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Jeb Bush has a message for Tom Tancredo
Colorado Independent ^ | 7/9/09 | John Tomasic

Posted on 07/09/2009 12:10:54 PM PDT by pissant

Sometimes good advice comes from the most unlikely of places. In this case, it comes from a Bush. In an interview with Tucker Carlson for Esquire magazine, Gov. Jeb Bush stated the most obvious fact of American electoral politics today: if the GOP is to rise again, it has to stop hating on Hispanics– or at least it has to stop appearing to be hating on Hispanics! He’s talking about you, Tom Tancredo, non-office-holding cable-news ranter.

[T]he demographics are going against us. Alex [Castellanos, Republican media consultant] told me today, for example, that there is not a district in California where Republicans are out-registering Democrats. Of the fifty-three districts — I think that’s right — not a single one has an improving situation. It’s striking. So you have a shift. There’s more minorities. The voter-registration efforts have been successful by Democrats, ACORN and the like. The swing voters are Hispanic voters in most of the swing states. And Republicans have done a poor job, sending signals that Hispanics aren’t wanted in our party. Which is bizarre.

The people that are on television are the loudest on the immigration issue. The emotion, the anger, is a signal. Put aside the substance, but just in terms of the language. It makes it sound like them and us. And the evidence is that after [the GOP] making major inroads, Hispanics have turned toward the Democratic party in the last two election cycles. Big time. Compare that to how my brother did and how I did and how other Republican candidates have done in the past and you can see a trend line that’s quite disturbing.

It’s possible [to oppose illegal immigration without coming off as anti-Hispanic] but it requires a tone that’s different. If you listen to the conversation, it’s not just words; it’s how they’re spoken. It has to be dispassionate, the language. But it hasn’t been.

Bush also says this smart thing on the favorite tack taken by Republican tea partyists in opposing Pres. Obama:

“Socialism” is pejorative in America, so people stop listening. People are tired of it. That word won’t stick. It’s a turnoff. It doesn’t help.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; hispandering; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; jeb; jebbush; nomorebushs; propaganda; rinobush; tancredo
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Jeb, it is you and the McCainiacs, siding with the democrats, that continue to portray GOPers that demand enforcment of our laws as racist rubes.
1 posted on 07/09/2009 12:10:54 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Jeb’s wife has his testicles in her purse.


2 posted on 07/09/2009 12:13:17 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: pissant
“Socialism” is pejorative in America, so people stop listening. People are tired of it. That word won’t stick. It’s a turnoff. It doesn’t help.

Except the whole part about it being the truth, then yeah, it doesn't help.

3 posted on 07/09/2009 12:13:40 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Have you risen above your own public education today?)
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To: pissant
The voter-registration fraud efforts have been successful by Democrats, ACORN and the like.

There. Fixed it.

4 posted on 07/09/2009 12:13:41 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: pissant

We don’t hate on Hispanics, JEB, we hate on CRIMINALS... that hasn’t changed in 30 years!!

Moron


5 posted on 07/09/2009 12:14:02 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's 1984 - To Conservatives, a WARNING - to Liberals, a TEXTBOOK!)
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To: pissant

He is an out of touch idiot. Holder goes in front of congress testifying for the need for nazi race laws that will create a class of helots, and he has the nerve to chastise Tom for wanting a decent border security program.


6 posted on 07/09/2009 12:14:48 PM PDT by junta (I am the son of Yacub, who for one welcomes my new overlord Obama.)
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To: buccaneer81

What an asshole! We don’t hate anyone. We just want the rule of law to be applied, and be applied fairly to all! No illegal immigration!! No amnesty for criminals!! Ever!


7 posted on 07/09/2009 12:14:53 PM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: pissant
Jeb Bush has a message for Tom Tancredo;:I don't know that O'bama is a socialist. Do you think he might be Tom?
8 posted on 07/09/2009 12:14:55 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: pissant

Dammit, no more Bushes!


9 posted on 07/09/2009 12:15:17 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: pissant

I’m done with Bushes, but I am really done with libs giving advice to the RNC. Not that the RNC stands for anything anymore, well except lib lite.


10 posted on 07/09/2009 12:15:22 PM PDT by JoSixChip
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To: pissant

I’ve got advice for Jebby...and the horse you rode in on.


