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Government Meeting? Stay Away From Fun City
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 07-23-09 | TAMARA AUDI

Posted on 07/22/2009 12:37:56 PM PDT by GOP_Lady

What do Reno, Orlando and Las Vegas have in common? To some pockets of the federal government, they just seem like too much fun.

Instead, employees at some big agencies, like the U.S. Department of Agriculture, are being encouraged to host meetings in more buttoned-down places such as St. Louis, Milwaukee or Denver.

Travel-industry lobbyists say government policies have essentially resulted in a blacklist of some destinations, such as Las Vegas, top, and Orlando, Fla., above, where Walt Disney World is located. ..When a conference planner for MGM Mirage's New York-New York Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas tried to book a conference with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, she received a polite refusal.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fun; meetings; orlando; vegas


1 posted on 07/22/2009 12:37:57 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady
Gee, I wonder how Harry Reid feels about this?

I'll see you next month Las Vegas! Viva! Viva!

2 posted on 07/22/2009 12:39:03 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: GOP_Lady

yeah I’m not sure I’d put Vegas and Walt Disney World in the same category for the type of “fun” these govt people are looking for.


3 posted on 07/22/2009 12:39:17 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: GOP_Lady

Thanks for visiting!

I hope you got a good deal...there’s lots of them out there right now.


4 posted on 07/22/2009 12:41:35 PM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: GOP_Lady; BossLady; freekitty; Nachum; sheik yerbouty

The “boys” who support Dingy Harry in Vegas won’t likely be supporting him come re-election time. Reid’s Messiah has been bad for business in Vegas if you get the drift. Reid has big problems in Nevada including unhappy voters.


5 posted on 07/22/2009 12:43:24 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: VegasCowboy
I LOVE VEGAS! Nowhere else I would rather be — it has it all.

My favorite hotel/casino had layoffs last September. I was there in May, and it was so great that all of my favorite employees were still there, because they make it fun. I can't wait to see them again.

6 posted on 07/22/2009 12:44:49 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Hi, there!!!


7 posted on 07/22/2009 12:45:17 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: VegasCowboy

Yes, indeed, there are many great deals.

Check it out everyone.


8 posted on 07/22/2009 12:48:31 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: GOP_Lady

Is there any industry these morons can’t harm?


9 posted on 07/22/2009 12:48:41 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: GOP_Lady

How about meeting AT HOME?


10 posted on 07/22/2009 12:50:52 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: colorado tanker

M-O-R-O-N-S!!!

I feel so very sorry for people in these industries.

That’s why the exist — for conventions/meetings.

And now we’re going to punish them?

S-T-U-P-I-D!!!


11 posted on 07/22/2009 12:51:32 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: VegasCowboy
I am officially inviting everyone to the nanny state of Ohio.

At least in Vegas, my hubby (the great GOP_Harley_Guy) can enjoy a cigar with his adult beverage with other like-minded adults.

12 posted on 07/22/2009 12:53:14 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: GOP_Lady

Stay away from Milwaukee...we got enough government people here...and we prefer people thinking our town isn’t “fun”


13 posted on 07/22/2009 12:53:15 PM PDT by MNlurker
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To: AppyPappy

That’s just a thrill, isn’t it?

Only kidding.

Yes, it does serve a purpose.


14 posted on 07/22/2009 12:54:14 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: MNlurker

But my hubby (the great GOP_Harley_Guy) would love to see the Harley plant! LOL.


15 posted on 07/22/2009 12:55:06 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: GOP_Lady
Reno and Vegas cannot stand anymore layoffs and early retirement packages! The only viable work happening in Vegas when I was there in June was massive amounts of road construction.
16 posted on 07/22/2009 12:56:06 PM PDT by BossLady ("WE are the origin of all coming evil" ~~ Carl Jung~~)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Every time I go to Vegas, I tell the locals that Harry Reid should be voted out of office. I make a point of it.


17 posted on 07/22/2009 12:56:07 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: BossLady

I believe it.

