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Damn them ... very cunning how this was set up and is being couched and portrayed. I think they were aiming to do this 'investigation' all along, and Isikoff and the vengeful libs are drooling.
1 posted on 07/09/2009 9:15:34 PM PDT by STARWISE
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~~PING!


2 posted on 07/09/2009 9:18:24 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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I hope this blows up in their face.


3 posted on 07/09/2009 9:20:27 PM PDT by razorback-bert (We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.)
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To: STARWISE
Typical of brazen libs. Isikoff was responsible for a lot of violence in Pakistan / Afghanistan riots, which broke out after his phony story on Gitmo guards flushing the Koran down a toilet.

This scum should be defending himself in court instead of instigating attacks against our intelligence apparatus.

4 posted on 07/09/2009 9:22:47 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: STARWISE
CIA motto under Panetta: Politics over Security.

Nice "leadership", there, Schnozz.......

7 posted on 07/09/2009 9:28:12 PM PDT by clintonh8r (General James Mattoon Scott: Where are you now that we need you?!)
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To: STARWISE
A little background on Leon Panetta, Obama's CIA Chief...

"In April 1985 [Leon] Panetta joined with 13 of his leftist congressional colleagues — including Ron Dellums, Don Edwards, George Miller, Christopher Dodd, and Les Aspin — in sponsoring a 20th anniversary fund-raising gala for the pro-Marxist Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), which had been described by Brian Crozier, director of the London Institute for the Study of Conflict, as the "perfect intellectual front for Soviet activities which would be resisted if they were to originate openly from the KGB." The IPS was originally funded with millions of dollars from the Faberge perfume magnate and Communist Party member Samuel Rubin and his wife."

"Readers who recall the movement to impeach Bill Clinton remember that one of the charges raised by Clinton's critics was the conflict of interest created when individuals connected with the Chinese Overseas Shipping Company (COSCO) — such as John Huang, Charles Trie, and James and Mochtar Riady — helped funnel contributions to the Clinton reelection campaign. Afterwards, the Clinton administration lobbied for granting COSCO a 10-year lease on the former Long Beach Naval Shipyard in California.

During a March 1997 edition of CNBC's Equal Time program, California Republican State Senator Dick Mountjoy noted that COSCO-linked arms dealer Wang Jun had been granted personal access to President Clinton, and that Wang's business associates had smuggled illegal assault weapons into California for delivery to street gangs by making use of a ship owned and operated by COSCO.

Mountjoy then stated:

The next thing you know, (then-Chief of Staff) Leon Panetta is down here negotiating that port for the Chinese.

There is much more to the COSCO-Long Beach connection than we have room for here, but a good summary of the threat the arrangement made to U.S. security may be found in an item inserted into the Congressional Record by Rep. Gerald B.H. Solomon on May 20, 1997.

Even the most unbiased of observers may legitimately ask: Why on Earth is an individual who helped negotiate the turnover of the Long Beach Naval Shipyard to the communist Chinese, thereby creating the threat to U.S. national security described in the Washington Times article by Rowan Scarborough and inserted into the Congressional Record by Rep. Solomon, being considered for a top position at one of our nation's most critical intelligence agencies?"

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/election/655
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From the website of the Marxist think tank, Institute For Policy Studies...

Obama’s Agenda for Change and the 2009 Summit of the Americas

excerpt:

'Yes We Can' — Change for the Americas Coming from Below

Hemispheric resistance to the first attempt by the U.S. to force the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA) on every nation on this continent led to its eventual defeat at the IV Summit of the Americas, held in Argentina in 2005. The organizers of the April 2009 V Summit of the Americas had hoped to focus on a social agenda of providing a decent living for all those who call the “Americas” their home. The emergence of the PPA, or Bush’s Plan B for the FTAA, represents a threat to the urgent need of having all nations in the hemisphere focus on tackling the disparities that make the region the most unequeal in the world.

