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Should the U.S. military ban tobacco use? (CNN POLL)
CNN ^ | 7/12/2009 | CNN

Posted on 07/12/2009 4:29:32 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

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Should the U.S. military ban tobacco use? Yes 31% 21697 No 69% 47193 Total Votes: 68890

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1 posted on 07/12/2009 4:29:32 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’m finding this being a truly bi-partisan opinion. I mean it doesn’t run down lib/conservative lines.

I for one think if you are going to put me in a situation that I could get blown up by roadside bombs or have bullets wizzing over my head, don’t say a word about cigarettes.


2 posted on 07/12/2009 4:34:28 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out)
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To: Red in Blue PA

(LOL) Yes, tobacco is more dangerous than a tour of duty in Iraq or Afghanistan....we must ban it....maybe we should ban guns in the military...dangerous too!!! (/s)


3 posted on 07/12/2009 4:35:36 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Red in Blue PA

Get shelled three days in a row. Watch your hands start shaking when the shells don’t start to fall at the normal time on the fourth day. Light a cigarette and draw in deep,,,feel it calm you down.

Who the F#@k is ANYBODY else to tell him not to do it? If a damned cig makes him feel better, give him one.


4 posted on 07/12/2009 4:37:26 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: autumnraine

Well, the Obama administration is doing everything else Hitler’s administration did, why not ban tobacco, too?

“Hitler disapproved of the military personnel’s freedom to smoke, and during World War II he said on 2 March 1942, “it was a mistake, traceable to the army leadership at the time, at the beginning of the war”. He also said that it was “not correct to say that a soldier cannot live without smoking”. He promised to end the use of tobacco in the military after the end of the war.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tobacco_movement_in_Nazi_Germany


5 posted on 07/12/2009 4:37:51 PM PDT by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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To: Red in Blue PA

Leave it to the Communist News Network...good grief...


6 posted on 07/12/2009 4:37:53 PM PDT by jessduntno ("There's no limit to what a man can do or where he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit.")
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To: Red in Blue PA
as of now

Should the U.S. military ban tobacco use?

Yes 31% 21697

No 69% 47193

Total Votes: 68890

7 posted on 07/12/2009 4:38:08 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: autumnraine
It’s ridiculous notion to begin with, If they are not ban in general and it doesn't affect performance (it doesn't) then where is the line drawn?
8 posted on 07/12/2009 4:38:32 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: autumnraine

You nailed it. People in combat, getting experimental vaccines, etc,,will justly sneer at BS worries about their health like this.

Sounds like some health Nazi staff type.


9 posted on 07/12/2009 4:39:39 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: EagleUSA; All

The lunatics are truly running the asylum:

Study recommends total ban on smoking for soldiers

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/12/military.smoking.ban/index.html


10 posted on 07/12/2009 4:39:50 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Liberty Ship

Well, Hitler was a narcisstic, maniacal usurper with a questionable parentage and a vast ego who had homosexual tendencies...birds of a feather...


11 posted on 07/12/2009 4:39:59 PM PDT by jessduntno ("There's no limit to what a man can do or where he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit.")
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To: Red in Blue PA

Thanks for posting. I’m trying vote, “No” of course, and getting “Error on page.”


12 posted on 07/12/2009 4:40:19 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (I am not a spinner.)
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To: jessduntno

It’s not CNN....the Pentagon is considering it!


13 posted on 07/12/2009 4:40:37 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
They should have added the following follow up question.

"If not, what should they ban?"

This country is really into running people's lives these days.

14 posted on 07/12/2009 4:41:06 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

How stupid, let them do what they want.


15 posted on 07/12/2009 4:41:15 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Red in Blue PA
I’m finding this being a truly bi-partisan opinion.

The only ruling on this subject that I will abide by is from the survivors of D-Day.........

16 posted on 07/12/2009 4:41:37 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This country isn't going to hell in a handbasket, it's riding shotgun in an Indy car....)
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To: WHBates

...after a good gun battle, let that young man smoke or drink or what ever he wishes to get the rush to calm down. These people are jackels to our forces. Pox on all of them!


17 posted on 07/12/2009 4:42:10 PM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Paradise is just one more ban away.

Trust us, we’re “progressives.”


18 posted on 07/12/2009 4:42:27 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (This tagline temporarily closed until I finish building my deck.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“It’s not CNN....the Pentagon is considering it!”

Didn’t read past the CNN Poll part...but that’s even worse...whose hand is in this that the Pentagon would even THINK of taking away smokes?


