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Birth Certificate Issue Bubbles Up (From Rush)
Rushlimbaugh.com ^ | 7-20-09 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 07/20/2009 2:59:46 PM PDT by STARWISE

RUSH: This is a town meeting in Delaware. An unidentified woman and Representative Mike Castle have the following exchange. It's about Obama's birth certificate.

WOMAN: I want to go back to January 20th, and I want to know, why are you people ignoring his birth certificate? (cheers and applause) He is not an American citizen. He is a citizen of Kenya. I am American. My father worked -- fought in World War II with the Greatest Generation in the Pacific theater for this country, and I don't want this flag to change. I want my country back! (cheers and applause)

CASTLE: If you're referring to the president there, he is a citizen of the United States. (crowd shouting)

WOMAN: All the men and women who died for this country in 1776 'til the present time. I think we should all stand up and give Pledge of Allegiance to that wonderful flag (cheers and applause) people that sacrificed their lives for our freedom. Everybody stand up.

RUSH: State of Delaware, Mike Castle, town meeting, woman wants to know why nobody's interested in the fact that he hasn't shown anybody his birth certificate. If you couldn't understand her, she was saying he's a citizen of Kenya. I'm American. My father worked, fought in World War II, the greatest generation, Pacific theater for this country, and I don't want this flag to change. The crowd went nuts. There's all kinds of stuff bubbling up out there.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
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Mike Castle on PeeBo's Birthcertificate

Rush's link:

'You can boo'

Rep. Mike Castle, a Delaware moderate Republican, gets a taste of how popular among the GOP base is the belief that the president isn't a citizen and, by extension, isn't legitimate.

Dave Wiegel writes that the issue has been dogging Republicans around the country, as they many to tamp down the conspiracy theories while keeping faith with the base.


1 posted on 07/20/2009 2:59:46 PM PDT by STARWISE
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To: penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; April Lexington; ...

~~PING!


2 posted on 07/20/2009 3:02:37 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

I don’t believe in any conspiracy theories. I just want to see Obama’s birth certificate. John McCain produced his own within 24 hours of being asked. Why won’t Obama? He could shut this whole issue down in one second if he produced his birth certificate.


3 posted on 07/20/2009 3:03:31 PM PDT by American Quilter (The urge to save humanity is nearly always a cover for the urge to rule. - H.L. Mencken)
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To: STARWISE

One question: “Congressman Castle, have you personally seen Barack Hussein 0bama’s original birth certificate PROVING he is Constitutionally eligible to serve as the President of the United States, YES or NO?!?”


4 posted on 07/20/2009 3:04:34 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: STARWISE

That woman was great! She did exactly what you have to do to these dopey congressman. Get in their face and let them see that the tide is turning! Let them see that people are tired of this crap!


5 posted on 07/20/2009 3:08:26 PM PDT by Batman11 (Chicago, Land of Lincoln who freed the slaves and Land of Obama who enslaved the free.)
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To: STARWISE
It would be simple for him to prove. He should want to prove it. Fact is, his entire upbringing is shrouded in disinformation.

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THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

A 4TH OF JULY TEA PARTY SPEECH

...and on the lighter side, take your mind off the Obamanation for a few minutes and enjoy some beautiful Western US scenery slideshows.

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6 posted on 07/20/2009 3:08:39 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: STARWISE

Lets get Larry Klayman back! He sued the Clintons every five minutes and raised hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of dollars. Of course he got laughed out of every court and never won a thing against them, but he did shear a lot of sheep of their money. Sorry, but thats what this smells like to me.


7 posted on 07/20/2009 3:10:06 PM PDT by mono
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To: STARWISE

I heard it on Rush. That woman is my new hero! The rally cry heard around the world!

I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!!

WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!!


8 posted on 07/20/2009 3:10:34 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: American Quilter

“I don’t believe in any conspiracy theories. I just want to see Obama’s birth certificate. John McCain produced his own within 24 hours of being asked. Why won’t Obama? He could shut this whole issue down in one second if he produced his birth certificate.”

Uh, that’s WHY he WON’T show it! If he can make the right-wing look like “kooks” for believing he’s not a natural born citizen, even though he’s shared his COLB which “proves” he was born in Hawaii to the masses, it helps him politically. He marginalizes his opposition. He was born in Honolulu but I dont think he’ll ever prove it. it helps him to have this ‘out there’.

