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Obama Health Plan to Cover 12 Million Illegals
NewsMax ^ | July 19, 2009 | David A. Patten

Posted on 07/19/2009 7:42:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On Friday, Democrats moved one step closer to giving free health insurance to the nation’s estimated 12 million illegal aliens when they successfully defeated a Republican-backed amendment, offered by Rep. Dean Heller, R-Nev., that would have prevented illegal aliens from receiving government-subsidized health care under the proposed plan backed by House Democrats and President Barack Obama.

The House Ways and Means Committee nixed the Heller amendment by a 26-to-15 vote along straight party lines, and followed this action by passing the 1,018-page bill early Friday morning by a 23-to-18 margin, with three Democrats voting against the plan.

The Democratic plan will embrace Obama’s vision of bringing free government medical care to more than 45 million uninsured people in America – a significant portion of whom are illegal aliens.

According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, costs under the Obama plan being proposed by the House will saddle citizens with $1.04 trillion in new federal outlays over the next decade.

Congressional Democrats and Obama have argued that their health plan is necessary to contain rising health care costs.

But, last Thursday, CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf testified before the Senate Budget Committee and warned lawmakers that the proposed “legislation significantly expands the federal responsibility for health care costs."

A key factor increasing costs is that Democratic plan provides for blanket coverage to as much as 15 percent of the U.S. population not currently insured, including illegals.

Democrats had insisted throughout the health-care reform debate that illegals would be ineligible for the so-called public option plan that is to be subsidized by taxpayers.

"We're not going to cover undocumented aliens, undocumented workers," Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, told reporters in May. "That's too politically explosive."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; aliens; amnesty; bho2009; bho44; congress; democrats; healthcare; illegalaliens; illegalimmigrants; illegals; immigrantlist; obama; obamacare; reconquista; socializedmedicine; wakeupamerica
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Wonderful! Just when you thought things couldn't get worse...
1 posted on 07/19/2009 7:42:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

12 million LOL


2 posted on 07/19/2009 7:42:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
defeated a Republican-backed amendment, offered by Rep. Dean Heller, R-Nev., that would have prevented illegal aliens from receiving government-subsidized health care under the proposed plan

3 posted on 07/19/2009 7:43:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
More and more unconstitutional power grabbing with the intent of destroying America as we have known it.

We are at a pivotal crossroads in our nation's history. A very steep, very hard and dangerous roads leads one way...an abject fatal precipice leads the other.

A PETITION FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

A JULY 4TH TEA PARTY SPEECH IN AMERICA

WHEN TRUTH BECOMES TREASON

4 posted on 07/19/2009 7:45:18 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: cripplecreek

“12 million LOL”

It’s been 12 million for 9 years...try 22 million!


5 posted on 07/19/2009 7:45:45 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

At least.


6 posted on 07/19/2009 7:48:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

this democrat controlled congress is a disgrace. Why would anybody give our country away like this other than persons with blind political ambitions. They should be removed from office. They must be voted out. 2010 should be the battle cry. Take our country back 2010.


7 posted on 07/19/2009 7:49:15 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“The Democratic plan will embrace Obama’s vision of bringing free government medical care to more than 45 million uninsured people in America – a significant portion of whom are illegal aliens.”

free...government...health care....

unbelievable.


8 posted on 07/19/2009 7:49:56 PM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: cripplecreek

They’re still using the 12 million number...What a sad joke.


9 posted on 07/19/2009 7:50:46 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I was at my local library and heard a senior citizen lady railing against the illegals getting coverage, how everybody at her senior center was against it. I thought, way to go, Ma'am. Stay informed.
10 posted on 07/19/2009 7:51:30 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Color me red, white and blue - I attended a tea party on July 4th.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe he will explain how he will expand the number of doctors to meet the new demand.


11 posted on 07/19/2009 7:52:51 PM PDT by Steely Tom (RKBA: last line of defense against vote fraud)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
It’s been 12 million for 9 years...try 22 million!

Thank you...Every time we see the Fedgov parade around that number....Well, it just proves once again how corrupt the Feds have become. Even the restrained idiots don't buy that BS.

12 posted on 07/19/2009 7:53:49 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This isn’t the half of it. The “judges” in the federal courts are chomping at the bit to be the first one to decide that it is “unconstituonal” to deny free healthcare to anyone regardless of their citizenship. Freeloaders will be coming here from all over the world for their healthcare.


