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Harlem pastor questions Obama's citizenship
Daily Voice ^ | 7/19/09 | staff

Posted on 07/20/2009 10:22:59 AM PDT by pissant

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To: RinaseaofDs

Perhaps. But blacks are exempt from such laws. How else could Jesse Jagmo, Rev. Al and Calypso Louie have “careers”?


41 posted on 07/20/2009 11:01:19 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: theFIRMbss

Well, she does have more balls than the typical GOP politician.


42 posted on 07/20/2009 11:02:14 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

It’s apparently the case, isn’t it.

I’m actually surprised that Martin Luther King didn’t get caught up by that bit of legality.


43 posted on 07/20/2009 11:03:53 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: BossLady

There is no better comedy coming out of hollywood, that’s for sure.


44 posted on 07/20/2009 11:04:36 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: chiefqc

He is right on target.


45 posted on 07/20/2009 11:09:08 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Martin Luther King was leading...whereas those mentioned above are merely pandering for cash (not called race whores for nothing).


46 posted on 07/20/2009 11:09:59 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama is "An" AntiChrist...but is he "THE" AntiChrist? The jury is still out...but just barely!)
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To: RinaseaofDs
I have a pet peeve with the use of churches as political pulpits.

I don't care where it comes from as long as people are talking about it. I think of it as a stick in zero's eye.

47 posted on 07/20/2009 11:11:50 AM PDT by Walmartian
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To: Nathan Zachary

Good question, was he ever a naturalized citizen.
His “ vault copy” could show that he was adopted by Soetoro and then would have been “ naturalized” when he went back to Hawaii at age 10 or 11.
So he would be a citizen but not a natural born citizen

Since he refuses to release his Occidental records it could also be that he attended and got aid as a foreign student.
Clearly there is something he doesn’t want seen.
I hope pressure builds over this so even his supporters can see he is hiding something
Our laws mean something and we can’t let obama thumb his nose at them


48 posted on 07/20/2009 11:21:27 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

My interpretation (given the pastor’s context)

If obama (non qualified for the presidency per Constitution) gained office falsely, then though he may appear to be “annointed”, and may even think he deserves to be regardless of (or even because of) his birth, then America will suffer and not prosper because under God, our “shield” has been defiled by his falsehood

But- open to all interpretations!


49 posted on 07/20/2009 11:26:36 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: RWGinger

another theory is that when the adopted son of Lolo Soetero (an Indonesian citizenship gained by the adoption) was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, he did nothing (nor did the adults in his life) to change his legal name back to Barack Obama, and did not restore his citizenship ... which I have read required action on his part after age 18

It appears his name became “Barack” at age 10 because he decided it would be. How embarrassing to have his entire persona turn out to be a fraud. Perhaps all his legal records, not legal because he never changed hs name...legally...and would have lied about it on legal forms, such as his Illinois law license (which like Michelle’s, was voluntarily suspended)

Sasha and Malia Soetero- not quite the same “ring” to it, is there


50 posted on 07/20/2009 11:32:53 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: RinaseaofDs

**While I’m glad more people are talking about this, I don’t think churches are places to do it.

I have a pet peeve with the use of churches as political pulpits. They should stay out of the political, or should forego their tax-exempt status.**

Well, you know what?? Churches will NEVER stay out of politics. Particularly black liberal churches. You’re basically saying that the playing field needs to stay unlevel by keeping any voice out of church that supports the conservative position.

I say let it fly. People that actually HONOR God need to speak up more and connect the dots between this evil administration and what the Word of God says.


51 posted on 07/20/2009 11:38:38 AM PDT by spacejunkie01
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To: spacejunkie01

“Churches will NEVER stay out of politics. Particularly black liberal churches. You’re basically saying that the playing field needs to stay unlevel by keeping any voice out of church that supports the conservative position.”

No, I’m not. I’m saying that I don’t care to subsidize it on either side of the aisle.

As such, tax it like any other media outlet.


52 posted on 07/20/2009 12:11:44 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs
>I have a pet peeve with the use of churches as political pulpits

I heard Noam Chomsky [!]
address this point. He didn't
like it much either

but said in today's
world there just aren't places
where people can speak

so activists speak
at churches mainly because
there are so many.

53 posted on 07/20/2009 12:50:33 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Safrguns

Pastor is a part time meteorologist on the local cable access.


54 posted on 07/20/2009 12:52:52 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport and school records.)
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To: silverleaf
But- open to all interpretations!

You're interpretation makes as much sense as any and more than most, but I sure would like to know precisely what the good reverend had in mind.

55 posted on 07/20/2009 12:53:00 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama is "An" AntiChrist...but is he "THE" AntiChrist? The jury is still out...but just barely!)
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To: RWGinger
obama is probably a citizen but he is not a natural born American
It is an important distinction

Actually the more you find out about 0boooooooomba, the less likely it appears that he is even a U.S. citizen. He traveled to Kenya, Pakistan, Indonesia as a 20 yr old, and Pakistan would not let in U.S. citizens, so it is most likely that he traveled with an Indonesian passport as an Indonesian citizen, under the nane of Barry Sotero. He registered at Occidental College in LA, under the name of Barry Sotero and as a foreign national so that he was eligible for aid as a foreign student. Somewhere between Occidental College - Columbia Univ - Harvard Univ, he changed his name from Barry Sotero to Barack Hussein Obama, and this began his scam & hidden past. By the time he was a community organizer, he just passed himself off as a U.S. citizen up through & including his scam continuation today. He was not able to get a U.S. passport until he became a senator in 2004, because he most likely is not a U.S. citizen nor does he have a U.S. birth certificate. However as a U.S. Senator he pulled strings & favors and of course the demoRATs & good ol' boys Senate green-lighted his passport and bingo, he now finally had a U.S. passport. In the spring of 2008, when the U.S. passport agency was broken into and records rifled of McCain, Hillary & Obama, only Obama's passport records were stolen, and then we find out it was a private security firm with ties from the owner to 0boooooomba that did the break-in. And finally the chief witness in the passport break-in was shot & killed by an unknown assailant (yah, right) outside his Washington D.C. residence prior to his testimony, so the break-in case has most likely just died on the vine.

So the long & short of it, is that 0booooomba is almost certainly not a natural born citizen, and most likely is not a U.S. citizen to begin with.
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56 posted on 07/20/2009 1:00:52 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: nmh

Be careful to avoid getting confused on the citizen vs natural born citizen thing.

It is required that a president is a natural born citizen. Place of birth is not the issue as much as the citizenship of 0bortion’s dad.

While 0 could have been born in Hawaii, 0 won’t show the long form b/c it would reveal that pop’s citizenship status was something other than US. Meaning 0 isn’t natural born.

And mom wasn’t of age. So even if he was born in Hawaii, he is still not natural born citizen.

When they come out w/ the BC showing he was born in Hawaii, don’t be fooled. His place of birth is meaningless. It’s his dad’s status we want to know - and the BC will provide that info.


57 posted on 07/20/2009 1:01:41 PM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: GBA

Nuts ... still not a frontal assault on the issue, then. But, hey, no such thing as bad publicity. Thanks!


58 posted on 07/20/2009 1:13:57 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: theFIRMbss

“but said in today’s
world there just aren’t places
where people can speak

so activists speak
at churches mainly because
there are so many.”

And Christ is so easily co-opted, it seems.


59 posted on 07/20/2009 1:49:52 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: rcrngroup

Obammy was born in Kenya. His grandmother says so. In Kenya they mark the village where Obammy was born, and tourists frequent the place.


60 posted on 07/20/2009 2:19:03 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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