The leftists are using this scene as proof that the Republican base has gone off the deep end. Just like they used the polling data last year that 20% of voters believed Obama was muslim. Hmmm, before he went to Turkey to say USA wasnt a Christian, appeared to bow to the Saudi king, and grovelled and pandered in Cairo.

I wonder if he’s partly doing this bat-sh*t-crazy stuff just to make the right go nuts. I dont for a second think he’s a muslim, secret partial or otherwise. he’s a leftist and there’s a big difference.


9 posted on 07/20/2009 3:12:50 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: STARWISE

Rush touched very gingerly on this issue a few times in the past few weeks with his jokes about God and Obama not having birth certificates. But this is the first time I’ve heard of his raising the issue in a more serious way.

I have though for some time that he COULD have raised the issue in a non-confrontational way by saying that there were numerous lawsuits, or that others were concerned. Not that Rush was suspicious, but that others were. But up to this moment he refrained from doing that.

So this strikes me as a significant moment. Rush wouldn’t have done this without careful thought. Because there’s always some version of the Fairness Doctrine hanging over his head. Or maybe an income tax audit, which was one of clinton’s favorite punishments for anyone who questioned him.


10 posted on 07/20/2009 3:12:57 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: American Quilter
I don’t believe in any conspiracy theories. I just want to see Obama’s birth certificate. John McCain produced his own within 24 hours of being asked. Why won’t Obama? He could shut this whole issue down in one second if he produced his birth certificate.

And why is he sending teams of lawyers all over the country at a cost of tens of thousands of dollars to fight the lawsuits? No economist, he. A $12 copy would have ended all the problems -- unless there's something to hide.

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11 posted on 07/20/2009 3:13:47 PM PDT by JCG
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To: mono

“Lets get Larry Klayman back! He sued the Clintons every five minutes and raised hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of dollars.”

FWIW I got a fundraising mailer from Judicial Watch this week. I didnt check if they were using the birth cert stuff to raise money. I just threw it out.


12 posted on 07/20/2009 3:14:04 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: mono
I beg to differ.

Larry Klayman WON for the Association of Physicians and Surgeons who SUED by name hillary for her horrific health care debacle because she ILLEGALLY closed all sessions of her 700 plus committee (those who stood to get FILTHY RICH WITH HER REWARDS FOR THEIR WORK!).

They were fined over 200,000 and all court costs thanks to DC Judge Royce C. Lamberth...who very kindly sent me a copy of the judgement!

13 posted on 07/20/2009 3:14:43 PM PDT by Republic (Uhbama has sleezed and schmoozed his way through life-he is a silly little boy with inmmature dreams)
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To: Jeff Head

It’s obvious that Rush is furious, as we all are,
at what 0 is doing to our beloved country.

He, however, also has a loyal audience of est. 20
million, and this mention wasn’t the first of the
birth certificate .. nor even the first of today’s
show.

I kinda doubt it will be the last.

I think 0 has a bullseye on his back, and Rush
is cocked and ready to do some serious damage.
Lord knows he has the resources.

Go Rush!!!


14 posted on 07/20/2009 3:15:18 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Jeff Head

I haven’t yet figured out why Rush keeps barely touching on the birth certificate issue, then backs off ...

He’s such a tease when it comes to this.


15 posted on 07/20/2009 3:16:45 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: WOSG

Not only that, but the issue can further splinter the GOP. As this scene proves.


16 posted on 07/20/2009 3:18:27 PM PDT by Unlikely Hero ("Time is a wonderful teacher; unfortunately, it kills all its pupils." --Berlioz)
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To: darkwing104; Old Sarge; hellinahandcart

Sniff, sniff at post #7.
mono
Since Oct 28, 2008


17 posted on 07/20/2009 3:19:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I am Jim Thompson!!)
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To: WOSG

That may be the case, but I think it’s beginning to backfire on Obama in that it makes him appear arrogant and tyrannical.

Since so many ordinary Americans have to present their birth certificate in order to get a driver’s license, a passport or other documents, I have to think ordinary people are beginning to wonder why it is okay for someone to become president and refuse to reveal his birth certificate.


18 posted on 07/20/2009 3:19:29 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
He is arrogant and tyrannical!
19 posted on 07/20/2009 3:22:56 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: STARWISE

This afternoon on American Family Radio, Dr. Orly Taitz spoke about O’s ineligibility for president because he is not a “natural born citizen”. Under the U.S. Constitution, one of the requirements is for BOTH parents to be U.S. citizens. O’s dad was a British/Kenyan Colony Citizen.

