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Eagle Scout Lost on Mountain Fined $25,000 for Rescue
AP via Fox ^ | 7/17/09

Posted on 07/17/2009 5:19:18 PM PDT by Jean S

CONCORD, N.H. —  A Massachusetts teenager who spent three nights alone on Mount Washington in April after he sprained an ankle and veered off marked trails has been fined more than $25,000 for the cost of his rescue.

Scott Mason had been praised for utilizing his Eagle Scout skills — sleeping in the crevice of a boulder and jump-starting fires with hand sanitzer gel. But authorities say he wasn't prepared for the conditions he encountered and shouldn't have set out on such an ambitious hike.

"Yes, he'd been out there in July when you could step across the brooks. And people have been out there in winter in hard-packed snow. But with these spring conditions, it was soft snow, it was deep snow," said Fish and Game Maj. Tim Acerno.

Acerno said he believes Mason's fine is the largest ever sought under a 9-year-old New Hampshire law that allows lost hikers and climbers to be charged for rescue costs. Mason's rescue was particularly expensive because the helicopters the state typically used were unavailable, and a helicopter from Maine had to be brought in, Acerno said.

Mason, 17, of Halifax, Mass., had planned to spend one day hiking 17 miles in the New Hampshire mountains but ended up lost after he hurt his ankle and decided to take a shortcut. The shortcut led him into rising water and deep snow caused by unseasonably warm weather.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; eaglescout; rescue

1 posted on 07/17/2009 5:19:18 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S

Stupidity hurts, in more way than one.


2 posted on 07/17/2009 5:22:24 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (What are you and who do you want?)
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To: Jean S
The sad thing about this case is that they found him hiking out.

He never called for help, he did fine - just as you would expect of an Eagle.

We get morons all the time up here who hike in at 2pm after they wake their lazy asses up, realize they have no light after it's dark, and call for help on their cell phones.

THEY don't get charged - making an example of this admirable young man is hard to understand.

3 posted on 07/17/2009 5:26:33 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: Jean S

Does a hiker have the option to decline to be rescued?

Or is it like all government programs, the gun is put to the head?


4 posted on 07/17/2009 5:26:34 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries for the American farmer.)
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To: Jean S

If he had been gay instead of a Scout; no problem, no fine.


5 posted on 07/17/2009 5:27:43 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Rodebrecht

In Colorado, if you purchase a fishing licenses, you also get an insurance policy for any search and rescue efforts. You can even purchase one separately (CORSAR card) for $3/year or $12 for 5 years. It is a great deal for anyone going out into the woods for any reason.


6 posted on 07/17/2009 5:38:23 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

See, the free market can solve these things. Although, in CO’s case, it’s the government. But this could be adopted by a private company.


7 posted on 07/17/2009 5:41:45 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (What are you and who do you want?)
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To: Jean S

Do the asshats who get stuck on mountainsides while purposely climbing them ever get fined?


8 posted on 07/17/2009 5:42:04 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Jean S
Wellllll.....if you put yourself in a position where it costs a lot of money to rescue you, why shouldn't you have to pay at least a portion of the rescue costs?

In Arizona we have the Stupid Driver Law.

If you decide that you should drive through a wash during a flash flood, and get swept downstream, you get to pay for your rescue.

Gotta have some kind of deterrent.

Unless you are an illegal with no money. Then you get a free pass.

9 posted on 07/17/2009 5:44:07 PM PDT by FlyVet (C)
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To: Jim Noble

From one article it’s tough to get all the facts but if neither him nor his family called for help they will win on the challenge that they have until August 9th to issue. $25,000 seems rather excessive for a few people to go into the woods to get him. It seems like much more of a fine than the actual cost.

There are similar cases where drunk adventurers get lost and ask for help. In those cases 100%, they should pay for at least some of the cost of rescue. It’s good capitalist sense.


10 posted on 07/17/2009 5:44:34 PM PDT by ActrFshr
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To: Rodebrecht

how do you make a fire with handgel?


11 posted on 07/17/2009 5:46:04 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Mac Conchradha - "Skeagh mac en chroe"- Skaghvicencrowe)
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To: MissDairyGoodnessVT
how do you make a fire with handgel?

Try putting some Purel on your hand and lighting it. You'll be shaking your hand vigorously in about 3 seconds as the blue flame engulfs your hand. I lost all the hair on my hand once on a bet. Won't do that again (drink while using Purel, that is).

12 posted on 07/17/2009 5:49:13 PM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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To: Jim Noble
The sad thing about this case is that they found him hiking out.

I may be reading too much into this, but maybe they're just really po'd because he didn't need their help. They all showed up in their he-man suits, uninvited, and probably felt a little foolish.

13 posted on 07/17/2009 5:49:53 PM PDT by tbpiper (How would you define a 'domestic enemy of the constitution'?)
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To: Jim Noble
The sad thing about this case is that they found him hiking out.

A law that sounds like a real good idea at the time invariably ends up being a revenue source for bureaucrats.

I hope the kid fights and wins.

14 posted on 07/17/2009 5:52:27 PM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: Rodebrecht
Stupidity hurts, in more way than one.

