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US sounds alarm on China seapower
afp ^ | 7/16/09 | afp

Posted on 07/16/2009 3:04:16 PM PDT by Flavius

The United States voiced concern Wednesday about rising tension between China and Vietnam in the South China Sea as a senator led calls to boost US seapower faced with Beijing's growing military.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhoasia; bs; china; chinesemilitary; vietnam


1 posted on 07/16/2009 3:04:16 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

What’s the problem between China and Vietnam?

Fishing?


2 posted on 07/16/2009 3:06:01 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle
I would guess China wins. Since the Red Chinese won the Vietnam war, they need to deal with their satellite.
3 posted on 07/16/2009 3:08:15 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: pissant

None of this would be happening had Hunter been elected.


4 posted on 07/16/2009 3:09:04 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Chickensoup

“Since the Red Chinese won the Vietnam war, they need to deal with their satellite.”

They didn’t win that war. American socialists did.


5 posted on 07/16/2009 3:09:35 PM PDT by jessduntno (You quit when you're in over your head. You resign when there isn't enough challenge.)
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To: AuntB; Paperdoll

BUMP


6 posted on 07/16/2009 3:09:40 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Chickensoup

The last time Vietnam and China fought a war (1979) the Vietnamese whipped the Chinese army’s ass.

Wouldn’t it be ironic if the U.S. and Vietnam had to ally against China some day?


7 posted on 07/16/2009 3:09:50 PM PDT by B-Chan
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To: B-Chan

I would rather not have my sons involved in any Vietnam war


8 posted on 07/16/2009 3:13:43 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: Jeff Head

How many years to late?


9 posted on 07/16/2009 3:15:54 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Obama--POtuS.)
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To: Flavius

With this current administration, such an “alarm” falls on deaf ears.....


10 posted on 07/16/2009 3:20:28 PM PDT by cranked
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To: B-Chan

Of course the Vietnamese whipped the Chinese, they were battle-hardened from the Vietnam War and were able to defeat the World’s Superpower.


11 posted on 07/16/2009 3:34:20 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: cranked

yeas chicoms got their industrial military complex up and running yesterday


12 posted on 07/16/2009 3:50:10 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: F15Eagle
"Fishing?"

Oil and Gas.

China, Vietnam, and the Philippines have overlapping claims on the continental shelf. And this will eventually be settled by UNCLOS.

OTOH, the USS McCain and China have had recent conflicts there while the McCain was mapping the bottom with sonar. The US has no claims there except to say some of that seabed doesn't belong to any of those nations, but is international, under control of UNCLOS.

13 posted on 07/16/2009 3:51:11 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Thank you. Was wondering what the spat was over.


14 posted on 07/16/2009 3:55:04 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

Territorial desputes over various oil leases associated with islands in the China sea, also historically bad blood.


15 posted on 07/16/2009 3:57:28 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

From what I’ve read there is tremondous historical bad blood between the Vietnamese and the Chinese due to repeated Chinese attempts to dominate Vietnam. Vietnamese communists allied with the Soviets, not the Chinese.


16 posted on 07/16/2009 4:00:48 PM PDT by SeminoleSoldier
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To: cranked

They would quake in their boots that China won’t buy enough treasuries to finance the expansion of US socialism. What a sad, sad situation we’ve allowed ourselves to get into.


17 posted on 07/16/2009 4:08:35 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: F15Eagle

THE RISING SEA DRAGON IN ASIA

Latest Annual Update - 2009

18 posted on 07/16/2009 4:12:46 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Flavius

What? Chopping our 600 ship fleet to 290 wasn’t a good idea?

Wow, never saw this coming... /s


19 posted on 07/16/2009 4:27:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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To: DoughtyOne
yes
20 posted on 07/16/2009 4:30:10 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

Mine has a big lump on the end of it that’s intended to pound sense into some heads. ;-)


21 posted on 07/16/2009 4:37:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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To: Flavius

America should not takes sides on the conflicting territorial issues, but instead, work to broker peaceful settlements.


22 posted on 07/16/2009 4:51:24 PM PDT by ponder life
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Hey, EEE. It’s nice to hear from you. So China is showing it’s muscle? Timing is everything, and now that we have a far leftist president, China is no longer afraid to be agressive.After all they own us lock, stock and barrel, thanks to GWB and BHO. Sob!


23 posted on 07/17/2009 12:11:49 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Hunter/Palin or Palin/Hunter in 2012!)
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To: ponder life
America should not takes sides on the conflicting territorial issues, but instead, work to broker peaceful settlements.

Chinese territorial expansion is not in America's interests. Consequently, we should side with any country that is fighting off Chinese invasion. That's to say we should arm and train them, not intervene directly, unless the Chinese are about to overrun them, in which case we should get a coalition of countries together to oppose Chinese imperialism.

24 posted on 07/17/2009 4:32:28 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei
Consequently, we should side with any country that is fighting off Chinese invasion.

Well, I don't believe China is going to be invading another country anytime soon.

25 posted on 07/20/2009 11:22:04 AM PDT by ponder life
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To: Ben Ficklin

The McCain is a “warship”, not a vessel that tows sonar arrays for mapping operations. Sorry, can’t recall the name of the ship that was doing that.

Lately, the McCain was shadowing a NK ship.


26 posted on 07/20/2009 12:06:16 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird

If you do a google news search of “USS McCain sonar”, you will find numerous articles of the Chinese sub running into the sonar device the USS McCain was dragging.


27 posted on 07/20/2009 1:34:56 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Sorry, I was thinking of this incident:

"On March 8, 2009, five Chinese vessels shadowed and aggressively maneuvered in dangerously close proximity to USNS Impeccable, in an apparent coordinated effort to harass the U.S. ocean surveillance ship while it was conducting routine operations in international waters," the Pentagon statement said.

I'm guessing USS McCain took over as a way of saying "try that with a ship that can fight back".

28 posted on 07/20/2009 1:46:49 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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