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Ginsburg Originally Thought Roe v. Wade to Limit 'Populations We Don’t Want to Have Too Many Of'
Cybercast News Service ^ | 7/10/09 | by Christpher Neefus

Posted on 07/10/2009 7:08:21 PM PDT by lewisglad

In an interview to be published in Sunday’s New York Times Magazine, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said she thought the landmark Roe v. Wade decision on abortion was predicated on the Supreme Court majority's desire to diminish “populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”

In the 90-minute interview in Ginsburg’s temporary chambers, Ginsburg gave the Times her perspective on Judge Sonia Sotomayor, President Obama’s first high court nomination. She also discussed her views on abortion.

Her comment about her belief that the court had wanted to limit certain populations through abortion came after the interviewer asked Ginsburg: “If you were a lawyer again, what would you want to accomplish as a future feminist agenda?”

Reproductive choice has to be straightened out,” Ginsburg said. “There will never be a woman of means without choice anymore. That just seems to me so obvious. The states that changed their abortion laws before Roe (to make abortion legal) are not going to change back. So we have a policy that only affects poor women, and it can never be otherwise, and I don’t know why this hasn’t been said more often.”

Ginsburg discussed her surprise at the outcome of Harris v. McRae, a 1980 decision that upheld the Hyde Amendment, which prohibited the use of Medicaid and other federal funds for abortions.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: abortion; baderginsburg; elitist; eugenics; genocide; liberalracism; roevwade; scotus
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1 posted on 07/10/2009 7:08:21 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

What do you mean “thought”? The founder of Planned Barrenhood, Margaret Sanger explicitly pointed out that what abortion was for.


2 posted on 07/10/2009 7:10:40 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: lewisglad

Margaret Sanger would be so proud...


3 posted on 07/10/2009 7:11:15 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Bo the dog came with more paperwork than his owner.)
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To: lewisglad

Guess she thinks that about the Nazis as well. *rolls eyes in disgust*


4 posted on 07/10/2009 7:12:12 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: lewisglad

Love to hear her argument when she faces the ultimate judge, Jesus.


5 posted on 07/10/2009 7:12:52 PM PDT by doc1019 (YO! You are also half white Â… recognize it, deal with it.)
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To: lewisglad

Wonder if Sotomayor belongs to one of those groups whose size Ginsberg wishes to limit? Perhaps she could elaborate just which ethnic groups she was referring to.


6 posted on 07/10/2009 7:13:54 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: lewisglad

A true disciple of Margaret Sanger.


7 posted on 07/10/2009 7:16:27 PM PDT by Markos33 (Third World trickle up poverty, will lead to cascading Third World tyranny.)
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To: lewisglad

It is instructive (but no surprise) that Buzzy nowhere mentions the Constitution as the basis of any decision.

Nevermind that they all swore an oath to uphold it.


8 posted on 07/10/2009 7:18:24 PM PDT by webschooner (Meanwhile ... a lone barracuda senses blood in the water and slowly swims south from Alaska ...)
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To: lewisglad

Not only are this woman’s hands covered in the blood of the innocent, she’s up to her neck in it.


9 posted on 07/10/2009 7:20:41 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: lewisglad

This bitch is beyond crazy and should be impeached


10 posted on 07/10/2009 7:26:03 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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11 posted on 07/10/2009 7:27:54 PM PDT by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sarah Palin 2012 - - - - - -)
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To: huldah1776
This to me would be news IF a conservative had said it. Shes a Marxist, Liberal , progressive , call these murdering , tax eating , tax raisers what ever you want, But this ain't news
12 posted on 07/10/2009 7:28:23 PM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: lewisglad

The liberals are aborting themselves out of existence. In another few generations they will be an insignificant part of the population, and America will be restored to greatness.


13 posted on 07/10/2009 7:33:51 PM PDT by guns_for_liberty
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To: lewisglad

Bizarre and Crazy! Liberalism is a Disease, Ruth is proof!


14 posted on 07/10/2009 7:34:38 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: lewisglad

Aside from the main quote, I don’t even know what the hell she is talking about that we only have “reprocuctive rights” guaranteed for rich people. She is a leftist kook, absolutely out of her mind.


15 posted on 07/10/2009 7:36:37 PM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: True Republican Patriot

I know what she’s talking about, before Roe the libs were all up in arms because a “rich” woman could travel to a pro abortion state, but the poor woman would be “stuck” in her state with no abortions. And she views the govt not paying for an abortion as an injustice.

As if a damn abortion is the most important thing to fund with taxpayer money.