According to Obama, “what's good for the people of the Americas is good for the United States.” Among the specific proposals Obama has made (political freedom and democracy; freedom from fear and security; freedom from want and opportunity) in the “New Partnership for the Americas” document, he says that “it’s time for a new alliance of the Americas” that leaves behind “eight years of failed policies” and “top down reforms”, and puts forward instead an “agenda that advances democracy, security, and opportunity from the bottom up”. For Obama to make good on his vision for a new "partnership" in the Americas, the divisive Bush PPA initiative must be laid to rest well before the April V Summit of the Americas gets underway.

The 2009 IV Peoples’ Summit in Trinidad and Tobago

On April 17-19, 2009, the IV Peoples Summit will be taking place in Port of Spain, Trinidad (while heads of state are simultaneously meeting at the V Summit of the Americas).The message of a "change agenda" for the hemisphere will be brought to the island nation by social movements coming from all points in between Alaska and Tierra del Fuego. A key focus for discussions during the People’s Summit will be the economic meltdown hitting the capitalist system, and the opening that this provides for the implementation of a peoples’ agenda promoting sustainable development, social justice, equity, and peaceful coexistence.[ie, communism/socialism -etl]

In conjunction with the Hemispheric Social Alliance, social movements present in Trinidad and Tobago will be providing a "change agenda" that, in large measure, will likely be echoed by representatives from many of the newly elected governments in Latin America and the Caribbean. The V Summit of the Americas will be an ideal setting for Obama to signal a new respectful and consultative role for the US in the Americas as well. Will Obama avail himself of the opportunity to take this courageous step forward? Ojalá!

Source: Institute For Policy Studies (IPS):
http://www.ips-dc.org/articles/933
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From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: Institute For Policy Studies (IPS)

IPS’s [Institute For Policy Studies] Washington, DC headquarters quickly became a resource center for national reporters and a place for KGB agents from the nearby Soviet embassy to convene and strategize. Cora Weiss headed one of the IPS's most successful forays -- into Riverside Church in Manhattan. She was invited there in 1978 by the Reverend William Sloane Coffin to run the church's Disarmament Program, which sought to consolidate Soviet nuclear superiority in Europe -- in the name of "peace." In 1982 Weiss helped organize the largest pro-disarmament demonstration ever held. Staged in New York City, the rally was attended by a coalition of communist organizations. During her decade-long tenure at Riverside, which became home to the National Council of Churches, Weiss regularly received Russian KGB agents, Sandinista friends, and Cuban intelligence agents. Weiss became infamous for her role in the psychological warfare conducted against U.S. prisoners of war held in the infamous "Hanoi Hilton" during the Vietnam War.

The Liberation News Service, which is a news source for hundreds of "alternative" publications nationwide (with antiwar, Marxist-oriented perspectives), was founded in 1967 with IPS assistance."

[lots more at link...]

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6991

9 posted on 07/09/2009 9:33:54 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: STARWISE

AQ must be lolololololololing right now.


10 posted on 07/09/2009 9:38:12 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (Hey there, White House Ha Ha Charade you are)
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To: STARWISE

If the CIA spills its secrets to scumbags like “Leaky” Leahy and other rats, then it is an utterly useless agency in the first place.


13 posted on 07/09/2009 9:45:20 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: STARWISE
House Democrats inserted language in a pending intelligence-authorization bill requiring the broader congressional oversight by requiring all members of the intel committees to be informed about secret activities. On Wednesday, in a surprise move, Obama said he would not sign the bill unless the language was stripped out.

I thought everything Pres. Bush did was bad...
14 posted on 07/09/2009 9:45:22 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama's Plan B - Payday Loans)
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To: STARWISE

It’s time for Panetta’s ass to go. He is not CIA material. The CIA Director job is not a good place to put some moron just because he supported you during the election. It’s too serious of a job for that kind of crap. Panetta is a lowlife, ‘RAT politician. He needs to be doing politician crap where your major screwups do not put other people’s lives at risk.


