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Lou Dobbs and the canard over President Obama's birth
LA Times ^ | July 22, 2009 | James Rainey

Posted on 07/22/2009 1:00:12 AM PDT by Haddit

Lou Dobbs had David from Freeport, N.Y., on the line, the caller musing darkly about President Obama "rushing all these programs through by whatever means," knowing he will soon be exposed as a fake, a fraud, a . . . Kenyan.

At that point, a scrupulous radio host had three options: (A) hit the kill button (B) laugh and hit the kill button or (C) offer some push-back against the fantastical notion that Barack Obama was born on foreign soil and thus serves -- illegally -- as the Oval Office's first resident alien.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: article2section1; birth; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; eligibility; ineligible; kenyabelieveit; la; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; times
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1 posted on 07/22/2009 1:00:12 AM PDT by Haddit
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To: Haddit
So now it doesn't matter that the President is foreign born, lied and committed fraud against the entire nation for a greedy grab at power?

Nah, why would that matter?

2 posted on 07/22/2009 1:03:50 AM PDT by GeronL (UnitedCitizen.Blogspot.Com --------- United Citizens Nation! ------------- Join Today!)
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To: GeronL

if he is


3 posted on 07/22/2009 1:04:10 AM PDT by GeronL (UnitedCitizen.Blogspot.Com --------- United Citizens Nation! ------------- Join Today!)
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To: Haddit

I think they are mocking, but I was too lazy to go with the link. At least the lead in to the article sounds like they are going to smack the Conservatives—which would be befitting of the LAT. In that case, they will laugh a lot much more, perhaps, before they eventually begin to cry up a terrible storm (when their man is exposed and is forced out). As they say, the last laugh will be on them.


4 posted on 07/22/2009 1:05:20 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Wanted Bumper Sticker: "Hey! America! How's that Obama thing working out these days, hmmm?")
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To: GeronL
How this thing will evolve, IMHO.

It will go from NO WAY!

to

SO WHAT!

to

SHUT UP!

5 posted on 07/22/2009 1:06:18 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Wanted Bumper Sticker: "Hey! America! How's that Obama thing working out these days, hmmm?")
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To: Haddit

The Monica Sue Presstitutes twist themselves into pretzels spinning for their Dear Leader.


6 posted on 07/22/2009 1:06:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (We are here and it is now. Further than that all human knowledge is moonshine.)
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To: Haddit

LA TIMES? holy cow


7 posted on 07/22/2009 1:13:15 AM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT
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To: All

Something is here, the libs are now attacking and discrediting the messengers, there is something is to this


8 posted on 07/22/2009 1:14:33 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: Haddit

...Dobbs did not return my call Tuesday. But he did go on the radio and rant about the L.A. Times and the other liberal media that are “subservient and servile to this presidency.”

He insisted he believed Obama is a citizen, while continuing to tell listeners “there is no actual birth certificate.” He did it because he is a Man of the People. And, as he explained, “the American people want an answer.”


9 posted on 07/22/2009 1:15:22 AM PDT by Haddit
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I totally agree


10 posted on 07/22/2009 1:18:11 AM PDT by GeronL (UnitedCitizen.Blogspot.Com --------- United Citizens Nation! ------------- Join Today!)
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To: Haddit

All this could be settled today if he produces the birth certificate, not some mimeographed copy of a copy of an unproven document that could’ve been produced well after the event. What’s on the ACTUAL certificate that he doesn’t want us to see ? Birthplace other than Honolulu ? Another father ? Religion listed as “Mohammadan” ? Which is it ?


11 posted on 07/22/2009 1:19:44 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: GeronL
George Bush: The "unelected" president.

Barak Hussein Obama: The "ineligible to run for office" president.

12 posted on 07/22/2009 1:23:17 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: Haddit
L A times lecturing Lou Dobbs about journalistic ethics huh?
Are they for real?
Is this the same LA Times that
# 1. When there was an increase in the marriage rate in Iraq, and every single person they interviewed who was actually getting married said they were doing so because conditions in the country were improving. Yet the LA TIMES turned round, and portrayed the phenomenon as Iraqis trying to make the best of an unjust war?
# 2. When John Murtha made a crazy anti-war speech, the LA times turned round and claimed that Murtha’s had always been a pro-war “hawk” and a strong ally of President Bush in the Iraq war, when in fact, Murtha had criticized the war even before it started, and was in fact a strong anti-war, anti-Bush nut?

