Teen 'eggs' cruiser, flees at 100 mph

Lancasteronline.com ^ | 7/17/09 | Ryan Robinson

[Born Conservative]

An 18-year-old Willow Street man found out early Thursday that throwing an egg at a police cruiser — especially while the officer is in it — is not such a good idea.

Nor is driving over 100 mph to try to get away from the officer.

The incident began about 1 a.m. in the square of Strasburg Borough, police said.

A state policeman driving south on Route 896 was passed by a northbound car when he heard something strike the door on the driver's side of his car, police said.

He turned around and pursued the car, but the driver, later identified as Daniel Scott Barr of 343 Nolt Ave., Willow Street, sped away and refused to pull over, police said.

Barr drove above 100 mph during the pursuit, police said. He went north on Route 896 and turned onto Bachmantown Road in East Lampeter Township.

After an 1.8-mile chase, police were able to get Barr to stop his car along Bachmantown Road, police said.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Egghead.

[pnh102]

This guy deserves the Rodney King treatment just on principle.

[P-Marlowe]

Is this kid a congressman?

[mt tom]

if al franken can be a senator this kid is a show in for a congressman

[Birdsbane]

Institutional Vandalism?

[razorback-bert]

I think Daniel needs glasses or to do less drugs, if he can’t tell a cop car from an ordinary car.

[VRWCmember]

The incident began about 1 a.m. in the square of Strasburg Borough,

Nothing that begins at 1 AM ever ends well.

[101voodoo]

Punishment should be for this fool to wash and wax every single police cruiser within a 50 mile radius of where he threw this egg.

[jiggyboy]

This moron should try egging a buggy next time instead.

[101voodoo]

"Nothing that begins at 1 AM ever ends well."

I remember meeting women after 1 a.m. (long, long ago) in my favorite hangout. These ended up quite nicely.

[theFIRMbss]

>Nothing that begins at 1 AM ever ends well

You're supposed to wait
till the cop is parked, then chain
the cop's back axle

to a post before
egging him and driving off.
I think Mythbusters

said it doesn't work
but it would be kind of cool
if, by chance, it worked . . .

[halfright]

The dipstick tossed an egg at a oncoming car. I would venture the PSP car was an unmarked unit. Surprise!

As was mentioned...nothing good ever happens on the street or in the bars at 1 am.

[DCBurgess58]

The egg that hit the police car chipped its paint, police said.

Yeah... Right... It probably also dented the door and the cop smashed his head against the driver side window as the cruiser rocked under the massive impact. All of this obviously required a 100 MPH chase. The good citizens must realise that the potential fatal car crashes that they were subjected to, were justified. We cannot, as a society, allow punks to be running around with this kind of heavy artillery.

Heavy weaponry notwithstanding, we must realise that when a policeman is insulted or mocked, an angel dies somewhere. The fact that innocent civillians might have died in a flaming hell of twisted metal is insignificant , as long as the result is a car full of teens in handcuffs, having to call their parents.

Jeez... this cop was such an assclown, he should be patroling the station from a desk from now on.

[VRWCmember]

You could also try the bananan in the tailpipe. It worked for Eddie Murphy in Beverly Hills Cop.

[ErnBatavia]

Nothing that begins at 1 AM ever ends well.

That's as true as "Never look for lodging on a city's Martin Luther King Blvd."

[Born Conservative]

I doubt that there are many buggies travelling the highway at 1am...

[C210N]

This is a nice diversion with a decent ending (guy caught). Back to the eggheads throwing eggs at the constitution, health care, auto industry, banking industry, energy industry,... well, basically all of America as we know it. I hope all that juvenile egg tossing will have a similar epilogue!

[jessduntno]

Hey, if you can hit a flee at 100 MPH, good for you!

[NavyCanDo]

Between age 15 and 20, something happens to a boys brain that can make them do some of the dumbest stuff. I think most of us can list a few stupid acts we performed back then. I would be embarrassed to go into confession myself right here, so won't. If you were like most boys, it was just a moronic moment of stupidity, and you didn't end up on an episode of COPS. A small percentage of those same boys though, don't wise up, and these moronic moments will continue into their adult lives, if they don't end up dead or behind bars. For the rest they become Democrats.

