testimony of ACORN whistleblower Anita MonCrief, who was a clerk for ACORN's sister organization called Project Vote. MonCrief, a Democrat and Obama supporter, testified last year that Barack Obama's campaign gave Project Vote a "donor list" of people who had contributed the maximum amount allowed by federal law. According to Heidelbaugh's testimony, the donors were to be targeted to donate to ACORN's "Get Out the Vote" efforts and finance voter registration drives.

Heidelbaugh revealed in her testimony that there is virtually no separation between ACORN and Project Vote, as employees working for one group would perform work for the other. (Excerpt) Read more at familysecuritymatters.org ...

42 posted on 07/25/2009 11:52:35 AM PDT by Liz (When people fear govt, we have tyranny; when govt fears the people, we have freedom.)
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