It breaks my heart when I see news articles such as this about Vegas. I just keep thinking about my favorite employees there and hope that they still have their jobs.


18 posted on 07/22/2009 12:57:58 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: GOP_Lady

We need the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority to get you on the payroll.

Yep, for the most part Vegas remains a last bastion of freedom.

It’s tough times right now, but not so much people aren’t coming...they are. The strip just got too leveraged and now is struggling with the lower room rates and less spending by tourists.

Anyway, have fun!


19 posted on 07/22/2009 12:59:54 PM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: GOP_Lady
All federal conferences and meetings should be held in Detroit (the city, not the suburbs) to show what the inevitable result of their socialist policies are like.
20 posted on 07/22/2009 1:00:16 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (As a child Obama was rejected from Little League because of lack of a birth certificate.)
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To: GOP_Lady
There is a bit of schadenfreude, however, to the fact that the Dims are hurting Las Vegas, which is where dingy Harry gets most of his votes.
21 posted on 07/22/2009 1:00:44 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: KarlInOhio

OUTSTANDING idea there, KarlInOhio!


22 posted on 07/22/2009 1:01:37 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: colorado tanker
Indeed, it irks me when I see some of the employees wearing “Unions, Yes” buttons.
23 posted on 07/22/2009 1:02:29 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: BossLady

City Center is a massive project that will completed at the end of this year. They are hiring 12K workers. Unforunately, 8,500 construction workers will lose their jobs and there isn’t anywhere for them to go. The concern is that the new influx of rooms will put pressure on the rest of the strip and cause more stress. We’ll see.

You won’t see much construction in Vegas for some time. What you will see is lower costs and a return to what Vegas used to be...a low cost, high value destination for your vacation dollar.


24 posted on 07/22/2009 1:02:54 PM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: GOP_Lady

Tell him to hurry all we may have soon is the museum...


25 posted on 07/22/2009 1:05:06 PM PDT by MNlurker
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To: GOP_Lady

I have attended a conference for the last two years in Orlando that is sponsored by a .gov agency. I have found the conference meetings to be very helpful to my job and the accomodations (Marriott) are very nice. However, the same conference could be moved to LV and easily halve the hotel room nightly cost when compared to Orlando. I also expect the airfare could be cheaper.

The bottom line cost should be driving this, not “appearances”. If a decision has been made that a conference would have value, then present the conference at a place where the value is enhanced by reasonable costs for hotel, food, and airfare.

BTW, in the years prior to my going to this conference, I am told it was held in prime places like Toledo, OH. Personally, I have my doubts about the value of returning to such garden spots just to keep up “appearances”. I guess this also explains why there was not an announcement at the end of this year’s conference about returning to Orlando.


26 posted on 07/22/2009 1:06:35 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: VegasCowboy
Hey, VegasCowboy, I can't begin to tell you how many Ohioans go to Vegas and how many of them I see there while I'm there.

You wouldn't believe the number of people that I work with who go to Vegas. They know I love it, and they come up to me and say, “I'm going to Vegas!”

One lady with whom I work with asked me why I love Vegas. I told her “It's the people you meet,” which is true, but she really wouldn't understand my real reason — FREEDOM and being around happy people because of it. :-)

27 posted on 07/22/2009 1:06:35 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: T-Bird45

Toledo? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Indeed, Vegas is one of the CHEAPEST places to have meetings/conventions.

I can fly non-stop, round-trip from Cleveland for around $200.


28 posted on 07/22/2009 1:08:54 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: GOP_Lady
Instead, employees at some big agencies, like the U.S. Department of Agriculture, are being encouraged to host meetings in more buttoned-down places such as St. Louis, Milwaukee or Denver.