[Albion Wilde]

A small percentage of those same boys though, don't wise up, and these moronic moments will continue into their adult lives, if they don't end up dead or behind bars. For the rest they become Democrats.

Or first husbands.

[PissAndVinegar]

wait...
1.8 M / 100 MPH = 0.018 Hours

Or 1.08 seconds...

Wow! That’s an OJ-esque chase! /sarc

(is my math right...a 1 second chase, really?)

[hiredhand]

No...no...no... NOT the axle... But rather the control arm under the ball joint at any wheel. The axle is supported too well! But the control arm is much weaker and will disconnect at either the ball joint, or either bushing holding it to the frame.

[PissAndVinegar]

Ok - no that’s a 1 minute chase...that’s better.

I’ll go back to drinking coffee :)

[east1234]

It can if you’re in bed.

[Alberta's Child]

Reminds me of an incident in my home town when I was a kid. Someone got busted stealing the light bar off the top of a police car. He almost got away, too . . . but he was heavily intoxicated and didn't try very hard to hide it.

He was picked up stumbling down the street a few blocks away . . . carrying the light bar.

[WayneS]

A Kennedy?

[Travis T. OJustice]

I’ll take “How to turn a prank into a Felony” for $2,000, Alex.

[WayneS]

Never BE on a city’s MLK Blvd.

It’s a shame and it dishonors the man, but apparently every city in the U.S. has decided to name one of the worst streets, in the most crime-ridden, hellish section of their city, “MLK Blvd”.

[VRWCmember]

That is a good point.

[VRWCmember]

Yeah... Right... It probably also dented the door and the cop smashed his head against the driver side window as the cruiser rocked under the massive impact.

Even small seemingly insignificant objects can be very dangerous when thrown at a moving car. Throwing anything at a moving car is stupid, irresponsible, dangerous, and CRIMINAL. If your cop-hatred blinds you to this fact because in this case the car happened to be a police car, stop and think what your reaction would be if somebody threw something into your car while you were driving it.

[VRWCmember]

(is my math right...a 1 second chase, really?)

Since there are 3600 seconds in an hour, 0.018 hours = 64.8 seconds. So a 1.8 mile chase at speeds of 100 mph would last for almost 1 minute and 5 seconds. (Of course that computation is based on either the entire chase being conducted at 100 mph or at an average speed of 100 mph. A chase that involved slower speeds accelerating up to 100 mph and then decelerating back toward 0 mph would mean the average speed is much less than 100 mph and thus a 1.8 mile chase would take somewhat longer. If the AVERAGE speed were 60 miles per hour, then a 1.8 mile chase would take 1.8 minutes (or 1 minute 48 seconds).

[halfright]

a raw potato up the tail pipe is more effective....

If you really wanna be crazy just put an empty sandwich baggie in his gas tank. car runs great, car dies, car runs great, car dies...

[brityank]

Police charged Barr with fleeing or attempting to elude a police officer, propulsion of missiles, institutional vandalism, speeding and reckless driving.

Thanks for the info. I knew PA was a gun-friendly state; I never realized were could also keep missiles!!       ;^)

[PissAndVinegar]

You totally ignored drag and wind speeds / direction!

:p

[DCBurgess58]

Even small seemingly insignificant objects can be very dangerous when thrown at a moving car. Throwing anything at a moving car is stupid, irresponsible, dangerous, and CRIMINAL.

I agree with you that throwing anything at a moving car is stupid, irresponsible, dangerous, and should be considered a crime. Where we seem to disagree is on the concept of proportionate response by the police. Shall we look at the physics involved? Lets take a look see!

Per the USDA, a small egg = 1.5 ounce. One ounce is equal 28.34952 grams, therefore a small egg = 42.52428 grams. There are 453.5924 grams in a pound. By dividing 100 by the number of grams in a pound (453.5924 grams) and multiplying the resulting 0.22046224760379583079434311509628 times the wieght of a small egg, 42.52428 grams, we find that a small egg equals a little over 9% of 1 pound.

