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Denver Post sales down 17% weekdays, 12% Sundays from combined Post-Rocky numbers
Denver Business Journal ^ | July 10, 2009 | Mark Harden

Posted on 07/12/2009 10:47:24 AM PDT by george76

The Denver Post sold an average of 17.4 percent fewer weekday copies in the weeks after the Rocky Mountain News folded than what the Post and News sold together a year earlier, and 12.3 percent fewer Sunday papers, according to the Denver daily's first full circulation report since the News' shutdown.

On Sundays, the latest Post report cited average sales of 526,234 -- down 12.3 percent from the Post's Sunday average a year earlier of 600,026.

And on Saturdays, the Post said in Friday's report that it sold an average of 435,194 papers, down 11.2 percent from what the News sold on Saturdays a year earlier

(Excerpt) Read more at denver.bizjournals.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: enemedia; media; msm; newspapers; oldmedia
The slide continues
1 posted on 07/12/2009 10:47:24 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

“The Denver Post sold an average of 17.4 percent fewer weekday copies in the weeks after the Rocky Mountain News folded than what the Post and News sold together a year earlier,...”

That’s a misleading or meaningless statistic; without knowing how many people used to subscribe to both papers.


2 posted on 07/12/2009 10:55:19 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: george76

Let thme go right over th cliff... maybe the O can give the journalists some shovels to work with after the papers fold.


3 posted on 07/12/2009 11:00:17 AM PDT by Mmogamer (<This space for lease>)
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To: george76

Woo Hoo!

These liberal rags can’t go down fast enough.


4 posted on 07/12/2009 11:00:29 AM PDT by kjo
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To: george76

Newspapers have no apparent business model that’s sustainable these days. Why pay for a paper when you can get your news online....


5 posted on 07/12/2009 11:01:32 AM PDT by freebilly
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
the Post said it sold an average of 371,727 copies a day Monday through Friday between Feb. 28 and March 31.

That's down 17.4 percent from 450,258, the combined weekday sales figure reported by the Post and News in the six months ending March 31, 2008.

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6 posted on 07/12/2009 11:05:22 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Good news BUMP!

I hope all the people associated with the Democrat newsrooms lose their jobs, their homes, and their families. For the damage they have done to America, they deserve nothing less.


7 posted on 07/12/2009 11:05:54 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
That’s a misleading or meaningless statistic; without knowing how many people used to subscribe to both papers.

Who cares? It's a decline and that's what counts.

8 posted on 07/12/2009 11:06:51 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard; Grampa Dave; Liz; Milhous; abb

Yes.

TV stations , too.


9 posted on 07/12/2009 11:08:36 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Agreed. I think the local TV stations are dying like the newspapers. We need to figure out how to get people (conservatives) on Internet TV and get them to cancel sat and cable TV. CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC need to implode.

Channelsurfing.net has internet TV. They used to have Fox news but now it is CNN and MSNBC. They have lots of sports and it streams in pretty high quality.

Until we kill off these papers, Time-Warner (CNN) and all the others plus Wa PO/NewsWeak and NY Slimes - we are serfs.


10 posted on 07/12/2009 11:14:04 AM PDT by Frantzie (Remember when Bush was President and Americans had jobs (and ammo)?)
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To: george76

Don’t let the door hit you and all that stuff!!!


11 posted on 07/12/2009 11:14:24 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: george76

Die you egg sucking pigs!™


12 posted on 07/12/2009 11:16:37 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Frantzie; jazusamo

Enemedia bots get mad when they are asked how their bias and change are working.


13 posted on 07/12/2009 11:17:01 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

If 17.5%, or more, of the subscribers previously subscribed to both papers; then there is no decline. There probably has been a real decline — but, these numbers aren’t sufficient to be certain of that.


14 posted on 07/12/2009 11:20:35 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: abb
Tissue Alert: Your friends circulation numbers at the Denver Post are down 17.4 percent from the prior year even after eliminating competition from the Rocky Mountain News.
15 posted on 07/12/2009 11:23:32 AM PDT by Zakeet (Obama: Always wrong, never in doubt.)
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To: george76
The information gets pretty complex, and indicates a lot of number juggling. Both papers were owned by the same company, and when the News failed, subscribers automatically started receiving the Post. The Post decreased the number of "third party" papers, those given away at hotels and other places, so that dropped the subscriptions some. They included their "electronic edition" in the numbers, but I have no idea whether the electronic edition generates any revenue. I went to their site, but you have to enter all your personal information before getting to the screen that tells you how much it costs. The electronic edition does not include advertising inserts, so using this information when determining ad rates for inserts would be disingenuous.

Bottom line that I can determine is that total subscription rates fell. The paper can no longer afford to give papers away to prop up subscription numbers.

16 posted on 07/12/2009 11:23:43 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA; Lancey Howard

Seems like a real decline.

Sales were down an average of 371,727 copies a day .

That’s down 17.4 percent from 450,258, the combined weekday sales figure


17 posted on 07/12/2009 11:28:37 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Richard Kimball

The figures are hard to realy know.

Paid subscriptions versus free papers to hotels, airlines, etc. that might be counted in total subsriptions.