19 posted on 07/12/2009 4:42:28 PM PDT by jessduntno ("There's no limit to what a man can do or where he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit.")
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To: Red in Blue PA

The US Congress should ban everything. They love us so much we really shouldn’t exist. Thank you asswipes


20 posted on 07/12/2009 4:42:46 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Red in Blue PA; 2ndDivisionVet; A knight without armor; Alexander Rubin; all the best; ...
Nope. and I am an ex-smoker

FREEP THIS POLL ***PING!*** FRmail me if you want to be added or removed from the Fearless Poll-Freeping Freepers Ping list. And be sure to ping me to any polls that need Freepin', if I miss them. (looks like a medium volume list) (gordongekko909, founder of the pinglist, stays on the list until his ghost signs up for the list)

21 posted on 07/12/2009 4:43:12 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: Red in Blue PA

How about a ban on all the BS medals, bronze stars, etc,, that staff types load up on instead? I bet 100 bucks whoever writes the policy will get a personal decoration for it. Probably one of those non-combat “job-well-done” bronze stars.


22 posted on 07/12/2009 4:43:59 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Next, they will want to ban drinking, etc.
The precedence such a ban would have would be very problematic.


23 posted on 07/12/2009 4:44:07 PM PDT by cranked
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To: jessduntno

AND Hitler took over the German automobile companies like Porche and forced them to make little, fuel-efficient “people’s cars.”


24 posted on 07/12/2009 4:45:39 PM PDT by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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To: Liberty Ship

History repeats itself?


25 posted on 07/12/2009 4:47:01 PM PDT by wally_bert (My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre)
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To: jessduntno

What a command structure we have now!!!

Marines are to facilitate and protect opium poppy cultivation to “win the hearts and minds”. but our troops are to be forbidden to smoke.

IS THERE ANY SANITY LEFT IN THE GOVMINT???


26 posted on 07/12/2009 4:47:47 PM PDT by slorunner
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To: Red in Blue PA

If they were really concerned about the safety of our military (and civilians), they would support banning communists, marxists, and Islamists from public office, media, academia, business, government, and just about anywhere else withing the country’s borders.


27 posted on 07/12/2009 4:49:26 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: jessduntno

It’s for their health dontcha know?

After all, a study said so.


28 posted on 07/12/2009 4:51:12 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: cranked
I would change that to read: The precedence of even considering such a such a ban would have would be very problematic.
29 posted on 07/12/2009 4:51:56 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: cameraeye

Damn right! I voted no on CNN’s site. Good God, let these brave troops have a cigarette if they want! This crap is getting stupider by the day!


30 posted on 07/12/2009 4:52:22 PM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: fishergirl
This crap is getting stupider by the day!

It's like the Twilight Zone with no Rod Serling commentary.
31 posted on 07/12/2009 4:53:56 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: jessduntno

Adolf Hitler was a nonsmoking vegetarian teetotaller.

In other words, a militant vegan, a control freak @sshole witht the power to commit horrific acts on a monumental scale because he had the power to do so.

Is the picture getting clearer, folks?


32 posted on 07/12/2009 4:56:29 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: Red in Blue PA
CNN is polling civilians? That's like polling men on what tampon a women should use.

5.56mm

33 posted on 07/12/2009 4:57:40 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: elcid1970

Actually, no.

In spite of these beliefs, some reports state that Hitler occasionally ate meat during the 1930s, which, if true, would mean that he was not vegetarian according to modern standards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler’s_vegetarianism


34 posted on 07/12/2009 4:57:57 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: slorunner

IS THERE ANY SANITY LEFT IN THE GOVMINT???

That’s rhetorical, right?


35 posted on 07/12/2009 4:58:56 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Sure, go ahead, ban cigarettes. No doubt a ban on alcohol is next. No fun of any kind!


36 posted on 07/12/2009 5:00:26 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I said no, I am not going to deny a man who is fighting for our country his cigarettes, that is his personal choice. The United States Military has been the best most capable fighting force in the world up to this point with them. They are of no detriment to our fighting capabilities.


37 posted on 07/12/2009 5:00:56 PM PDT by RebelYell1990
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To: rbg81; All

If they do this to the armed forces, they better darn well have every person employed by govt follow the same rules.

And that includes teleprompter boy!


38 posted on 07/12/2009 5:01:55 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Sure,

And let homosexuals parade openly around in uniform.

And require that 1/2 of each at MOS filled by women.

And require that only rubber bullets be used.

And post our battle plans on the internet.

And.............

39 posted on 07/12/2009 5:02:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A new Dark Ages made all the more terrible and prolonged by the sinister powers of science.")
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To: Red in Blue PA

William L. Shirer reported in 1940 that Hitler was so disgusted by the consumption of meat that he even referred to beef boullion as “corpse tea”.

Of course, Shirer also referred to Hitler as “der Teppichfresser”; that Hitler would fall into such a foaming rage that he would chew the edges of the carpet.