I'd suggest the USDA look into Adobe Connect and tell their intrepid employees to park it. 12% unemployment and tax dollars are being spent to fly USDA employees around for meetings. Insane.
29 posted on 07/22/2009 1:14:58 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: GOP_Lady

Actually, Las Vegas, in some ways, is most affordable for these conventions... the range of prices for food is from cheap to WOW...... and rooms are still very affordable — probably less than SS Administration paid for the Phoenix Biltmore.


30 posted on 07/22/2009 1:16:02 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: GOP_Lady
I know...it's heartbreaking! I go to Vegas for business and/or pleasure about 6 times per year so you get to know people. At Christmas, several of the casino employees I talked to were worried about January layoffs....then when I went back in January for a weekend of seminars....a few were missing! Sad!!!

The big casinos in Reno - Atlantis and Peppermill have been holding their own....cut a few hours but no big layoffs. Atlantis seems to be paying off more jackpots(they have a casino wide jackpot that goes up to $50,000 that can go off anytime, anywhere, any machine...it paid off 3 times last month!). Because of all the jackpots and payoffs...they draw more of a crowd. I won $2500 on the Wicked Winnings II penny slot last month! ;) They also have a Reno exclusive contract with a couple of the slot companies so they get all the newest and latest games before anyone else in town! (Smart!!)

31 posted on 07/22/2009 1:16:20 PM PDT by BossLady ("WE are the origin of all coming evil" ~~ Carl Jung~~)
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To: VegasCowboy
I kind of hope so!!! I started going to Vegas in 1987 when I moved to Los Angeles.....I really loved it then!!! As time marched on and promoters wanted to make it a 'family destination' it got ever-increasingly annoying.....but I still liked going for a weekend...hahaha! ;)

I cannot get over the fact that more and more casinos/hotels are being built....it is stupefying!!!

32 posted on 07/22/2009 1:20:42 PM PDT by BossLady ("WE are the origin of all coming evil" ~~ Carl Jung~~)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Maybe they will have finally learned something!


33 posted on 07/22/2009 1:21:22 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: GOP_Lady

Yup, seems the libs are trying to kill the Vegas economy. Seems they also hate gambling now from what I have been seeing online.. its now “Selfish and greedy” according to them


34 posted on 07/22/2009 1:23:08 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: eXe

Idiots.

It’s the non-selfish and non-greedy people like me and others who are ensuring their jobs.


35 posted on 07/22/2009 1:25:26 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: Arizona Carolyn

You’ve got that right, Arizona Carolyn.


36 posted on 07/22/2009 1:26:30 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: GOP_Lady

The people in Las Vegas have every right to sue not the government but those in authority in the govt. under the equal protection clause.

the mandates by the govt have the effect of going against the US Constitution by punishing the way they gain renumeration, although their gainful employment is 100% legal.


37 posted on 07/22/2009 1:28:42 PM PDT by bestintxas
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To: eXe

Re: “Yup, seems the libs are trying to kill the Vegas economy. Seems they also hate gambling now from what I have been seeing online.. its now “Selfish and greedy” according to them”

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Well, it appears some of the idiot libs didn’t get the memo to stay away because a few I know just returned from a week there — on their own dimes. I hope they spent a LOT of money in L.V.


38 posted on 07/22/2009 1:28:54 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: BossLady

Thanks for the info, BossLady.

I’ve never been to Reno, but have had offers.

At my favorite casino in Vegas, they reduced the hours of the floor beverage servers from 8 to 6 per day and are having them cover more of the floor. They’re working even harder now.


39 posted on 07/22/2009 1:29:58 PM PDT by GOP_Lady (I LOVE RUSH! So why "Rush In A Hurry?")
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To: GOP_Lady

I figure he doesn’t give a rats behind. He is bigger than his state. He’s a lifetime congress critter!


40 posted on 07/22/2009 2:00:53 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: GOP_Lady

I play later at night and I bring my own beverage since there is about 3 servers for a huge casino like the Atlantis! LOL!


41 posted on 07/22/2009 2:42:39 PM PDT by BossLady ("WE are the origin of all coming evil" ~~ Carl Jung~~)
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