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/


20 posted on 07/20/2009 3:24:37 PM PDT by NorwegianViking (Organizing for America)
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To: All; STARWISE

The case of the “missing” birth certificate grows more and more curious. It has been fascinating to see how quickly various news sites have been frantically altering their assertions regarding Obama’s birth hospital ever since Jerome Corsi broke the news of Barack Obama’s letter to the Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children on July 6. This means that Obama was either born twice in Hawaii, or he was not born at Queen’s Medical Center, as he claimed (or, more accurately, was reported by UPI to have claimed), in 2007 when he first announced his presidential candidacy in Springfield, Ill.

The attempt of the Obama administration to confuse the issue by substituting a computerized Certification of Live Birth for an actual Certificate of Live Birth – which contains information about the birth hospital as well as the signature of the attending physician or midwife – has failed, as WorldNetDaily had no trouble explaining the difference between the two to the American public.

While numerous attempts to clarify the historical record have been successfully fought by the administration’s lawyers, the issue became much more serious when Maj. Stefan Cook, a U.S. Army reservist with deployment orders to Afghanistan, filed a lawsuit regarding his questions about the legality of a deployment order based on the command of a potentially illegitimate commander in chief. But rather than contesting the suit, the Army took the highly peculiar step of revoking the major’s deployment order, suggesting that the Pentagon generals are not entirely confident that they can demonstrate the legitimacy of their purported commander in chief.

The doubts this action raised about Obama’s legitimacy were further increased when Maj. Cook was almost immediately fired from his civilian job at a private defense contractor, reportedly due to pressure from a federal agency under the Department of Defense, the Defense Security Services Agency. Although the obvious purpose of revoking the deployment order was to render the lawsuit moot, the firing only provides Maj. Cook with additional ammunition for broadening the scope of his lawsuit now that he has suffered demonstrable material damages.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104445

All he has to do to end this is release his records. Why won’t he?


21 posted on 07/20/2009 3:27:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I am Jim Thompson!!)
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To: STARWISE

FREEP that You Tube video!!!! The obambots are there and they are mad.


22 posted on 07/20/2009 3:28:35 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: WOSG
Uh, that’s WHY he WON’T show it! If he can make the right-wing look like “kooks” for believing he’s not a natural born citizen, even though he’s shared his COLB which “proves” he was born in Hawaii to the masses, it helps him politically.

Oh, there's the that idiotic canard that Obama's doing some kind of rope-a-dope before he pulls it out. BS. You guys make it up as you go.

And just say you are right but so highly improbable. For the sake of argument what has Obama won? A news cycle? A couple of days in the news. It won't stop his steep fall in the polls, not with his insane policies he is pushing on America. It won't stop him from being the first lame-duck president with years away from 2012 elections. Give it up, your hypothesis is nonsense.

23 posted on 07/20/2009 3:28:44 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: mono

Boy..you really have your moonbat talking points down don’t you?

SHOW US THE REAL LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!

WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!


24 posted on 07/20/2009 3:28:44 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: American Quilter

I agree with you 100%. I just want to see it. Why doesn’t he show it? It would shut down the entire subject and make the doubters, all or mostly conservatives, look like fools, so it would be politically expedient for him to do it.

Show us the birth certificate!!

He purports to be the president of the United States, yet he is unwilling to produce the document that would prove the most fundamental requirement to sit as president.


25 posted on 07/20/2009 3:29:25 PM PDT by bustinchops
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To: STARWISE

Bump!!!


26 posted on 07/20/2009 3:30:07 PM PDT by circumbendibus (Where's the Birth Certificate?)
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To: NorwegianViking
"Under the U.S. Constitution, one of the requirements is for BOTH parents to be U.S. citizens."

Is this correct?

27 posted on 07/20/2009 3:30:13 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: BP2

I’m just guessing. From what I know of him, Rush has very sound and definite principles. But he does sometimes keep quiet about things if he things it would be better not to speak out for some reason—because it wouldn’t do any good, or because it would be counterproductive.

For instance, he was pretty gingerly about criticizing Bush through most of his time in office. Not that I’m sure he didn’t often differ with him, but because on some issues it may have seemed better to stay quiet than to weaken a Republican in office who was doing at least some good things.