Who knows? All I know from being deployed was that alcohol consumption was a court-martial offense exactly equal to doing illegal drugs, and that cigarettes and tobacco products were stocked to the ceiling in the local PX tent. Make sense? I asked some colonel whether alcohol prohibition was for soldier health & welfare, or simply to avoid offending the Muslims. He blew up in my face and said of course it’s so we don’t offend the Muslims!

If a combat soldier or Marine wants to smoke, I say don’t deny him the only solace he has in the middle of a firefight.


40 posted on 07/12/2009 5:10:58 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: dynachrome

Voted NO!

Should the U.S. military ban tobacco use?

Yes 31% 24466
No 69% 53418

Total Votes: 77884


41 posted on 07/12/2009 5:13:00 PM PDT by pattty (sarahpac.com)
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To: Red in Blue PA

first cigs, then alcohol. then they will wonder why more of our guys frag.

the net effect of these bans would be that our guys would all be criminals. certainly it can’t have anything to do with health. the guys in combat zones are more likely to die by fire than by smoke.

I only smoke when i’m at a craps table. but i can tell you this. if you put me in a combat situation (coming to a neighborhood near you soon at this rate), smokes would most definitly be in my pocket. they help with everything: distract from nerves, curb appetite, overpower lingering tastes and smells (gunpowder and death!), pass your time doing something mindless.

It’s like the mindless do-gooders who run homeowners associations have taken over the world.


42 posted on 07/12/2009 5:28:14 PM PDT by laxcoach (our salvation will come from the states pushing back the feds, if it comes at all.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I say no.

But of course, when you sign on the dotted line you lose your rights and freedoms. Also, UCMJ is very clear on endangering yourself[Bad], which smoking and using tobacco does.


43 posted on 07/12/2009 5:32:54 PM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’m of two minds here. Someone making the sacrifice to defend our country shouldn’t be told they can’t enjoy a legal product.

OTOH, there is certainly some peer pressure. My friend and co-worker wasn’t a smoker when his reserve unit was sent off to the Middle East but by the time he returned, he’d begun smoking. I’d rather he didn’t because it isn’t good for him and isn’t good for his children when he’s around them.

Frankly, I don’t understand being in 120-degree temps and wanting to light a fire under your nose.


44 posted on 07/12/2009 5:39:55 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: dynachrome; Red in Blue PA

Stupid libtard social engineering crap. Our military is the best in the world. The libtards think that needs to be fixed.

When I was in cigarettes were much cheaper on base than off. If they want to smoke let’em as long as it’s still legal.

Should the U.S. military ban tobacco use?
Yes 31% 26289
No 69% 57587
Total Votes: 83876


45 posted on 07/12/2009 5:50:20 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect its children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I think that if they r risking their lives for our country, freedom, protecting other ppl in their own countries, they should be able to at least have a cigarette. If they could show that it was a detriment to their abilities to fight, then I might think about that happening. Just seems like the administration try’n to control our lives more & more. Next we’ll be hearing about our soldiers having to use non-lethal ammo to keep from killing the enemy. We can always just talk them out of hating us.

Anyway, doesn’t the administration have better things to do then worry about our brave soldiers smoking cigarettes? Not like being shot at isn’t stressful or anything. A cigarette is the perfect thing! I used to smoke but I quit 8 years ago, but I still believe it should be up to them whether they smoke or not.


46 posted on 07/12/2009 7:35:16 PM PDT by endlessecho
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To: Red in Blue PA

The Left DESPERATELY wants a reinstatement of the draft so it can once again screech about its inequities. To do this they must discourage, to any extent possible, voluntary enlistment. By trying to institute a ban on smoking (knowing that a higher % of the military smoke then do the general non military population),many potential volunteers will be discouraged. This is also the reason behind the Libs efforts to do away with the “don’t ask don’t tell” policy and have gays openly serve. Again, they know it will discourage many men who simply do not to be around other men who they know will be sexually interested in them and be checking them out in the shower.

The all volunteer military is THE reason thier demonstrations and marches during the Iraq War had little or no effect.


47 posted on 07/13/2009 3:45:03 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: slorunner

“IS THERE ANY SANITY LEFT IN THE GOVMINT???”

In a word, “No.”


48 posted on 07/13/2009 3:47:13 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: 101voodoo; All
To do this they must discourage, to any extent possible, voluntary enlistment. By trying to institute a ban on smoking (knowing that a higher % of the military smoke then do the general non military population),many potential volunteers will be discouraged

It MUST be something along these lines, or else they would institute these exact same rules for ALL GOVT EMPLOYEES.
49 posted on 07/13/2009 4:02:11 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: laxcoach
It’s like the mindless do-gooders who run homeowners associations have taken over the world.

That would make a great tagline.
50 posted on 07/13/2009 4:04:29 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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