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TxDOT may forgive tens of millions in toll fines
Austin American Statesman ^ | 7.14.2009 | Ben Wear

Posted on 07/14/2009 1:57:35 PM PDT by wolfcreek

Proposed 'amnesty' would offer forgiveness of most accummulated fees and fines, but scofflaws would have to pay the overdue tolls and get a TxTag.

Central Texas toll scofflaws could get a pass on paying much of $56.1 million in late fees and fines under a still-in-the-works "amnesty" policy set for a vote July 30 by the Texas Transportation Commission.

(Excerpt) Read more at statesman.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: austin; texas; tollrunners
We've become the United States of Amnesty.
1 posted on 07/14/2009 1:57:35 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: wolfcreek

It figures, considering that a large share of these violators are probably illegals.


2 posted on 07/14/2009 2:01:09 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Sarah Palin: Sun Tzu of Politics)
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To: wolfcreek; TADSLOS
C'mon now guys. Not too long ago, we were all raising he11 over the TTC debacle since it was designed as a way to impose new taxes and fees on motorists once again. Tollroads are just a part of that issue.

Afaic, TxDot has been out of hand for so long and throwing money out the windows for their toll schemes, they can afford to go broke.

3 posted on 07/14/2009 2:08:47 PM PDT by Sarajevo (You jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: TADSLOS

I could sit and watch north bound 183-A and count the number of people I see go by with no toll tags.

For a while Cedar Park police were sitting beyond the tollbooths and stopping people without tags who blew through without paying. ($250) I don’t know why they stopped.

As much as I hate the idea of PPP toll roads, it’s BS that people get to drive on them for FREE!


4 posted on 07/14/2009 2:09:14 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: Sarajevo
Your right. I still don't want the TTC but, since we already have these toll roads, it pisses me off that people just ignore the tolls, fines, etc. when we pay to use them. (occasionally)

Besides, WE the taxpayer would be stuck with the bill if TxDOT goes under.

5 posted on 07/14/2009 2:13:24 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: wolfcreek
Okay, I'm confused.

183 used to be the "back" road between Lampasas and Austin, and yeah, it went through Cedar Park, as I recall.

But a TOLL ROAD?

When did that happen?

Now, bear in mind...I have not been through there since about 1994, but...a TOLL road?

It would be so hard to enforce.

I think....

6 posted on 07/14/2009 3:01:42 PM PDT by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and Obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: wolfcreek
I know first hand on how screwed up TxDOT's fee collection and violation tracking/enforcement is. I have three vehicles with TxTags attached that I purchased last year, used only occasionally for travel on 130 to/from ABIA in most instances. My son uses one of the vehicles that was still registered to my old address last year in Bell County. He uses the 130 toll road exclusively as a way to avoid I-35/downtown Austin as much as possible enroute between home and San Marcos, where he attends Texas State. While the old vehicle registration was still valid at the time, I purchased the TxTag for it online using my new mailing address and set up an auto pay account to feed it coin when it goes below a certain dollar amount. The online application was accepted despite the disparity in addresses.

Two months ago, I received a call out of the blue from a collection agency claiming that I owed TxTag over $500.00 in fees and fines for failure to pay tolls against that vehicle during the previous year. No e-mail from TxTag notifying me, even though they had my e-mail address from online signup. No phone call to alert me of a problem early on. However, in fairness, I should have caught the lack of toll fees against the vehicle on our account statement. They just let the fines build then turned it over to a contractor paid for with taxpayer money to do their job.

At first I thought it was a scam, but was given TxTag's valid customer service number to call to confirm the charges. As it turned out TxTag's tracking database failed to recognize that vehicle since the vehicle registration address didn't line up with my current mailing address that the TxTag was mailed to when I purchased it. Never mind that the Vehicle ID number, vehicle description and license number were identical or the fact that they snap a photo of the vehicle every time you roll through a toll booth.

So, I had to fill out a TxDOT change of registration address form for the vehicle in question, then wait two weeks for it to be processed by TxDOT before the TxTag office could "see" the change and drop the fines to the original toll fees that accrued during that period(approx $45.00).

Now, multiply that story a few thousand times a year, not to mention intentional violators who simply blow through without any valid addresses or ways to contact them to collect and it's easy to see how TxDOT failed to collect 56 million dollars in fees and fines.

Our gub'mint at work.

7 posted on 07/14/2009 3:05:51 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Sarah Palin: Sun Tzu of Politics)
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To: OldSmaj
Yep, times have a changed. They're fixxin to extend 183-A from FM1431 to past SH29. Double Deck
8 posted on 07/14/2009 3:06:04 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: TADSLOS; wolfcreek
I have three vehicles with TxTags attached that I purchased last year

Correction: registered for.

9 posted on 07/14/2009 3:08:55 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Sarah Palin: Sun Tzu of Politics)
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To: TADSLOS

Ain’t it great. (and this is a RED state)


10 posted on 07/14/2009 3:09:07 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: wolfcreek
Well, that just sucks.

No more 110 mph motorsickle rides down 183, I guess.

11 posted on 07/14/2009 3:12:05 PM PDT by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and Obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: OldSmaj

Au contraire!

Now there are many different roads to *haul ass* on. I think the speed limits on SH130 is 75 or 80.


12 posted on 07/15/2009 4:20:47 AM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: wolfcreek

My Father-in-Law from Kansas uses 130 when he comes down to visit us.

No front tags in Kansas and he pulls a trailer when he comes down no tags required on Trailers in KS.

So he don’t stop and he don’t pay the toll.

I have also seen people Moon the camera as its taking pics on 130 pretty funny.


13 posted on 07/16/2009 7:19:44 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (We are all equal here but some of us are more equal than others.)
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To: OldSmaj

You really should get out more..

lol


14 posted on 07/16/2009 7:20:42 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (We are all equal here but some of us are more equal than others.)
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To: Rightly Biased
You really should get out more..

Probably true.

But I now live about 933 miles from that area.

But back in the day (that would be about 1989 AD) I knew every Farm to Market road and State Route between Killeen - Lampasas - Burnet - Austin.

'Course, that's also before the population of the area exploded.

I can actually recall riding down Lamar in Austin without hitting a redlight.

I loved that area around there and had the population not exploded and all the liberals moved in, I probably would have retired somewhere in that area.

15 posted on 07/16/2009 1:35:31 PM PDT by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and Obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: OldSmaj

I was the same way with my old buddies in the late 80’s we went on every back road just to see where it ended up,all around that area. Amazing the neat things you come up on on the roads less traveled. We would roam on Fort Hood just because we could. Lay at the end of Gray airfield and watch the C130’s and C5’s take off and land.

From Seguin to Killeen we had a blast and never got on a main highway. Stop and go swimming in a tank cause it was hot and our cars didn’t have AC.

and Drink more Beer than young adult boys should when they are out running around central Texas.

Boy that was fun. Sure couldn’t do that now.


16 posted on 07/16/2009 1:51:53 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (We are all equal here but some of us are more equal than others.)
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