The downside of Rush’s mentioning the birth issue strikes me as two-pronged. It risks bringing on the Fairness Doctrine or other controls on free speech. And it doesn’t seem to be getting any traction where it would actually accomplish something—in the courts, congress, or among voters who don’t already oppose Obama anyway.

So his mentioning it now suggests that maybe Rush has decided that we are reaching a turning point, and that it may actually do some good to raise the issue. Maybe he knows something that we don’t. Maybe he has a sense that the public is turning on this issue.

I know that I have been raising the issue and reporting on developments in a dominantly liberal forum, and that recent developments have pretty much shut up the usual knee-jerk liberal response—namely, the COLB. They now pretty much understand that Obama has abandoned the COLB and it’s no longer available as an automatic answer to crazy right-wing conspiracy theorists. Then there’s that curious hospital business. Which one was Obama born in, anyway?

Maybe the dam is breaking, and Rush has decided it’s time to weigh in. Let’s see if he raises the issue again.


28 posted on 07/20/2009 3:33:14 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: penelopesire

The pressure is starting to mount on Obama so I expect the bats will be out to protect him with their nonsense.


29 posted on 07/20/2009 3:33:46 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: BP2

Lets make this an issue. Obama isn’t showing the BC because there is something on it he doesn’t want us to see. What ever it is—I want to see it. When we get Conservatives/Republicans and/or Independents in charge—I demand an investigation into the whole Birth Certificate thing—If old Obama hasn’t got a fake one in place by then. While Obama is popular and controls congress we can do little. But, his days are numbered once his popularity falters and his Democratic-Socialist Party is weakened in the polls. We must keep this issue and more before the public least they—like 9-11—forget this man and his ideas.


30 posted on 07/20/2009 3:36:01 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: WOSG

I’m thinking obamma will not show his American birth certificate, because it does not exist. There is no other plausible explanation for him refusing to show it. None!


31 posted on 07/20/2009 3:37:49 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: BP2
He’s such a tease when it comes to this.

You can't directly prove it and you can't force the Kenyan to produce his BC. He doesn't want to come off too forceful and look like a nut but wishes to nourish a growing belief that Obama is hiding something.

32 posted on 07/20/2009 3:38:20 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: newfreep

See ISSUES:

http://www.theobamafile.com/


34 posted on 07/20/2009 3:39:09 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: STARWISE

Obama*, because, like Barry Bonds, we know he isn’t deserving.


35 posted on 07/20/2009 3:40:01 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: STARWISE

While we are distracted by healthcare and the birth certificate issue, the Senate has voted 63-37 to add the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Bill to the Defense Authorization bill. This bill is almost certain to pass! We must mobilize to stop what would be the biggest curtailment of freedom of speech and religion in the last 100 years! Call you Rep and Senator NOW to stop this bill!


36 posted on 07/20/2009 3:40:11 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: American Quilter

Exactly


37 posted on 07/20/2009 3:41:16 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: WOSG

The left doesn’t want to see us “go off yhe deep end” They may think they do, but they won’t get to define “deep end”if we go off on ‘em...


38 posted on 07/20/2009 3:41:21 PM PDT by Quickgun
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To: Republic; Jeff Head

I signed on to Klaymans suit against the Bank Of New York, owned stock, over Bubbas NY Mortgage, got audited for five years.


39 posted on 07/20/2009 3:43:16 PM PDT by Little Bill (NH the Sixth Gay State.)
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To: TheThinker
"Obama*, because, like Barry Bonds, we know he isn’t deserving."

Your post reminded me of another FReeper's post:

44*

40 posted on 07/20/2009 3:45:02 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Batman11

>She did exactly what you have to do to these dopey congressman.<

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These congress critters are not dopey — they know exactly what they’re doing. They are covering their a$$es up to now.

When Obama’s ship start taking on water, that’s when they will abandon him and will all shout: “See, I told you so!” They should all go down with the ship if they had a sense of loyalty.


41 posted on 07/20/2009 3:45:05 PM PDT by 353FMG (Death is Life without Freedom.)
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To: Cicero; All
Where's the birth certificate (large billboard on Interstate 5 in Los Angeles)


42 posted on 07/20/2009 3:46:30 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: All

Linked is dear Nancy Pelosi’s certification that Obama is legally qualified to be president under the Constitution, dated Aug. 28, 2008.

http://itooktheredpill.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/ok-speaker-pelosi-how-did-the-dnc-certify-obamas-eligibility/

Perhaps we should ask Nancy again, just how she performed this handy work(?)