11 posted on 07/09/2009 12:16:12 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: pissant
I agree with Jeb.
12 posted on 07/09/2009 12:16:15 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: pissant

GWB’s people seem to be working for Jeb now.


13 posted on 07/09/2009 12:16:23 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: pissant

‘And Republicans have done a poor job, sending signals that Hispanics aren’t wanted in our party.’

Lol. The leader of the GOP[Pres.Bush] pushed for Amnesty? What more did you want?


14 posted on 07/09/2009 12:16:37 PM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: pissant

Take your family cash and get out of public life.

You live in gated compounds with armed guards on government health plans and pensions.

You have no idea what the illegal invasion has done to the SW.


15 posted on 07/09/2009 12:16:43 PM PDT by wac3rd (80 Carter/Obama 08)
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To: pissant

Stick it up your arse, Jeb. Does the rule of law mean any more to you than it does to our Marxist in Chief?


16 posted on 07/09/2009 12:17:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: pissant
Once more they are letting the opponent define them: If you don't cotton to a practice, then it automatically means you have a primitive hatred for the peoples who carry on that practice.

Caca del toro! We love Hispanics and want them to come here the proper way.

17 posted on 07/09/2009 12:18:41 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Think of the D Party as what it really is: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: pissant

Using California as an example is ludicrous, because it is there that huge numbers of illegals wind up simply because of their sanctuary laws. Not to mention the free housing, health care, tuition and on and on and on.

Given all that, what illegal Hispanic in their right mind would even THINK about registering or voting anything BUT Democrat?


18 posted on 07/09/2009 12:18:50 PM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: pissant

Don’t shoot the messenger, he’s right. It’s not the message, it’s the tone that makes them come off as racist rubes.


19 posted on 07/09/2009 12:19:04 PM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: colorado tanker

Yes. We should all talk down to hispanics and pretend they can’t understand the importance of law and order and the need to keep illegal aliens from invading the country.


20 posted on 07/09/2009 12:20:10 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Jeb Bush is thrilled to be a member of the beltway insider crowd, why Tucker Carlson just allowed Jeb to shine his shoes.
21 posted on 07/09/2009 12:20:41 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (The Golden Goose doesn't exist that Marxists can't kill.)
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To: pissant

If they can’t seperate Hispanic/Immigration, thats not my fault


22 posted on 07/09/2009 12:20:42 PM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If Jeb Bush loves Hispanics so much where is his statement denouncing the interventionists trying to re-instate a Chavez wannabe in Honduras?


23 posted on 07/09/2009 12:21:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: pissant
JEB BUSH: "If the GOP wants to win, they have to adopt the same policies as the Democrats."
24 posted on 07/09/2009 12:21:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: contemplator

No, it’s the message Jeb doesn’t like. That’s why he’s in favor of not deporting illegals and pathways to citizenship.


25 posted on 07/09/2009 12:21:40 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: contemplator

This is knuckling under to the Alinskyite method of letting your opponents define you. There isn’t any “tone” that they will like other than a squeaky, girlyboy, perpetually apologetic tone.


27 posted on 07/09/2009 12:22:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Think of the D Party as what it really is: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: pissant
if the GOP is to rise again, it has to stop hating on Hispanics– or at least it has to stop appearing to be hating on Hispanics!

If this is truly what Jeb said, he's an idiot.

28 posted on 07/09/2009 12:23:26 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: All
Hey Jeb!

Shut the F...




RONT door!

29 posted on 07/09/2009 12:23:34 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


30 posted on 07/09/2009 12:23:34 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: contemplator
I disagree. It has to be called for what it is, and what it is IS socialism. People aren't tired of hearing it because they aren't hearing it enough. There isn't a MSM outlet that would dare call Obama's policies socialist. But they are.

How sad is it that Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin are the only people on a national level to call attention to the real agenda in Washington, and call it by its real name? Its even more sad that an alleged republican like Jeb Bush don't want the word used.

31 posted on 07/09/2009 12:24:06 PM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: contemplator

It isn’t the tone or the content. It’s the state run media propaganda.


33 posted on 07/09/2009 12:24:22 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: contemplator
Don’t shoot the messenger, he’s right.

Maybe YOU hate Hispanics, but I don't.

34 posted on 07/09/2009 12:25:02 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

That’s the author of the piece. Jeb’s quotes are below that.