13 posted on 07/19/2009 7:54:59 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (WWTHD - What Would The Hondurans Do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

...and they won’t have to pay for it...


14 posted on 07/19/2009 7:57:05 PM PDT by television is just wrong (one bad ass mistake America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: y6162

How soon can we find out what insurance carriers are underwriting this insurance ? I want to be first in ine to invest. Well, maybe 2nd in line behind Obama. They are the ones to show a profit from this farce. Especially when Obama legalizes 22 million aliens. Those insurance carriers will be the ones directing our senators and congressmen how to vote. “Vote YES or lose your condo in Telluride, numbered account in Luxembourg, membership to Pebble Beach, ect.” ...............


15 posted on 07/19/2009 7:58:02 PM PDT by winged1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where does this 12 million number come from?? must be California by itself! Better try 35-40 Million.


16 posted on 07/19/2009 8:00:01 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: SunkenCiv; All

The Terry Anderson Show...

Tonight Terry will feature Ted Hilton..

Ted thinks we should stop the illegal aliens from invading our country...

What do you think ??? Agree ??? Disagree ???

Call Terry and tell him what you think...

Call Terry LIVE 9-10 PM PST at (866) 870-57521

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17 posted on 07/19/2009 8:00:27 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: television is just wrong
this is more than mere incompetence.

this is deliberate

18 posted on 07/19/2009 8:01:07 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Sad to think the Free World's Leader is propped up by 2 square pieces of reflective glass on stands)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will the last person out of Mexico please turn out the lights?


19 posted on 07/19/2009 8:01:08 PM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

20 posted on 07/19/2009 8:01:58 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Hey TN

Welcome to the world of California
We have been giving major health care to millions
of illegals for years at CAlifornia Tax Payer expense.

Other states get to pitch in now.


21 posted on 07/19/2009 8:03:37 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Like Space Invaders, it ain’t over until the aliens win.


22 posted on 07/19/2009 8:04:13 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WHY? I am completely baffled why congress would do this. Sure, there’s the whole bit about vote buying, but for GOD’S SAKE, what about integri...

NEVERMIND.

SCREW THESE THEIVES. I REFUSE TO COOPERATE.


23 posted on 07/19/2009 8:04:23 PM PDT by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is all coordinated. The next step will be...amnesty for these illegals, who he hopes will vote for the Dems next year (and they probably will)


24 posted on 07/19/2009 8:04:37 PM PDT by Hammer Tym (Semper Fidelis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

25 posted on 07/19/2009 8:04:54 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When does America rise up and say ENOUGH!!


26 posted on 07/19/2009 8:06:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: shankbear
Why would anybody give our country away like this other than persons with blind political ambitions. They should be removed from office.

Because they were voted in by the People.

Because they've been trying to pass this since World War II.

Because feckless Republicans agreed it was "his turn", when they seated the hapless hamburger Denny Hastert in the Speaker's chair, from which he presided over Republican scandal after Republican scandal.

Remember, he was told about Mark Foley long before the homosexual cabal fed the scandal to their 'Ratmedia friends. He knew about the bridge to nowhere, and Contract term-limits pledgers who went back on their pledges, and guys who were taking money under the table.

The responsibility of leadership is to lead. Hastert and the pussywillows in the RNC didn't lead -- some because they're gay, some because their big-money sponsors have money on the other side and are telling them to keep their heads down, some because they're Bohemian Club fellows-well-met and know that if it rains in America, it rains on somebody else.

27 posted on 07/19/2009 8:07:27 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, see post 21

and they wonder why our state is broke.


28 posted on 07/19/2009 8:08:33 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any Republican who votes for this preposterous outrage to American freedom should be run out of town on a rail! Democrats too, but none have the stones to vote against their master.


29 posted on 07/19/2009 8:08:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: shankbear
They must be voted out.

Or forced out.

30 posted on 07/19/2009 8:09:09 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Cheetahcat
Where does this 12 million number come from?? must be California by itself! Better try 35-40 Million.

The back of my old scratchpad says 30-33 million. I got that by comparing Texas census numbers and local estimates for Houston and Big D, with what the Census was saying was the actual number of illegals in the state, which was pure bullsqueeze.

Extrapolating to the rest of the country, figuring Congress or Clinton had told the Census to lie proportionately, I got the 30-33 million number.

31 posted on 07/19/2009 8:11:37 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bump, for later read


32 posted on 07/19/2009 8:13:37 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: SoCalPol

We’ve been paying in TN too...