Inflated subsription numbers can be gamed to increase advertising rates.


18 posted on 07/12/2009 11:32:09 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

The enemedia has no one to blame but themselves for their decline.

At a time when the Internet is becoming ever more popular they take it upon themselves to shout the liberal agenda thereby blowing off over half the people in the country.

Even though Zer0 won this last election with their help there will be millions waking up and not voting for him again after they’re taxed to death by the turkey that was only going to tax the wealthiest 5%.

It also just may be the final death knoll for that enemedia.


19 posted on 07/12/2009 11:38:57 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: 04-Bravo; aimhigh; andyandval; Arizona Carolyn; backhoe; Bahbah; bert; bilhosty; Caipirabob; ...

http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/columns/story/1603044.html

Published: Jul 12, 2009 02:00 AM
Modified: Jul 10, 2009 04:42 PM

Congress and newspapers, 1943 edition
BY TOM BOWERS
CHAPEL HILL - Proposals to preserve the watchdog function of newspapers by allowing them to operate as nonprofit organizations are well-intentioned. However, such rescues grant governmental favors to newspapers. A subsidy by any another name is still a subsidy and a dangerous step down a slippery slope.

Congress considered newspaper subsidies during the dark days of World War II but defeated the idea. Thus, although the idea of government subsidies to newspapers is not new, the threat of subsidies to press freedom remains as relevant as it was in 1943. It would be better for some newspapers to fail than for some newspapers to be subsidized by the government. The lessons of the 1943 debate over newspaper subsidies are as relevant today as they were then.

The legislation was introduced on May 4, 1943 by Sen. John Bankhead, an Alabama Democrat. The Bankhead bill’s purpose — to “provide for more effective use of idle currency” and encourage citizens to purchase War Bonds — was silent about subsidizing newspapers, but it directed the treasury secretary to spend from $25 million to $30 million annually, divided equally between weeklies and dailies, without consideration of selling effectiveness of individual newspapers.

Bankhead said the War Department was spending more than $2 million a year on Armed Forces recruitment advertising, but only 2 percent was going to weekly newspapers. He claimed that 45 weeklies and 17 dailies had gone out of business in 1941 and 507 weeklies and 88 dailies had folded in 1942.

In other words, his bill was a handout. The need for an appropriation to pay for War Bond advertising was doubtful because newspapers voluntarily carried bond advertisements. Companies sponsored newspaper advertising that urged citizens to buy bonds, and newspapers asked merchants to pay for War Bond ads.

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20 posted on 07/12/2009 12:01:57 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: george76

http://boston.bizjournals.com/boston/stories/2009/07/06/daily65.html?ana=yfcpc
Analyst urges selloff of NY Times debt


21 posted on 07/12/2009 12:15:30 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: george76

Yeah they need to follow the liberal business model and raise taxes. Hehehehe.


22 posted on 07/12/2009 12:25:54 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: kjo
More great news:

The Gannet newspaper The Springfield (Missouri) News & Leader announced its 3rd layoff since last August.

The News & Looser is a liberal rag in a conservative area.

23 posted on 07/12/2009 12:35:21 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: abb

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ombudsman-blog/2009/07/post-salons_advice_for_the_pos.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Veteran Editors Offer Advice to The Post


24 posted on 07/12/2009 12:42:52 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: george76
It's like waiting for Christmas! I just can't wait for the dominoes to start tumbling one by one.
25 posted on 07/12/2009 12:54:43 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: abb

Thanks.

Many papers get helped by local governments when the government picks one for its legal notices.

The threat is always there, even if not said, that paper A may lose that ‘legal notice’ business to paper B if the editorials and ‘news’ is not friendly enough.


26 posted on 07/12/2009 1:58:17 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Many papers get helped by local governments when the government picks one for its legal notices. The threat is always there, even if not said, that paper A may lose that ‘legal notice’ business to paper B if the editorials and ‘news’ is not friendly enough.

And here in Louisiana the Louisiana Press Association has managed to keep the law in force that requires legal ads in dead-tree newspapers. The notices would be seen by more eyeballs if they were posted on the websites instead of in the papers.

Welfare for newspapers is all it is.

27 posted on 07/12/2009 2:01:57 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Frantzie

“Channelsurfing.net has internet TV”

That is so cool! Yes, I know I’m an old fogey and tech challenged, so that’s why I didn’t know about this. There is nothing I would like more than to be able to tell Cox Cable to get lost. It makes me so mad that they now have a channel that is nothing but programming for and about homosexuals. I called to complain, and they told me to lock it out, but I don’t want it as part of my channel line up. I don’t want to pay for it as part of my cable plan.

OK, I know, I could just give up TV, but I do love sports. Why can’t we get the channels and programs we want and not the garbage?


28 posted on 07/12/2009 2:04:41 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: All
Saturday circulation: 435,194
Sunday circulation: 526,234 (2008: 600,026)

Denver metro population: 2,800,000
Percentage that are Post subscribers: 18.79%

29 posted on 07/12/2009 5:57:31 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("I always longed for repose and quiet" - John Calvin)
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