And a very very long list of lies, distortions, anti-Bush hate, anti-repubican hate for the entire 8 years that bush was in power, as carefully chronicled by the great Patterico on his web site here?
http://patterico.com/2005/12/31/pattericos-los-angeles-dog-trainer-year-in-review-2005/

13 posted on 07/22/2009 1:32:29 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“What’s on the ACTUAL certificate that he doesn’t want us to see ?”

Nobody knows what Obozo is hiding, but if he ever had one, it would look like this:

http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u358/zczc3185/Birth_cert_coats_7c.jpg

If he would release this, the whole issue would dry up
and blow away, provided it did not have some fatal or damning information.


14 posted on 07/22/2009 1:36:00 AM PDT by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: Haddit

Me either. What they are choosing to ignore also is we have a man and woman in the WH who by all appearances hate everything about America. It is Obamas intent to destroy us.


15 posted on 07/22/2009 1:43:05 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: AlexW

Yup. Same with Kerry not signing the release form for his military records. There’s something in them that’s damning.


16 posted on 07/22/2009 1:43:57 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Haddit
...Dobbs did not return my call Tuesday. But he did go on the radio and rant about the L.A. Times and the other liberal media that are “subservient and servile to this presidency.” He insisted he believed Obama is a citizen, while continuing to tell listeners “there is no actual birth certificate.” He did it because he is a Man of the People. And, as he explained, “the American people want an answer.”

*****

I have watched Dobbs off and on over the years.

What I learned is this: Once Dobbs jumps onto a subject like the Obama birth certificate, he jumps on it like an angry bulldog, and he doesn't let go until he is satisfied that the topic or problem is resolved to his satisfaction.

I have also learned that the more Dobbs is criticized, the madder and tougher he gets.

He can be relentless, so people like the LA TIMES better be careful if they are looking for a long fight with Dobbs over this Obama birth certificate issue.

17 posted on 07/22/2009 2:06:55 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Just like the Lewinsky scandal then?


18 posted on 07/22/2009 2:12:10 AM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: GeronL

OK. It is the only available proof of citizenship, and the State of Hawaii considers it sufficient. To say otherwise is to say that thousands of Hawaiians may be obtaining US passports through fraud. Is it inconceivable to ask what happened to the long form, and is it inconceivable that at least a few Hawaiians did obtain US passports through fraud? If his mother had applied for US citizenship for her foreign-born son, he would still not be eligible to serve as President. Thus, while she might not have engaged in any conspiracy, not knowing that her son would later aspire to be president, he might have later in life, and then arranged to have the long-form certificate lost, and the number on the short-form certificate altered. Maybe. Could be. Nothing far out about it, really. On the other hand, maybe not. Only the long-form certificate can prove the matter one way or the other.


19 posted on 07/22/2009 2:17:30 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html. Donate to members.tripod.com/tva_israel/HOME.HTM)
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To: Haddit
Cooler heads at CNN put some distance between themselves and their once star host, with fill-in Kitty Pilgrim using a segment of "Lou Dobbs Tonight" on Friday to provide a substantially more skeptical look at the Obama-made-in-Africa claims.

I saw that segment. Kitty read off all the "proof" of BO's American citizenship, and gave little time for the other side to respond. It was a waste of time for Keys and Taitz to be on the show.

20 posted on 07/22/2009 2:33:26 AM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: john mirse

Let us hope, and PRAY, then, that they do get Dobbs angry, and push him into ICBM mode over this. The LAT would be stupid enough to do it, to get into such a fight. Get out the popcorn, if that is the case!!


21 posted on 07/22/2009 2:51:08 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Wanted Bumper Sticker: "Hey! America! How's that Obama thing working out these days, hmmm?")
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To: thecabal
Yes, it is their fall back positions.