Not as much though...

Our TN government has passed great strong legislature to stop freebies to anyone over the age of 18 who cant proven citizenship but our liberal (D) gov vetoes them...

Good luck with yours


33 posted on 07/19/2009 8:17:17 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: lentulusgracchus

The Bostonians Paying the Excise-Man, 1774 British propaganda print depicting the tarring and feathering of Boston Commissioner of Customs John Malcolm. This was the second time Malcolm had been tarred and feathered.

34 posted on 07/19/2009 8:17:30 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Maybe it means the other 10 million plus will just continue to get free medical care at the local ER as they’ve always done.


35 posted on 07/19/2009 8:19:32 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I really never thought of myself as prejudiced until just a short time ago. It just keeps getting worse.


36 posted on 07/19/2009 8:20:31 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


37 posted on 07/19/2009 8:22:18 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: lentulusgracchus
"The back of my old scratchpad says 30-33 million. I got that by comparing Texas census numbers and local estimates for Houston and Big D, with what the Census was saying was the actual number of illegals in the state, which was pure bullsqueeze."

Extrapolating to the rest of the country, figuring Congress or Clinton had told the Census to lie proportionately, I got the 30-33 million number.

The number has to be in the 30’s I was keeping a running score but stopped back in the Amnesty days there was a lot of state info going around.

38 posted on 07/19/2009 8:22:49 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: y6162

We gotta stop this neo-fascist loon.


39 posted on 07/19/2009 8:24:14 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Steely Tom

Particularly after a bunch of us old ones walk away when Obamacare is initiated. I know how they will expand the pool of doctors - good luck finding one that speaks English!


40 posted on 07/19/2009 8:25:16 PM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Failure!


41 posted on 07/19/2009 8:29:01 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“When does America rise up and say ENOUGH!!”

THEY WONT!!!!! Look how much shit has been slung in their faces already and they still won’t get off their complacent asses. They read what’s happening, and then back out of the driveway and squeal the tires in a fit of rage.....on the way to the mall, movies, baseball game, etc etc. They are just as big of pussies as their republicrats in office are.


42 posted on 07/19/2009 8:31:02 PM PDT by Slimey
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The criminals in Washington have long past the point of outright treason.


43 posted on 07/19/2009 8:35:37 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Jim Robinson; 2ndDivisionVet

The fact is, we cannot wait 3 more years. America won’t survive that long if Obama continues like the first 6 months. Obama must be forced to step down, or be impeached. Our job is to figure out how to legally accomplish this. What really hurts is I think Obama is a bully/coward. If the GOP would just stand up and fight, this judas goat would back off.


44 posted on 07/19/2009 8:37:10 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: shankbear

“this democrat controlled congress is a disgrace. Why would anybody give our country away like this other than persons with blind political ambitions.”

Methinks you answered your own question ;-)


45 posted on 07/19/2009 8:39:28 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Heck, here in California, we already give “undocumented” students free education, free breakfast and lunch, free pre-natal care, and free daycare once they have the baby until they finish school. There are more pregnant young girls in our high school than you can believe.

Republicans better come up with a practical plan for health care that will work and sell it to the people quickly.


46 posted on 07/19/2009 8:40:09 PM PDT by Melian ("Now, Y'all without sin can cast the first stone." ~H.I. McDunnough)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They already do that now...


47 posted on 07/19/2009 8:42:23 PM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd,you get no further than the crowd")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


48 posted on 07/19/2009 8:56:46 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If they do; they are so over with.


49 posted on 07/19/2009 8:58:38 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Harrius Magnus; mojitojoe; Pelham; mom2twinsn2; LongLiveTheRepublic; ...
The Peter Schiff/Redistribution Watch Ping. (Washington Bankrupting our Nation by Spending your past, present and future money!)

After seeing Hillary-care go down in 1994 I figured we had two magic bullets this time , 1) Abortion and 2) Illegal Immigrants. Our best friend is Pelosi and her liberal nutcases. She screwed up the stimulus bill, and now this bill for democrats. But now the wind has changed. This is democrats Stalingrad, the beginning of the end. The trick is to covertly keep progressives on the single payer socialist dream. Ever see Ed Shulz on MSNBC 6pm EST?? He rips the dems daily for getting weak knee-ed on single payer. Last week he said the democrats need a third party if they cant pass this House crap.

50 posted on 07/19/2009 9:02:36 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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