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Commerce Secretary: America needs to pay for China’s emissions
Hot Air ^ | July 19, 2009 | ED MORRISSEY

Posted on 07/19/2009 9:24:51 AM PDT by RobinMasters

It’s bad enough that the Obama administration wants to penalize all Americans for their energy use through the cap-and-tax scheme that will hobble our economy and hike electricity and gas costs, but until now they only proposed to penalize us for our own energy use.

With China refusing to join the West in economic suicide, who will pay for their emissions ? Commerce Secretary says that the American consumer is to blame for China’s energy-production emissions — and we’ll pay for that instead of the Chinese :

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; bho44; capandtrade; china; duncanhunter; freetrade; globalwarming; mostfavorednation; obama; socialism; trade

1 posted on 07/19/2009 9:24:51 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

So, the Chinese are looking out for the Chines, and our commerce secretary is looking out for the Chinese. Who is representing OUR interests?


2 posted on 07/19/2009 9:26:58 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: RobinMasters

Troops abroad for this, eh?


3 posted on 07/19/2009 9:27:33 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: La Lydia

Good then let’s stop importing ANYTHING form these SOBs and see where they are then...within months there will be billions killed there rioting...wheather they are successful or not...who cares! our debt to them will be liquidated and then we start over here...with new leaders of course to begin anew


4 posted on 07/19/2009 9:31:11 AM PDT by ldish (Looking forward to Independence Day)
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To: RobinMasters

Commerce Secretary Gary Locke said something amazing—U.S. consumers should pay for part of Chinese greenhouse-gas emissions. From Reuters:
“It’s important that those who consume the products being made all around the world to the benefit of America — and it’s our own consumption activity that’s causing the emission of greenhouse gases, then quite frankly Americans need to pay for that,” Commerce Secretary Gary Locke told the American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai.
The idea that rich-country consumers should pick up the tab for some of China’s industrial emissions has been gaining currency lately—but not from within the Obama administration. The argument is that many of China’s factories churn out cheap stuff for the West, not for domestic consumption, so those consumers are actually responsible for the emissions. China, of course, loves the idea.

“Secretary Locke has been very clear on emphasizing the importance of fair trade as a part of the United States’ relationship with China. He believes U.S. companies should not be disadvantaged by Chinese imports not bound by responsible policies to reduce carbon emissions. China and the US must work together to ensure a level playing field and reduce our carbon footprints. The Secretary’s trip to China demonstrated his commitment to fair trade and his belief that both the United States and China can benefit from shared investments and cooperation in clean energy that will lead to commercial and environmental benefits for both countries.”

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GET READY FOR ANOTHER TAX!

An IMPORT TAX since we can’t afford to manufacture in the U.S. and China produces cheap goods, what other choice will they have? TAX imports from China!


5 posted on 07/19/2009 9:31:40 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: La Lydia

“OUR” Commerce Secretary IS....Chinese...American....and a fool....and former governor of WA State.


6 posted on 07/19/2009 9:31:41 AM PDT by goodnesswins (WHO is Jim Thompson?)
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To: RobinMasters

“...the American consumer is to blame for China’s energy-production emissions — and we’ll pay for that instead of the Chinese...”

I don’t think so.


7 posted on 07/19/2009 9:33:07 AM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: ldish

Sure you want that?

“The other option would be energy-production tariffs on imported goods, which would touch off a trade war with China. That would make goods more expensive in the US at the same time energy bills begin to skyrocket, launching an inflationary spiral and begging China for retaliation. Since China holds a large amount of US debt, that retaliation could get extremely expensive for both countries.”

You are screwed either way!


8 posted on 07/19/2009 9:34:34 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: RobinMasters

I think the Chinese basically own us, don’t they? I think we owe them a few trillion.... at last count. They love the smell of blackmail in the morning.


9 posted on 07/19/2009 9:34:49 AM PDT by BigFinn (Obamanation then Obamaggedon.)
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To: RobinMasters
Exsqueeze me?

No... I don't think so. I'll stop paying my taxes before I start paying for our own "Cap and Tax" system long before they get me to try and pay China's as well...