43 posted on 07/20/2009 3:46:36 PM PDT by Altera (See, The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality, by Jerome R. Corsi)
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To: LucyT; null and void; Polarik

ping


44 posted on 07/20/2009 3:46:39 PM PDT by stockpirate (The movement to take back America has already started, Sarah is her name.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“This means that Obama was either born twice in Hawaii, or he was not born at Queen’s Medical Center, as he claimed (or, more accurately, was reported by UPI to have claimed), in 2007 when he first announced his presidential candidacy in Springfield, Ill.”

Didn’t happen. And UPI didn’t state that in their article. The article is vague and poorly worded. Read the sentence in question and think about the different ways it could be interpreted.

It is unclear where UPI got the idea that he was born at Queens. But it wasn’t in the speech. You can find the speech on Youtube. I listened to the whole 22 minutes and didn’t hear it.


45 posted on 07/20/2009 3:50:50 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: penelopesire

>>The rally cry heard around the world!
I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!!
WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!!<<

.
Screw the world — most of its citizens are content with living in slavery by the UN, anyway. Let them.

AMERICANS WANT THEIR COUNTRY BACK!!


46 posted on 07/20/2009 3:50:53 PM PDT by 353FMG (Death is Life without Freedom.)
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To: Republic

“Larry Klayman WON for the Association of Physicians and Surgeons.......”

Wrong lawyer....

http://www.kentmbrown.com/reported_opinions.asp


47 posted on 07/20/2009 3:51:45 PM PDT by mo
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To: Little Bill
That's horrific. The clintons used the IRS as their personal body guard and harrassment vehicle.

They are and continue to be dirtbags who resent Uhbama but can do nothing about it, a just reward.

hillary's latest freak show act, telling the Hondurans to take back their arsehole of a leader who they just managed to throw out, with their highest courts approval, mind you.

So the Uhbama nutcase foreign policy reads as in...let's meddle where a would be despot was removed and DEMAND his return and let's NOT MEDDLE where thousands upon thousands of people are crying out for verbal support in a nation hard handed and cruel to its people (Iran).

We have children who are bullys running our government.

48 posted on 07/20/2009 3:57:41 PM PDT by Republic (Uhbama has sleezed and schmoozed his way through life-he is a silly little boy with inmmature dreams)
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To: NorwegianViking
Thank you NorwegianViking,

A birth certificate, a piece of paper, is tangible, and not having one in-hand may be easier to understand for those of us, and I include myself, who haven't read much about our history. Obama’s father was a British/Kenyan citizen. Our founders believed that the allegiance of ones parents provided some assurance that a child, born on US soil, both of whose parents were citizens, is more likely to have unwavering allegiance to our principles as enunciated by the Declaration, and Constitution.

Obamas Dreams from his Father were for a Muslim/Marxist government for predominantly Christian Kenya. It is our constitution, regardless of where Barak was born, which disqualifies him from being president.

There have been over two dozen attempts since the 1870s to amend Article II Section I, all failed. Obama’s legal friends (look up Sarah Herlihy in Chicago-Kent Law Review, 2005/2006) wrote many legal briefs arguing that Article II was “stupid”. Article II is a constitutional requirement which, thus far, no congress with 3/4 of the states has seen fit to change.

That is definitely harder to follow than a lack of a birth certificate. Of course, if Obama was born in Kenya or out of the US, he is not natural born, but I'm guessing he will eventually come up with some documents, and the press will claim the “Birthers” were idiots - issue settled! That is a smokescreen. Obama, assuming Obama senior was his father, is not legitimate because, as Leahy, and John Jay, and Madison, and Washington, and Clinton, and Obama said, both of his parents must be citizens. They could have been naturalized citizens; naturalized citizens often know more about the constitution than natural born citizens. But Obama’s father was not naturalized, and, from what I've read, as a Muslim and Marxist, never intended to immigrate. His dreams were for a Muslim-Marxist Kenya, perhaps not so different from those of his son for the United States.

49 posted on 07/20/2009 3:58:43 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: American Quilter

Where is Rosie O’Donnell? She is so quick to believe that steel doesn’t melt or burn or whatever, but she and her fellow starship moonbat crew refuse to see a real conspiracy right before their beady little eyes!


50 posted on 07/20/2009 4:02:33 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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