Also, they will change the subject. And they will also go on the OFFENSIVE. When RINOS and lots of Republicans are pushed, they end up going on the DEFENSIVE most of the time, and getting painted into the corner. The Lib Democrat OTH, knows how to get out of these head locks very skillfully, by dodging, lying, ignoring, changing the subject, and rationalizing. They will NOT BE PINNED DOWN. The question will be, will the American People have an elevated sense of understanding of the issue or will they even care? How many 25 year olds do you know who would curse and demand impeachment if tomorrow they learned Obama was a Kenyan? My guess is that 80% of people in the USA of that age might say, "oh, like, way kewllll", and the other 20 % might say, "wow, whose this Obama dude again?")

The same that was at play over Lewinsky, will be at playing in the BHO-BC fight. Even internally they must have some high level, controlled meetings to handle the possibility of them being busted on the Kenyan Birth situation...they will have an answer and rationalization for EVERYTHING. They will try to get out of it.

It will then be up to the American People.

Just as it was up to the American People when Clinton got impeached by the House.

By and large, what did most of them do?

There is your answer, unfortunately.

22 posted on 07/22/2009 2:57:55 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Wanted Bumper Sticker: "Hey! America! How's that Obama thing working out these days, hmmm?")
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To: Haddit; All

This whole episode reminds me of when the news of Clinton’s affair came out in January. It was denied, covered up, and supported by all the talking heads. Then the prove “came” with the blue dress and DNA tests, and everyone trotted out shocked and dismayed that the lies they had been peddling for a year were just that.

I think there will be a day of reckoning on this issue, and instinct tells me there is something to hide. Religion, actual father, dual citizenship, I have no clue, but when -7bama becomes -15bama, he is going to be pressed into showing his cards.


23 posted on 07/22/2009 3:10:55 AM PDT by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
As his poll numbers continue to plummet the Klintonistas will put the knife to his back. His own party will insist he step down over this issue. "Birthers" are only loony when they are conservative. When the Dems call for his head it will be "patriotic". Just sayin'...

Μολὼν λάβε


24 posted on 07/22/2009 3:20:05 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
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To: wastoute

There is no honor among thieves, so I don’t discount that possibility.


25 posted on 07/22/2009 3:25:30 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Maybe we should all renounce US citizenship, leave, & come back in as illegals; get a better deal!)
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To: Haddit

What about his Kindergarden records or His Passport or his College financial records,How did he pay for college where are any of his papers for that matter .The Best they can do is say he produced a Certificate of live Birth and a copy at that


26 posted on 07/22/2009 3:29:44 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: johncocktoasten
This is that while chatting among ourselves on FR is fine, we have to discipline ourselves at some point (during our workweeks or weekends) to reach out and to PERSONALLY call at least five friends and family who may have reluctantly voted for Obama in November (you know who they are; they either say they voted for him, or they don't say anything when you start in on Obama), and now have second thoughts/buyers remorse. And then just bad mouth the hell out of him, tell them you hear it from all over from everybody, and it will spread like wildfire that way. FR is big enough to have an impact if we just multiply it to 5 people we know, that's all.

There is enough growing disenchantment, I sense. That is when you can get the middle and the undecideds to start to break your way. He then ends up with a hard core 30% for him, but 70% of the nation agin' him. It will be a beautiful sight indeed. Then we can get all kinds of things done, including impeachment and/or removal, or certainly stopping his legislative agenda and starting the conservative counterassault and rollback of socialism. Si se puede.

27 posted on 07/22/2009 3:30:33 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Maybe we should all renounce US citizenship, leave, & come back in as illegals; get a better deal!)
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To: Haddit

Never thought I’d see this in the Times

james.rainey@latimes.com


28 posted on 07/22/2009 3:44:38 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: AlexW

“Just last month, the Hawaii Department of Health confirmed to the Honolulu Star-Bulletin that the document is the only official record of the president’s birth and proves he was born in that state.”

Was I in a coma last month?
I heard no such thing.