17 posted on 07/09/2009 9:50:48 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out?)
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To: STARWISE

Leon should realize it is not smart to piss off the rank and file in the CIA.

Dirt on him will be in the Washington Times within the next two weeks.


18 posted on 07/09/2009 9:54:19 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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A fake investigation over a fake program. Assuming for a moment if it was true, how did Pelosi find out about it if she wasn’t authorized to know about it?

Well see if any whistle blowers come to light.


21 posted on 07/09/2009 10:17:55 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (ABC-AP-MSNBC-All Obama, All the time.)
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To: STARWISE
by failing to inform the oversight committees about the program

Hells bells, if every agency is required to 'inform oversight committees' about every program that is set up but never used they are going to need a few million more 'interns' to read everything. Congress members don't even read what they are required to read as it is!

It is all smoke and mirrors to cover Pelosi's butt!

22 posted on 07/09/2009 10:21:32 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: STARWISE

The Able Danger program comes to mind....


30 posted on 07/10/2009 1:17:12 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Sarah/Liz in 2020)
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To: STARWISE

Panetta = Puñetta.

Jerking us off yet again...


31 posted on 07/10/2009 2:03:24 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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Step 1. Fabricate useful myths, make unfounded and even outrageous allegations against the United States and about those agencies and instruments of conventional US policy which are a barrier to your group's acquisition of power and ability to influence US policy. ...

Step 2. After you win an election, install your operatives as directors of these agencies so they will be accepted as credible authority figures and not as the threat they are to national security...

Step 3. Have your new directors fire or marginalize those agency employees whose compliance with your agenda cannot be guaranteed...

Step 4: Have your new directors promote those employees who share your ideology or agenda, or hire additional ones as needed to ensure all departments have a "minder" for all other staffers and control over the flow of information out of those agencies and to supress potential contrary leaks.

Step 5 : Have your new directors conduct "investigations" and "kangaroo hearings" to set the stage for the hit, and use installed or known compliant staffers as "witnesses" to the events - real or fictional- in your allegations to provide bait and fodder for the press to carry your message.

Step 6 : Have your new directors with their new "credibility" confess to and apologize for the allegations you desire the American people to accept as "fact." Repeat as needed until the public cries out for an overhaul, a purge or even elimination of the targeted agency or policy.

33 posted on 07/10/2009 3:21:09 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: STARWISE; Fedora
Note that one of the authors of this piece was deported from the UK for being a security risk.

* Agee & Hosenball : The Labour government had a chequered record on freedom of information. Whilst there was a clear commitment in the 1974 party manifesto for a FoI Act and to "place the burden on public authorities to justify withholding information" the government's instincts seemed to be more towards controlling and suppressing information. For example, it. . .also deported two Americans, Standard journalist Mark Hosenball and Philip Agee, a former CIA operations officer, on the grounds they were security risks. --------Response by the Campaign for Press and Broadcasting Freedom to the Freedom of Information Bill via 31 posted on 05/19/2005 2:27:44 PM PDT by Fedora | To 29 |

34 posted on 07/10/2009 3:32:33 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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Wonder if either of these guys [Hosenball, Michael Isikoff] attended Obama’s BBQ last weekend?


35 posted on 07/10/2009 3:41:18 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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No, The Queen was dissed and is having revenge. She is the all powerful one who was shown to be pitiful quivering liar. She has returned to deal a poisonous death blow.

The evil one should be destroyed


40 posted on 07/10/2009 4:33:40 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The boy's war in Detriot has already cost more then the war in Iraq.)
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Apparently, it’s a sin for a Republican to characterize things that happen during closed door intelligence committee meetings, but it’s refreshing when Democrats to the same thing.


41 posted on 07/10/2009 4:43:37 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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This is a very transparent game of Gotcha! that will eventually prove nothing to no one. Except, of course, that the Dems are willing to play very shallow games with national security, for the barest of political aims.