Per the USDA, a jumbo egg = 2.5 ounce. One ounce is equal 28.34952 grams, therefore a jumbo egg = 70.8738 grams. There are 453.5924 grams in a pound. By dividing 100 by the number of grams in a pound (453.5924 grams) and multiplying the resulting 0.22046224760379583079434311509628 times the wieght of a jumbo egg, 70.8738 grams, we find that a jumbo egg equals a little over 15.5% of 1 pound.

We can therefore assume that the perptrator (just for fun, let us refer to him as "stupid teenager X") threw an object which weighed between 9 and 15.5% of one pound at a moving police car. Without knowing the rate/rates of speed of the vehicles involved, we unfortunately can't apply known physics formulas to the impact. We can however, assume that the eggshell broke, that egg yolk splattered on the police cruiser and that somewhere an angel died because a police officer was insulted or mocked.

If your cop-hatred blinds you to this fact because in this case the car happened to be a police car, stop and think what your reaction would be if somebody threw something into your car while you were driving it.

Whoa... Whoa... Who said I hate cops? you did! I never said, or thought, that I hate cops. I must admit however, that cops fit into two catagories, those who aren't douchbags, and those who engage in 100MPH chases, risking the lives of citizens, because someone hit their cruiser with an egg.

But we digress, back to the crime. So "stupid teenager X" attmpts to flee the scene in his automobile. The police officer turns his car, flips on the flashing lights and begins to persue the subject. NOTE: At this point I cannot find fault with the police officer's actions. Stupid teenager X, sees the police car chasing him at high speed and immediatly passes all of his fecal matter from his colon into his underoos. He also accelerates his vehicle in a desperate attempt at keeping what distance there is between him and the police cruiser.

FREEZE FRAME!!!! Our trusty police officer now has a choice to make!!! He can A) weigh the severity of the crime, and seeing that the chase speeds are becoming highly dangerous, decide that an egg is not worth the life and limb of the suspect, himself or much worse yet, innocent civillians. If he takes this course of action he will, most likely, have to let "stupid teenager X" escape, slow down and quite probably get away. The kid may ultimately be caught via an all points description of the vehicle or a partial or complete licence plate number (possibly from the police officer's own cruiser dash cam). Then again the kid might get away scot clean, vowing to God that he will never break a law again or maybe sauntering around with newfound street cred, as the badass who egged the cop car and outran them in a car chase (dude, you shoulda been there, this guy is effing crazy!!!) Our police officer has another choice he can make as well. He can be a total freakin' idiot douchbag and select course B), engaging in an escalating speed contest with a stupid scared teenage who threw an egg. When the police officer selects choice B) he has mutated into "douchbag cop X". He has selected risking you, me, our children, friends, relatives, business associates... etc... etc... to being involved in a fatal car crash, because he's pissed and he's not gonna let some punk kid get away with hitting his car with an egg.

Finally, let's look at the physics of car crashes. Below is an example of a 30MPH car crash against a stationary object (If the car is moving at 100MPH and has a head on crash with another car, the rate of impact may be as high as 170MPH).

[RobRoy]

Back one evening in 1970 I was driving a carload of my friends in my 1963 Rambler Classic and we decided to do “scare tactics”. That was where I would drive through some “low visibility” s-curves on a popular local road on the wrong side. We ended almost hitting an oncoming car which just happened to be a sheriff.

I sped up to a nearby neighborhood that was a dead end loop and drove to one of the three houses that had a back yard adjacent to the one we turned off of. As we sat there and watched the cop fly by, six guys poured out and ran into a field.

Once they were gond, I drove across the guy’s lawn to connect to the road the cop had just passed on and hightailed it to my friends neighborhood a quarter mile away. It was a typical 60’s suburb with lots of roads snaking around. I made it to my friends house, parked my car in his driveway, got out and stared walking through the neighborhood.

The cop never found me. My friends that had got out said they saw the cop follow my route across the lawn and to the main road and just assumed he had nailed me.

I’ve said over and over that if you are gonna outrun the cops you do it in the first few seconds or not at all. With helecopters now, even moreso.

Oh, and in case anyone is wondering, yeah, it was really stupid. It is amazing so many of us survive puberty.

[BlueNgold]

I must admit however, that cops fit into two catagories (your misspelling, not mine), those who aren't douchbags (again, your spelling not mine), and those who engage in 100MPH chases...