16 posted on 07/10/2009 7:41:09 PM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: doc1019
Love to hear her argument when she faces the ultimate judge, Jesus.

Think she'll listen to Him? He's a Jew. She's a JINO.

17 posted on 07/10/2009 7:53:04 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.aroodawakening.tv)
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To: Williams

To a majority of women, abortion is the only cause to vote on.


18 posted on 07/10/2009 8:00:10 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: lewisglad
What kind of judge would rule in favor of a law that construed as being for population control? Is that not what the German judges ruled for when it came to the infirm the Gypsies and other undesirables of society as a form of population control?
19 posted on 07/10/2009 8:00:13 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953
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To: lewisglad

Here’s the link to Sunday’s article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/magazine/12ginsburg-t.html?_r=1&ref=magazine


20 posted on 07/10/2009 8:36:14 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: guns_for_liberty
The liberals are aborting themselves out of existence. In another few generations they will be an insignificant part of the population, and America will be restored to greatness.

I don't want to wait that long. Let's do it NOW and put them out of our misery.

21 posted on 07/10/2009 8:38:28 PM PDT by Type Righter (...flying the Gadsden flag 24/7 until the Usurper is Gone! ..."Don't Tread on ME"...)
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To: lewisglad

The best thing to happen is for this female “mengele” to keep on talking. The media ought to ask her who she thinks should be exterminated and how. Hey Ginzburg, how about bringing back zyclon and some of those other fun gasses? inquire about her “final solution”. What a monster.


22 posted on 07/10/2009 8:58:57 PM PDT by Texas resident ( Cut n Shoot Texas: Mayberry for rednecks)
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To: lewisglad

the Supreme Court majority’s desire to diminish “populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”
___________________________________________

A Margaret Sanger fan ????


23 posted on 07/10/2009 9:03:19 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: lewisglad

Didn’t this come out on Sunday?

Why is Drudge just getting wind of it now?


24 posted on 07/10/2009 9:17:37 PM PDT by Owl_Eagle (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: lewisglad
"populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”

Sotomayor should be asked what she thinks of this.

25 posted on 07/10/2009 9:23:23 PM PDT by cookcounty (He who controls the Language controls the Debate.)
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To: lewisglad

And now Nationalized Healthcare will take up where Roe v Wade left off. :D


26 posted on 07/10/2009 9:25:00 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: lewisglad

Mental illness is dangerous and so is she.


27 posted on 07/10/2009 9:39:51 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: lewisglad; All
Oh, No, she di'inn

Listen, lefties, we always knew she was bat$*it crazy. We just didn't know to what extenst she was both racist and incredibly stupid.

Bill "What Big Lies Can I Tell Today" Clinton said about her (at the announcement of her nomination):

Quite simply, what's in her record speaks volumes about what is in her heart. Throughout her life, she has repeatedly stood for the individual, the person less well-off, the outsider in society, and has given those people greater hope by telling them that they have a place in our legal system by giving them a sense that the Constitution and the laws protect all the American people, not simply the powerful. link

28 posted on 07/10/2009 9:42:03 PM PDT by lainie (The US congress is full to the brim of absolutely disgusting thieves who deserve humiliating ouster.)
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To: Tennessee Nana; DoughtyOne

This is a bombshell. Not that Ginsburg’s “ethics” are a surprise, but the bombshell is that she would admit her motives.

If the senate contained ethical members, this could have been a big problem for Sotomayor, but she has 60+ votes no matter what the evidence is.


29 posted on 07/10/2009 9:44:09 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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To: Dogbert41

I almost fell out of my seat when my brother in law watching the Republican convention stated “Yeah, give them school choice but don’t let a woman choose what to do with her own body”.

And this from an ex pastor.


30 posted on 07/10/2009 10:09:45 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (Prayers Up! It's our last defense!)
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To: guns_for_liberty
The liberals are aborting themselves out of existence. In another few generations they will be an insignificant part of the population

Yep, The Roe Effect.

31 posted on 07/10/2009 10:18:11 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: lewisglad
"populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”

Sotomayor should be asked what she thinks of this.

32 posted on 07/10/2009 10:43:32 PM PDT by cookcounty (He who controls the Language controls the Debate.)
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To: lewisglad
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33 posted on 07/11/2009 3:07:56 AM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: Texas Eagle
Liberals do not often tell the truth about this particular piece of information. (Not politically correct now). The old gal must be slipping to admit it now.

The eugenics movement, “population bomb”, and concern about the growth of the number of welfare recipients were all part of the culture leading up to the period of time when Roe v Wade was decided.