10 posted on 07/19/2009 9:34:59 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: RobinMasters

It would be far, far cheaper just to pay the democrats whatever the Chinese are paying them in bribes.

For example, just pay Commerce Secretary Gary Locke $50,000,000 in cash just to stop destroying the United States.


11 posted on 07/19/2009 9:37:51 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: RobinMasters
BTW if the U.S.imposes steep tariffs on imports ...

I wonder ...

where will the money go to?

ACORN?

12 posted on 07/19/2009 9:37:59 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: RobinMasters

It is very simple. In 0bama’s hope and change America 11% unemployment and 58% tax levels for those lucky to have a job will be the norm.

Gasoline and small screen televisions will be luxury products.


13 posted on 07/19/2009 9:38:22 AM PDT by A message (3 years 6 months until Jim Thompson is President)
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To: RobinMasters

Things are starting to get out of hand. If the GOP doesn’t stand up to this crap, then Obama’s dream of a one-world government (with himself at the leader, of course) will come to fruition.


14 posted on 07/19/2009 9:39:25 AM PDT by Bobkk47
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To: RobinMasters

http://www.thehopeforamerica.com/play.php?id=1501

The Global Warming Hoax


15 posted on 07/19/2009 9:40:11 AM PDT by roses of sharon (It is not actual suffering but a taste of better things which excites people to revolt: Hoffer)
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To: RobinMasters
I'd like the Commerce Secretary to convey my apologies to the Chinese. As a child I was responsible for all the starving children in China by not wanting to eat my vegetables and now as an adult and a consumer, I'm responsible for China's meaningless CO2 emissions.

Perhaps Mr. Secretary, the US should stop importing goods from China. That way, their factories will stop spewing that evil CO2. Of course, that will lead to unemployment there......and poverty..............and starving children...................

16 posted on 07/19/2009 9:40:57 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: RobinMasters

Say, isn’t the “Commerce Secretary” supposed to STIMULATE U.S. COMMERCE, NOT DESTROY IT?

Oh, I forgot this was the virulently anti-American Obama Regime. Foolish me.


17 posted on 07/19/2009 9:41:25 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: RobinMasters

CRAP & TRADE is not about ‘clean air’ it’s about POWER of the Federal government to select which business is worthy of surviving!


18 posted on 07/19/2009 9:44:19 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: RobinMasters

Let me guess- we’ll pay for it by paying more for Chinese products? There’s a tax I know how to avoid.


19 posted on 07/19/2009 9:55:35 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: RobinMasters

THis is BULL$$hit,

They should have their own EPA, and have the individual industries put their own scrubbers on and attach the costs to the products sold... then ultimately, the consumer pays. Whether Russian, German, french , african , mideastern or Asian....


20 posted on 07/19/2009 9:57:53 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: RobinMasters
America needs to pay for China’s emissions

Nocturnal???

21 posted on 07/19/2009 9:58:08 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I want to see Totus's birth certificate...or at least date of manufacture.)
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To: kcvl
CRAP & TRADE is not about ‘clean air’ it’s about POWER of the Federal government to select which business is worthy of surviving!

That's easy. It'll be the ones that pay their protection money (I mean "campaign contributions") and keep the politicians' palms greased.

22 posted on 07/19/2009 10:29:46 AM PDT by MCH
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To: MCH

Exactly!

You see how well the unions came out in the GM deal! The investors got screwed, BIG TIME.

Welcome to the new USSA. (United States Socialist America)


23 posted on 07/19/2009 10:42:22 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: RobinMasters

I think it’s about time to march on Washington with pitchforks and torches.


24 posted on 07/19/2009 11:01:05 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: RobinMasters

Do these people really believe what they are saying?


25 posted on 07/19/2009 11:29:42 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: nmh

THE TIME HAS COME FOR A MARCH ON WASHINGTON!!!! The folks in power hate America and are doing everything they can to tear us down. Note Hillary, while in India said the US is responsible for global warming! These people are nuts!


26 posted on 07/19/2009 11:39:20 AM PDT by kenmcg (THE)
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To: RobinMasters

blow it out your butt.