That said, this couldn't happen to a better agency. HUMINT is the realm of used car salesmanship and lies. While I don't believe that they're guilty of what Pelosi and co. say they are (because they can't keep their mouths shut about anything that might be worth bragging about to Democrat congressmen), they've been underhanded and deserving of comeuppance for some time. Karma's a MF.

43 posted on 07/10/2009 5:14:12 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (Sarah Palin is not unemployed; she's a 'conservative community organizer')
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To: STARWISE

These M-Fing Alinsky types are well on their way to demoralizing anything that may save us from the total destruction of this country, our way of life, and possibly the world.

All the American Idol Sheeple will hear is “ the CIA lied to Congress”. News broke on a Thursday, rebuttle on Friday that no one will hear.

Nicely played by this Treasonous administration, these people are experts.


51 posted on 07/10/2009 6:01:35 AM PDT by VTenigma
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First, it ISN’T the enhanced interrogation program so it has nothing to do with Pelosi’s statements.

Second, if I get this right the democrats are compromising another secret program just to give Pelosi cover.

They really are evil bastards but no one ever stops them.


52 posted on 07/10/2009 6:02:29 AM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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>Damn them ... very cunning how this was set up and is being couched and portrayed. I think they were aiming to do this ‘investigation’ all along, and Isikoff and the vengeful libs are drooling.<

I hope it backfires on them.
If it is a war of wits that they want, my money is on the cia.

I think it will cost them dearly in the end when the votes are counted in 2010 and 2012


59 posted on 07/10/2009 6:55:25 AM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
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Typical leftists. Put their political careers ahead of national security.


61 posted on 07/10/2009 7:26:14 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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And thus sayeth the Oracle of Washington: Thou shalt not go to war with the CIA for they shalt smite thee in the midst of your gainsaying. They shall cast upon you a multitude of hurtful truths and sores. Thou, shouldest though deny this commandment because thou art a dumb-bass, shall rue greatly the day thou decided to go to war with the CIA. All who follow this course shouldest pack thine baggage for thou shalt surly leave thine exalted offices.


63 posted on 07/10/2009 7:32:20 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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US secretary of state Colin Powell (right) with his deputy
Richard Armitage in Washington DC. (Reuters)
68 posted on 07/10/2009 8:29:26 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: STARWISE
The House committee includes Rep. Alcee Hastings of Florida. As a Carter-appointed federal judge Hastings was impeached, convicted and removed by the Senate for taking bribes from Florida mafia figures. Later he was elected to Congress from a district as morally corrupt as he is and ended up on the House Select Committee on Intelligence. Hastings will sell his soul for a dollar. Any conscientious agency would try to avoid giving Hastings any secrets.
73 posted on 07/10/2009 9:09:30 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: STARWISE
This is a loser for the dems whether they know it or not, no matter what Bush will come out looking like he was doing his best to save American lives, while libs are doing everything in their power to insure that we get attacked again.
77 posted on 07/10/2009 9:27:36 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: STARWISE
I wonder how long they'll be able to stretch this out. Anyone remember the last spy caper from the Democrat playbook?


84 posted on 07/10/2009 1:41:30 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: STARWISE

I bet this isn’t a “highly secret program” for very long!


89 posted on 07/10/2009 3:27:36 PM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (no more "till death do us part" public workers!)
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To: STARWISE
Given the continuing leaks by our 'insider Senate' Dems; it would be understandable that they did not get all vitals; this Intelligence Committee proved itself; over and again; as unreliable - and untrustworthy; and determined not to act in America's best interest.

That said; am not buying the story here; this is a packaged deal; to be pulled out when Obama starts to sink in polls.

Can only imagine what we will be dealing with by Election, 2010. It will be scary stuff, for sure. As it already is. . .

96 posted on 07/12/2009 9:13:18 PM PDT by cricket ('Don't bow for me . . Obama ' (America's 'sorry' President))
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