34 posted on 07/11/2009 3:46:16 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: guns_for_liberty

No they won’t. Why do you think they’re so gung-ho about illegal immigration?


35 posted on 07/11/2009 4:24:10 AM PDT by Terpfen (Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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To: lewisglad
Roe v. Wade decision on abortion was predicated on the Supreme Court majority's desire to diminish “populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”

85% of abortion clinics are in black neighborhoods.

36 posted on 07/11/2009 5:05:46 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: lewisglad

This is unbelievable. So she thinks abortion is a way to ensure people can only live that look like her? NEXT: She needs to write a briefing on; only fugly people being born.


37 posted on 07/11/2009 5:22:49 AM PDT by NoObamaFightForConservatives
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To: lewisglad

So, if I’m understanding this correctly, Ginsburg is saying that the original justices who passed Roe v. Wade did it for eugenic purposes, so that fewer low income people would reproduce...

But Ginsburg is also worried that only high income people can afford abortions, and low income people are forced to carry their pregnancies to term?


38 posted on 07/11/2009 5:41:15 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: lewisglad
The godless unconstitutional communist democrat of America and all who support the choice of women to murder the children God created in His image will suffer the wrath of God at the judgment seat of Jesus Christ and all people who believe murdering innocents is their own choice will know then that their bodies always belonged to God and how they offended Him by murdering the fruit of the womb which was the gift of God.
Feminism is just one of the many abominations against God and His will for the family unit. And America is suffering the wrath now for this blatant sin. And still they do not hear nor do they see.
It is appointed to man once to die and then the judgment of the Lord God of Israel by Jesus Christ.
Vengeance is God's, He will repay.
39 posted on 07/11/2009 5:59:32 AM PDT by kindred (Blessed be the LORD out of Zion, which dwelleth at Jerusalem... Ps.135:20)
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To: concerned about politics

Whoa!

Margaret Sanger must be one racist bigot.


40 posted on 07/11/2009 6:03:44 AM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: lewisglad

...and exactly which “populations” is it that “we don’t want to have too many of”, eh, Ruthless?


41 posted on 07/11/2009 7:02:05 AM PDT by clintonh8r (General James Mattoon Scott: Where are you now that we need you?!)
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To: lewisglad

BTT


42 posted on 07/11/2009 7:35:39 AM PDT by AuntB (Tired of Left/right coast globalist party power brokers? How 'bout THE HEARTLAND AMERICA PARTY??)
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To: lewisglad
Ginsburg Originally Thought Roe v. Wade to Limit 'Populations We Don’t Want to Have Too Many Of'

Where is she wrong?

43 posted on 07/11/2009 8:25:09 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: lewisglad
she just didn't want to actually have to say the word eugenics...
44 posted on 07/11/2009 8:26:51 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: kittymyrib
Wonder if Sotomayor belongs to one of those groups whose size Ginsberg wishes to limit?

That was my first thought too.....

.....Leftists are the real racists.

With common sense folks, its not about race; its behavior that determines how one sees another person.

The Left sees people in race and wealth bins. They play one bin against another, with no other goal in mind than maintaining power.

45 posted on 07/11/2009 8:56:40 AM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: lewisglad
Ginsboig: “There will never be a woman of means without choice anymore. That just seems to me so obvious."

This is absolutely crazy thinking. She thinks women who have children cannot make money? I have women friends who are doctors and lawyers who have three or four children. They married men smart enough not to be threatened by them, and to cooperate with the timing of pregnancies and the childcare. There was never a need to resort to butchery. And there is no law preventing men of means from sharing their fortune with his wife -- yet.

Her stupidity and low opinion of both men and women is appalling.

46 posted on 07/11/2009 9:52:19 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If ten percent is good enough for Jesus, it ought to be good enough for Uncle Sam. --Ray Stevens)
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To: Amelia

dirty secret: northern liberal democrats are the most racist pols around


47 posted on 07/11/2009 11:19:38 AM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

I am all in for retroactive abortions of some politicians ....

can they make that legal next?


48 posted on 07/11/2009 12:05:18 PM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
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To: Tennessee Nana
"the Supreme Court majority’s desire to diminish “populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”

She was not referring to herself with this... she was referring to the conservative majority of the SC. Although she supported it, she did so for different reasons. She was bashing the other members, calling them racist. Also, I cannot wrap my mind around morons like her who think tax dollars for abortion should be available.

49 posted on 07/11/2009 12:55:03 PM PDT by VA Red (This is going to be a long 4 years)
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To: All

Oh people, it is much worse than you think.

check this out.

http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/


50 posted on 07/11/2009 1:45:17 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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