27 posted on 07/19/2009 11:54:29 AM PDT by The Wizard (Democrat Party: a criminal enterprise)
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To: La Lydia

They have a good man here in our Secretary and also they own Taiwan; it’s a race thing, you see. The Han racism is a gooood racism, over thousands of years. Ask all the crushed and absorbed peoples.


28 posted on 07/19/2009 12:03:22 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; dennisw; AuntB; FromLori; sickoflibs; JACKRUSSELL; April Lexington; ...

Let’s see how this would work: We would pay for China’s pollution, but since we don’t have money, we will borrow from China to pay for it!


29 posted on 07/21/2009 12:37:15 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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To: RobinMasters

I can’t believe that I work under this idiot.


30 posted on 07/21/2009 12:38:38 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

RE:”Let’s see how this would work: We would pay for China’s pollution, but since we don’t have money, we will borrow from China to pay for it!’

Thanks for the ping, priceless


31 posted on 07/21/2009 12:53:51 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: roses of sharon

Great video. Proves global warming is a hoax.


32 posted on 07/21/2009 1:11:45 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: sickoflibs

It’s not clear to me where the money collected to pay the pollution “fines” would go. Maybe it would all go to develop “green” industries in countries like... I don’t know, say China?


33 posted on 07/21/2009 1:23:29 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Commerce Secretary Gary Locke .....

This clown is Chinese-American and made those remarks in Shanghai to his ChiCom masters. The gonads on this guy!! To talk this way over there. He should stay in China...DON’T COME BACK!


34 posted on 07/21/2009 1:23:30 PM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: RobinMasters

Surely you have the wrong source cited.

This has to be from ScrappleFace.


35 posted on 07/21/2009 1:33:30 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not criminals, foreign/domestic terrorists, or tax cheats?)
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36 posted on 07/21/2009 1:36:54 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

This sounds like a tariff which would possible violate a trade treaty and hurt China imports. But it is under the superior goal of combating Climate change.

Yes it would go to US government green jobs like Cap and trade.


37 posted on 07/21/2009 1:45:45 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: AmericanVictory

Gary Locke is Chinese and showing his real loyalty is to his ancestral homeland. Not to America and our industries. We should just adopt crap n trade which will kill our industry which China will gain....and then we pay for Chinese pollution generated making what we made here? This is treason


38 posted on 07/21/2009 1:46:06 PM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“Let’s see how this would work: We would pay for China’s pollution, but since we don’t have money, we will borrow from China to pay for it!”

ROTFLMAO!!


39 posted on 07/21/2009 1:46:06 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: RobinMasters
Commerce Secretary says that the American consumer is to blame for China’s energy-production emissions — and we’ll pay for that instead of the Chinese : .

Really Simple....just negate ALL imports from China. Cease all trade. Hence this country cannot be held for any Chinese construction/manufacturing/production CO2 emissions. ;)

40 posted on 07/21/2009 1:53:29 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: RobinMasters

This may not be such a bad idea.

Place a 25% surcharge on all goods manufactured in China and use the money to build nuclear power plants here in the US


41 posted on 07/21/2009 2:01:34 PM PDT by grjr21
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To: sickoflibs
This sounds like a tariff which would possible violate a trade treaty and hurt China imports.

Wouldn't be the first treaty Obama broke.

Yes it would go to US government green jobs like Cap and trade.

Or if you think like Locke, the money would go to jobs in China.

42 posted on 07/21/2009 2:19:01 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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To: RobinMasters

Of the many things this administration has said or attempted that infuriate me, this is the worst.

Let’s see...China has no labor laws, no environmental laws so therefore their pollution costs should be borne by...Americans.

I really, really can’t say what I want to here


43 posted on 07/21/2009 2:39:51 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

RE :”Or if you think like Locke, the money would go to jobs in China. “

Anything is possible but I guessed they are lying to China too,


44 posted on 07/21/2009 5:34:02 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: nmh

The insaniacs have truly taken over the Asylum.

I want our country back!


45 posted on 07/22/2009 5:25:06 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

So do I!
ASAP!


46 posted on 07/22/2009 9:33:15 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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