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To: STARWISE

I hope this blows up in their face.


3 posted on 07/09/2009 9:20:27 PM PDT by razorback-bert (We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.)
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To: razorback-bert

As I read it, Panetta found out about this
‘program’ that was considered after 9/11
but never really implemented and spilled
it to Congress ... now this.

Insanity.

They’ll try to use this to wander far from
this issue I’ll bet ... their eternal targets
are Pres. Bush and VP Cheney.


5 posted on 07/09/2009 9:26:42 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: razorback-bert
I hope this blows up in their face.

It had better, or this will blow up in all of our faces. It never ceases to amaze me how Democrats are perfectly OK with damaging our national security to further their partisan ambitions.

With this behavior they set up a situation where the intelligence community will become motivated to do what they are falsely accused of doing: keeping the Dem Congress in the dark in order to keep those a..holes from spilling the beans on our intelligence practices.

26 posted on 07/09/2009 11:10:59 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: razorback-bert
I hope this blows up in their face.

If you remember, the CIA was running a psy-op backdoor operation against the Bush Whitehouse because it was filled with Dem operatives at the time.

You can almost guarantee this is going to come back and eat them.

27 posted on 07/09/2009 11:29:23 PM PDT by dalight
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To: razorback-bert

with a little c-4 to go with it.


28 posted on 07/09/2009 11:44:30 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: razorback-bert

Been expecting this. Been warning about it. OVERT War has been declared on the CIA by this administration. Prepare to see the final destruction of our intel apparatus.


42 posted on 07/10/2009 5:08:55 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Zero+Zero=Zero, OR nothing from nothing is still nothing. OR 0+R E =0)
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To: razorback-bert

Me too, but I’m concerned that CIA may have done some domestic things post 9-11.


54 posted on 07/10/2009 6:17:28 AM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid! My new environmentalist inspired tagline: cut, kill, dig and drill)
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To: potlatch


RED$

big buck$ selling out America


Bill Clinton and Hillary Rodham

Diane Feinstein and Richard Blum

In 1994, President Clinton and the Democrat controlled Congress gave the PLA their greatest gun sales spree in America with a "loophole." Poly Tech officials crammed Chinese flag carrier (COSCO) ships bound for America with every weapon they could scrape from their massive inventory, selling them at inflated prices brought by Clinton's ban. In a single stroke of Clinton's pen, the PLA made over $100 million in wind-fall profits.

On February 6, 1996, Poly Technologies Chairman, Wang Jun, met with Ron Brown, and later that night, the Chinese arms dealer attended one of the infamous White House "coffee" sessions. Wang was invited to the coffee at the White House at the behest of convicted felon Charlie Trie. In 1998, Wang refused to be interviewed by House Investigators looking into the China-Gate scandal.

Poly Tech was founded in 1985 as a subsidiary of China's powerful central bank, CITIC (China International Trust and Investment Corporation). In 1996, the Chinese HQ of Poly Technologies was run by Wang Jun and his "princeling" friend, the powerful He Ping, son-in-law of Deng Xiaoping. Wang was not only Poly Tech CEO but also a Director of CITIC. Thus, the PLA "commercial" arms outlet Poly Tech also provided CITIC credit to customers.

The curious mix of communism, capitalism and corruption ended in August, 1996, when Poly Tech's U.S. operations were closed by a U.S. Customs sting operation.

Allegedly, Poly Tech's man in America, Robert Ma, conspired with China North Industries (NORINCO) representative, Richard Chen, to import 2,000 fully automatic AK-47s into the United States to Customs Agents posing as Miami drug smugglers.

However, according to the 100 page Federal indictment from one of the key undercover agents, Chen and Ma had to call back to PLA Headquarters in Beijing to obtain the 2,000 machine guns. According to the Custom agent's deposition, Chen and Ma had difficulty in getting the "barrels" because they required "higher- level permission".