29 posted on 07/22/2009 3:54:07 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

About as much chance of seeing obamma lamma ding dongs birht certificate as we have seeing John freakin Kerry’s military file.


30 posted on 07/22/2009 3:56:06 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Joe Boucher

I never knew getting a mosquito bite on a cruise ship gets you a purple heart. Did you ?


31 posted on 07/22/2009 3:59:04 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Haddit

Obama-made-in-Africa
The fraud-in-chief is coming down.


32 posted on 07/22/2009 4:04:56 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (thirst for absolute power is the natural disease of monarchy - Thomas Paine)
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To: Haddit

All I keep hearing them say is that he is a citizen of the United States. So is Arnie.


33 posted on 07/22/2009 4:06:27 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: GeronL

Lou Dobbs had some folks on his TV show last night discussing this.

Profound commentary from Dr. Joy Brown! But but the people don’t care about this!

The other guests vehemently disagreed with her.

End of segment!


34 posted on 07/22/2009 4:10:13 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Haddit

Chris Matthews was characterizing the birth certificate questions as coming from the kook fringe.

(Was channel surfing last night, caught about 15 seconds of it)


35 posted on 07/22/2009 4:11:17 AM PDT by P.O.E. ((optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Hard to believe some Viet Nam vet has not gotten a hold of Kerry and beat his sorry butt in to tomorrow.
You know he deserves and needs a serious ass whoopin.


36 posted on 07/22/2009 4:20:05 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: AlexW
ok that's a Hawaii bc of the same time frame? Because it look to be near identical form to my CA bc
37 posted on 07/22/2009 4:57:20 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Obama plans to fix America like he fixed his dog)
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To: Joe Boucher

The Swift Boaters told the truth !


38 posted on 07/22/2009 4:57:32 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Joe Boucher

You got that right.


39 posted on 07/22/2009 4:57:47 AM PDT by imahawk (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Haddit

For a small fee of $15, Obama could simply present his original long form birth certificate to prove natural born eligibility. But noooooooooooo, he’s spent around million dollars in legal fees to keep it hidden. Speaks for itself.


40 posted on 07/22/2009 5:03:13 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: Haddit

IT’s a great sign when even a MSM icon like the LAT is forced to report on the Kenyan’s “natural born citizen” status.


41 posted on 07/22/2009 5:03:32 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I'd like to see the "citizenship" block on his college applications, and on the papers he used to travel to Pakistan.
42 posted on 07/22/2009 5:05:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Haddit

Think it’s called *Going to bat for the ?President?*

Hope this drives him to smoking cigs while boring us to death with his ever-present mug on TV.


43 posted on 07/22/2009 5:06:20 AM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: Salamander

““Just last month, the Hawaii Department of Health confirmed to the Honolulu Star-Bulletin that the document is the only official record of the president’s birth and proves he was born in that state.””

I have not heard that, but it makes no difference.
The only one that counts is the one like I posted.
As noted here on FR some weeks ago, the health department has to have a copy of the original certificate, if only on microfilm.
It is illegal for them to destroy or trash any older documents.


44 posted on 07/22/2009 5:08:15 AM PDT by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: Haddit

Tell you what, libtards. I’ll give up my birth certificate myth if you give up your global warming hoax.


45 posted on 07/22/2009 5:08:55 AM PDT by Walrus (My congressman is toast in 2010 --- how about yours?)
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To: Travis McGee

Weren’t you glad the media was there to investigate every important detail of his life and to properly vet him for public approval ?


46 posted on 07/22/2009 5:19:15 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Haddit

Kenya just show us the real papers?


47 posted on 07/22/2009 5:19:18 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Jim Thompson 2012! Go JimTom Go!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Comrade, do I detect a hint of sarcasm?


48 posted on 07/22/2009 5:22:25 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: wintertime

Ping for later


49 posted on 07/22/2009 5:24:37 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Something is here, the libs are now attacking and discrediting the messengers, there is something is to this

It's like the Chinese Water Torture. The steady drip-drip-drip from the Internet is driving them insane. They know that they can't ignore it any longer, it's got too much traction on the Net.

50 posted on 07/22/2009 5:28:43 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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