Fining teenagers $25,000 for something as harmless (and yes, perhaps foolish) as hiking in a risky area strikes me as something we don't want to do. Is this zero-tolerance for adolescence?

I'm sorry to say that I'm not altogether surprised at the number of Freepers posting who think this is perfectly sensible.

15 posted on 07/17/2009 5:53:11 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: Jean S
Well he got fined, but on the bright side at least being a citizen of Massachusetts he has Romneycare to save him all that money on his medical bills...
16 posted on 07/17/2009 6:01:47 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (There's something socialist in the neighborhood, who ya gonna call? MITTBUSTERS!)
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To: BfloGuy

What this means is that if someone gets lost in that state, they will delay or refuse to call for help, knowing they will be penalized for doing so.

(Real progress...)


17 posted on 07/17/2009 6:03:11 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: MissDairyGoodnessVT

He didn’t make fire with the hand gel, he used it to fuel a fire he already started.


18 posted on 07/17/2009 6:05:23 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (What are you and who do you want?)
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To: BfloGuy

Don’t expect me to foot the bill for your harmless mistake.


19 posted on 07/17/2009 6:08:21 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (What are you and who do you want?)
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To: FlyVet
Wellllll.....if you put yourself in a position where it costs a lot of money to rescue you, why shouldn't you have to pay at least a portion of the rescue costs?

Ya know, I might agree with you if we weren't drying out useless pieces of crap every time they drop some bad acid and are declared indigent.

I'd rather pay the freight to pull an injured Eagle Scout out of the woods than send some POS back to a publicly funded methadone clinic for the umteenth time.

20 posted on 07/17/2009 6:41:09 PM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (We seem to have reached a critical mass of stupid people.)
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To: taxcontrol

Colorado Hunters pay a $0.25 for a search and rescue fee on the hunting licenses. It is good for the entire year, so if you have to get rescued the rescue effort and cost is reimbursed thru the Colorado division of wildlife. My take on this kid is he needed rescuing and they needed the practice, so why the $ 25,000.00 Fine?


21 posted on 07/17/2009 6:47:04 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: Jean S

I shudder to contemplate the cost of rescuing America from the chaos and calamity caused by Obama....

Since a majority of the sheeple in the U.S. voted for the *&^%*&% — they should be charged heavily and painfully for their ignorant and calamitous action..

The guillotine sounds about right....


22 posted on 07/17/2009 6:48:37 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Jean S

More info at this link:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518417,00.html

After Mason sprained his ankle he did turn around and headed back down the mountain on an emergency exit trail he had preplanned with the help of the the staff at the local Appalachian Mountain Club lodge where he began his hike.
The information they had was that the trail was clear but he found the trail was blocked by snow so he had to reverse course again and head back up the mountain.

He wasn’t lost - he knew exactly where he was all the time.

He saw the helicopter on his way back up the mountain and tried to attract their attention but they were looking elsewhere.

So he continued his hike up the mountain on his way to an observatory where he knew he would find assistance.
Before he reached the observatory he and a search team came upon each other.


23 posted on 07/17/2009 8:13:23 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If you cannot be a good example you can serve as horrible warning - like Obama.)
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To: Jean S
The shortcut led him into rising water and deep snow caused by unseasonably warm weather.

I'm not sure how "unseaonably warm weather" caused "deep snow".

24 posted on 07/17/2009 9:53:35 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Jim Noble

If he didn’t ask for help, there should be no way the state or anybody else can charge him for it.

But it’s a great racket, just run around “helping” people and then charge them. See some woman crossing the street? Grab her bags, run to the other side, and when she catches up, tell her that will be $5.


25 posted on 07/17/2009 9:54:56 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Jean S
What can a kid make an hour at 17 years old maybe $10 an hour. By the time he pays taxes and FICA he gets $8 an hour. We're up to $320 a week in after tax wages. Lets not forget meals also. $3 for breakfast, $5 for lunch, and $6 for dinner. That's another $14 a day for food or $98 a week for food because you eat 7 days a week. Of course he could beg for food.

Let's leave out any clothing, entertaining, transportation and dental. Hey the kid sprained his ankle piss on him. Moving along where are we now yes $222 a week after expenses. He's got a bum leg - tough shouldn't have twisted the ankle, right. So $222 a week income and $25,000 to pay off that's 112.6 weeks of work or 2.25 years.

That sounds reasonable to me. What a hell of a deal. No college for you butthead. This little stunt cost you your future. Eagle Scout my ass. In the meanwhile the banksters have stolen about $15,000,000,000,000 to pay off their losses (that's $15 trillion dollars) and no one is sending them a bill.

If we want to save money we aren't going to do it on the weakest members of society.

26 posted on 07/17/2009 11:40:17 PM PDT by Alex Kida
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To: Iron Munro
In a nutshell, not lost. On his way to help. Had preplanned secondary route with help from locals who did not know of snow blocking the trail. IOW, he was gittin' 'er done, and in a little time would have effected his own 'rescue', overdue, but okay.

How much did they bill that global warming expedition that had to be rescued? (Poor planning, and in real trouble?)

27 posted on 07/18/2009 12:04:24 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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