Yet, Poly Technology Executive Director, Xie Datong, stated on the record that the machine gun transfer did not require permission from the Chinese General Staff. Xie Datong, also a corporate officer of Poly's American subsidiary PTK, claimed the weapons were transferred from stockpiles from the General Logistics Division of the PLA.

Whether Chinese Generals attempted to smuggle machine guns into America may never be answered. Ma and company fled the country. Gun runner Robert Ma, and all of the Chinese executives that served Poly Tech, escaped the grasp of the inept Janet Reno and Louis Freeh. Ma was reportedly one step ahead of FBI agents who had a warrant for his arrest.

Clearly, the Chinese Generals made a profit from illegal gun smuggling. President Jiang Zemin certainly has no incentive to return Robert Ma into the hands of U.S. justice, nor has Bill Clinton made any attempt to ask his "strategic" partners in Beijing.

However, the Poly Tech story goes deeper than just a few Chinese Generals and a princeling or two. According to another document obtained from the Commerce Dept., the 2,000 machine guns were to be transferred to the Long Beach port in California onboard the COSCO ship, the Princess Bride. However, "a leak from the State Dept alerted the company, which then canceled the delivery."

"COSCO," according to Defense Department intelligence officials "operates a fleet of ELINT (electronic intelligence) trawlers for the PRC government... When China delivers missiles or chemical agents to the Middle East, specially outfitted COSCO ships deliver them."

The close relationship between the PRC and the DNC also appears in the halls of the Senate. On March 7, 1997, Senator Feinstein (D-CA) told the press that she and five other lawmakers had been targeted by the Chinese government. In response, Feinstein returned $12,000 she had obtained from John Huang and other donors linked to the Lippo Group.

Senator Feinstein is well known as an ardent fan of the reds in Beijing. She has opposed a U.S. anti-missile defense, supported China's MFN status, supported the COSCO purchase of Long Beach port and is a well-known opponent of linking human rights with trade. However, Feinstein's financial ties to the communist Chinese and COSCO include her husband, Richard Blum.

Blum is reported to be heavily tied to the PRC through his far east investment firm, Newbridge Capitol Corp. Blum's partner at Newbridge, Peter Kwok, also served as a consultant to COSCO, and COSCO Hong Kong Holdings, a company owned by Chinese billionaire Li Ka-Shing. In 1989, Kwok helped CITIC and Li Ka- Shing raise $120 million to buy a HUGHES built communications satellite for a company also part owned by Chinese Generals.

Senator Feinstein is far closer to red China than a few business ties to her husband. The Los Angles Times reported in 1997 that Blum and Feinstein have visited with communist Chinese officials three times. Blum reportedly accompanied the Senator at his own expense and met with President Jiang Zemin and other top communist party officials. In January 1996, Feinstein and Blum were honored as the first foreigners to stay at Mao Tse-tung's former residence.

One Feinstein document that screams out for further investigation is a letter dated Nov. 1, 1994, from a million dollar Democratic donor to President Clinton. Investment banker and Democratic fund-raiser Sanford R. Robertson wrote a "thank you" note to Clinton for a Ron Brown trade mission to China.



78 posted on 07/10/2009 9:40:23 AM PDT by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sarah Palin 2012 - - - - - -)
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To: razorback-bert
I hope this blows up in their face.

Only if the media learns something about journalistic inquiry!

90 posted on 07/10/2009 3:28:44 PM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (no more "till death do us part" public workers!)
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To: razorback-bert
I hope this blows up in their face.

By all that is Right in the world. . .this Administration should never have gotten this far. They are creating the biggest 'pox' ever. . .on America's house.

Be it 'swine flu;and other unrestrained viruses which mirror our viral Economics along with other 'sick realities' and not without dire prenostications for more to come; re all the above.

All to say a politically and physically; a 'viral culture' in the making; with an Obama-pox signature.

97 posted on 07/12/2009 9:26:22 PM PDT by cricket ('Don't bow for me . . Obama ' (America's 'sorry' President))
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