OK, so you don't hate cops, you just apparently despise them.
According to you there are no (zero, none, zilch) cops anywhere out there that are decent hard working people who honestly do their best everyday to protect the public and serve the cause of justice. Such a man clearly falls into neither of your categories, so ... ?

Care to explain, or just let your overblown and clearly unsupportable statement stand on it's merits?

[DCBurgess58]

I must admit however, that cops fit into two catagories (your misspelling, not mine), those who aren't douchbags (again, your spelling not mine), and those who engage in 100MPH chases...

Gee... that's really clever how you left out the most important part of the quote so that you could twist it out of context. ok, one more time for you...

cops fit into two catagories, those who aren't douchbags, and those who engage in 100MPH chases, risking the lives of citizens, because someone hit their cruiser with an egg.

So, BlueNgold, the meaning is quite clear. Cops who engage in 100MPH chases over an egg hitting their car ARE DOUCHEBAGS!! Those who do not engage in 100MPH chases over an egg hitting their car ARE NOT DOUCHEBAGS!!!

I never said I hate cops. I never said I despise cops. I never said "there are no (zero, none, zilch) cops anywhere out there that are decent hard working people who honestly do their best everyday to protect the public and serve the cause of justice." According to what I actually said, such a man clearly falls into the category those who aren't douchebags. However, when they engage in 100MPH chases over an egg, they quite clearly move into the douchebag category.

Care to explain, or just let your overblown and clearly unsupportable statement stand on it's merits?

I believe I have explained sufficiently my bombastic disgust of a pathetic excuse for a policeman, who is willing to let people die over a thrown egg.

Furthermore, I thank you for pointing out my spelling errors on the words categories and douchebag. I don't often misspell words but once in a blue moon that happens. Normally I'll pick up any errors while I'm proofreading but somehow I missed this these.

Finally I consider your intentional twisting of my words, vis-a-vis leaving out half the sentance to indict me, makes you... to be kind... economical with the truth. I have no further need to talk with you, as I don't like to talk with those who are economical with the truth

[BlueNgold]

Scream much?

That can’t be good for your blood pressure.

[DCBurgess58]

Two days after I told you I had no desire to talk to dishonest people, you reply with a smarmy comment?

My blood pressure is just fine and it's none of your business. Typing is not screaming, capitol letters were used for you to clearly understand what was written. In the future you might think twice before intentionally misquoting others. As far as I'm concerned, you're no better than a common liar.

That said, I hope that neither you, nor your loved ones are in a car which is struck by a police cruiser travelling at 100MPH, chasing a teenager who threw an egg.

[BlueNgold]

#1 I’m not a dishonest person - the “...” at the end of a quote means there is more to the quote not included. This is generally used as a space saving literary device. We started by discussing a matter of public policy and you degenerated into personal attacks and foul language. But sure, I’m a common liar for trying to point out to you that your statements appear angry, overblown, and seeded in a general distaste or distrust of the police. If that’s how you see it, fine.

For the record - this is a public forum. You don’t get to tell me who I can and cannot post to, and which discussions I or anyone else can join. When you take over for Jim Thompson (another joke, work with me) you can make those calls, until then you’re just going to be stuck dealing with people like me who can’t keep themselves from noticing, and the commenting, when we see someone so worked up they feel the need to type in all caps and bold fonts.

Bold letters and overuse of capitals, in case you weren’t aware, amount to screaming/shouting in a forum like this. Hence the ‘smarmy’ joke about screaming.

My advice - which we both know you aren’t going to give 2 bits worth of value - settle down a little bit, and when someone disagrees with you don’t get so darned personally insulted. In the end, probably, we are going to agree on more things than we disagree. This is one point, one topic, one thread, that’s all.

And learn to take a joke. (Oops, was that me being smarmy again?)

Have a lovely day.

[humblegunner]

somewhere an angel died because a police officer was insulted or mocked.

[going hot]

some kid threw a small rock from the overpass that hit the window of an oncoming truck. The rock was the size of an egg. The rock hit the driver in the head, knocking him out, the truck careened to the other lane, wiped out three other cars, killing all passengers, and the driver of the truck. It was on hwy 99, just north of galt, CA, a few years ago.

[Political Junkie Too]

Eggcellent!

-PJ