35 posted on 07/09/2009 12:25:05 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: gwilhelm56
It's a stark realization that if we can't educate supposedly intelligent people like Jeb Bush as to how conservatives feel about immigration, the difference in legal and illegal, we are going to have a hell of tough time getting our message across to voters as a whole.

I am so tired of seeing anyone who feels ILLEGAL immigration is an affront to America, what it stands for, and how it came to be the greatest nation on God's green Earth portrayed as a racist or somehow being against immigration. Along with how they feel about and treat Sarah Palin I see one’s approach to immigration as one of the prime litmus tests for identifying a RINO.

Time is running out. If we don't wrest back control of our country and our government NOW it will be too late. Somehow we've let enough illegal immigrants come into this country over the last 20 years to affect the outcome of any election at any level.

36 posted on 07/09/2009 12:27:09 PM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I disagree, the tone that would work in this case would be a nasally, Ben Stein professorial lecturing style tone. A Kissinger style lecturing tone would do the trick too.


37 posted on 07/09/2009 12:27:10 PM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: pissant
We should all talk down to hispanics and pretend they can’t understand the importance of law and order and the need to keep illegal aliens from invading the country.

The party seems to be doing a pretty good job of that.

38 posted on 07/09/2009 12:27:25 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: pissant

Hey Jeb...even my hispanic friends don’t want ILLEGALS here!!!!!!! Get a clue.


39 posted on 07/09/2009 12:28:44 PM PDT by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: JoSixChip
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Jesse got one thing right. I'm sick of lib lites too!

40 posted on 07/09/2009 12:29:21 PM PDT by dragonblustar ("... and if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse than Hitler!" - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: pissant

Jeb is a jackass and worse than his brother on immigration. The whole Bush family has a love affair with Mexico

I voted for Jeb twice because he was much better than the Democrat. But as Florida governor he had no influence on immigration


41 posted on 07/09/2009 12:29:33 PM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: MEGoody
Maybe YOU hate Hispanics, but I don't.

Get a life and stop trying to turn an honest discussion into a personal attack.
42 posted on 07/09/2009 12:30:03 PM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: colorado tanker

No, but McCain talked down to them in this manner, even going so far to pitch his amnesty plan in spanish on radio stations throughout the SW. He got shellacked. And once again, a guy named Duncan Hunter in a heavily hispanic district on the border walked away with crushing victory.


43 posted on 07/09/2009 12:30:25 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: buccaneer81
Jeb’s wife has his testicles in her purse.

Assuming there was room for his little nuggets in the purse in which alert Customs agents found sales receipts for $38,000 of items she tried to smuggle in through customs on her return from Paris? Some First Ladies... reek of Marie Antoinette.

44 posted on 07/09/2009 12:30:32 PM PDT by patriotgal1787 ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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To: pissant
Hispanics are Mexicans and Jeb has a few in his family. Thus his point of view. Jeb is washed up now as will be most all RINOs in the near future.
45 posted on 07/09/2009 12:31:16 PM PDT by fish hawk (Volition is a gift of God to reject Him or find peace in His love.)
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To: pissant
That is exactly what Republican conservatives need, more advice from a Bush. The party is in the sorry state it is because of the “leadership” from both Bushes,Dole, McCain, and Gingrich. As long as the Republican Party chooses race and skin color over principles it will be an insignificant challenger to the Democrat-Socialists. But the Republican “leadership” want it that way. These old men just will not go away, no matter how much damage they cause. Each of them have been more concerned about their legacy than grooming a competent and principled group of young fighters for the coming Socialist\Marxist\Democrat assaults.
46 posted on 07/09/2009 12:31:35 PM PDT by Texas_Diesel
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To: pissant
In this case, it comes from a Bush.

It's time for the GOP to understand that the Bush Family has been the worst train-wreck since Richard Milhous Nixon.

47 posted on 07/09/2009 12:31:53 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!!)
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To: RKV

well said


48 posted on 07/09/2009 12:32:12 PM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: pissant
My Jeb Bush story
49 posted on 07/09/2009 12:32:15 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (GIVE ME YOUR MONEY BITCH! - President Obama)
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To: contemplator

I agree with you. He didn’t say amnesty. He said we have to present immigration issues dispassionately so as not to alienate a growing demographic.

That said, Jeb Bush, go home. No more Bushes.


50 posted on 07/09/2009 12:34:35 PM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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