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Obama's Asst Atty Gen. Tells Senate: Terrorists Captured on Battlefield Have Constitutional Rights
cnsnews ^ | 7/8/09 | Penny Starr

Posted on 07/08/2009 1:15:35 PM PDT by Nachum

(CNSNews.com) – At a Senate hearing Tuesday on the use of military commissions to prosecute terrorists being held at Guantanamo Bay, some members of the Armed Services Committee took offense at the Obama administration’s view that the detainees should have the same legal protections under the Constitution as U.S. citizens.

Ranking member Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) questioned Assistant Attorney General David Kris about his remarks on the appropriateness of administering the Miranda warning to terrorist suspects captured abroad. "It is the administration's view that there is a serious risk that courts would hold that admission of involuntary statements of the accused in military commission proceedings is unconstitutional," Kris said in his opening statement

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda; assistant; attorney; bho44; democrats; general; obama; obamas
When are Americans going to get the pitchforks?
1 posted on 07/08/2009 1:15:35 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: SumProVita; HardStarboard; BradyLS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; dervish; Twotone; Free ThinkerNY; ...

The list, ping


2 posted on 07/08/2009 1:16:07 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

David Kris is not an “American” and has no understanding of what it takes to be one.


3 posted on 07/08/2009 1:16:52 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Nachum
This might have slowed our progress a little during WWII. Especially difficult would have been reading rights to kamikaze pilots. Perhaps radio would have worked.
4 posted on 07/08/2009 1:18:01 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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To: Nachum

Throwing the BS Flag here!!!

Terrorists caught on the battlefield or elsewhere who are not American citizens have no rights under the Constitution.


5 posted on 07/08/2009 1:19:05 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Nachum

I sure wish they would notice my constitutional rights! They want to pick and choose.


6 posted on 07/08/2009 1:19:51 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Nachum

OBOZO couldn’t get hired to be the night manager of a Mickey D’s!! and the RATS cheated him in to OUR SUPREME LEADER POSITION!! OUTRAGEOUS!!


7 posted on 07/08/2009 1:21:38 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: Nachum

Every platoon should have a forensics technician assigned to it to gather crime scene evidence.

They are going to need a lot of yellow tape.

And they should have a corps of criminal lawyers assigned to defend the enemy combatants in court. Process servers to serve subpoenas on the enemy combatants prior to any attack (and judges to issue the attack warrants which have to be requested in advance along with legal briefs detailing probable cause).

Civil lawyers can be assigned to the enemy combatants afterward to help them get any indemnity payments they may have coming.


8 posted on 07/08/2009 1:21:59 PM PDT by marron
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To: Nachum

But Americans who oppose abortion and gay”marriage” don’t have any rights.


9 posted on 07/08/2009 1:23:42 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: marron
Simple enough, No prisoners!

None, nada, not ever. When in doubt call in an air strike.

10 posted on 07/08/2009 1:24:22 PM PDT by Taylor42
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
The fact is they are entitled to protections under the Geneva Convention, which apply to the rules of war,” McCain said

This is not necessarily true, either. Most of the muslim countries that are providing today's "enemy combatants" did not sign the Geneva Convention.
11 posted on 07/08/2009 1:24:57 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves)
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To: Nachum

Except for Americans who are preceived as domestic terrorists.


12 posted on 07/08/2009 1:26:46 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: marron
From the article:

“I applaud this committee’s initiative to reform the military commission act. I think the military commission should be a viable ready alternative for national security reasons to deal with those who violate the laws of war, and I’m glad we’re having this discussion right now, and I thank the committee,” Johnson said.
 
“When you’re dealing with terrorists whose, and I’m going to say this on behalf of the administration, one of their fundamental aims is to kill innocent civilians, and so it is the administration’s view that direct violence on innocent civilians, let’s say in the continental United States, it might be appropriate that that person be brought to justice in a civilian public forum in the continental United States,” Johnson said.
 
“Because the act of violence that was committed here was a violation of Title 18 (federal criminal law), as well as the law of war, so we feel strongly that both alternatives should exist,” Johnson added.

Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.) (CNSNews.com/Penny Starr)
“Well, I respectfully disagree,” Lieberman said. “These are people we believe are war criminals; that’s why we captured them. The greater legal protections of the terrorists because they have chosen to do something that pretty much has not been done before in our history to attack Americans, to kill people here in America, as they did on 9/11, civilians, innocents, it doesn’t matter, and to do it outside of uniform.
 
 “So it puts us in a very odd position, giving these terrorists greater protections in our federal courts than we’ve given war criminals in any other time throughout our history, even though, in my opinion, they are at least as brutal and inhumane, probably more brutal and inhumane than any war criminals,” Lieberman said.
 
“Yes, it might also be an act of murder that killed people who were in the Trade Towers on 9/11, but it was an act of war,” Lieberman said. “And the people who did that do not deserve the same constitutional protections of those accused of murder in New York City.”
 
The hearing focused on the military commissions portion of the National Defense Authorization Bill for Fiscal Year 2010, which includes changes to the Military Commission Act of 2006.

13 posted on 07/08/2009 1:27:00 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Please God, deliver us from the deprivations of the Obamonster, and do it SOON!)
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To: Taylor42
When in doubt call in an air strike.

Just make sure you've got that warrant. :)

14 posted on 07/08/2009 1:27:07 PM PDT by marron
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To: SpinnerWebb
mccain is a fool, an idiot, traitorous and a horrible Naval aviator.

LLS

15 posted on 07/08/2009 1:28:44 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: SpinnerWebb
Give the captured terrorists a coupon book for their virgins. Should they choose to redeem their coupons then by all means we must accommodate them. If they refuse to redeem their coupons, then they are admitting they are not true believers in their Allah and should be handed over to the Taliban with a note explaining how they have allowed fraudulent Muslims pretend to be for their cause, but have shown their true colors. Let the Taliban cut off their heads which results in a win-win situation.
16 posted on 07/08/2009 1:31:56 PM PDT by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin)
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To: Nachum

Why should they disagree with the administration? The current occupant of the office of president is a “Constitutional scholar,” isn’t he?


17 posted on 07/08/2009 1:33:43 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Nachum

Why Capture? KILL TERRORISTS! There, problem solved!!!!


18 posted on 07/08/2009 1:33:53 PM PDT by lula ( If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?)
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To: greyfoxx39

Jeh C. Johnson is the Jackie Childs of the Pentagon.


19 posted on 07/08/2009 1:46:16 PM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: Nachum

Bush’s fault.

Really, in this case. You don’t offer quarter to combatants not wearing uniforms. These people should never have been captured.


20 posted on 07/08/2009 1:50:33 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Nachum

FUBO


21 posted on 07/08/2009 1:57:39 PM PDT by TheThinker (America doesn't have a president. It has a usurper.)
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To: Nachum
"When are Americans going to get the pitchforks?"

Hmmm! Based on the fact that oscumbo is still over 50% I would say they already are.

Unfortunately, most are cutting off the forks and nailing large squares cut from white sheets on the handles.

22 posted on 07/08/2009 1:58:43 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Nachum
Terrorists Captured on Battlefield Have Constitutional Rights

But babies don't.

This country is ripe for destruction.
23 posted on 07/08/2009 1:59:19 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Nachum

Drop this sorry SOB on the battlefield and tell him to walk out to the enemy line and read them their rights.

This entire clown show infesting DC is resembling a Charlie Chaplin movie. When we take back our government - and we will - indictments for sedition need to be processed against the entire mob of traitors in the Whitehouse and a couple hundred members of congress.


24 posted on 07/08/2009 2:02:26 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: Nachum

this problem has a simple solution............stop taking prisoners


25 posted on 07/08/2009 2:05:19 PM PDT by joe fonebone (When you ask God for help, sometimes he sends the Marines.)
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To: Nachum

Mount Rushmore Defaced

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2288340/posts


26 posted on 07/08/2009 2:07:37 PM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

IOW, make sure they’re not captured. Problem solved.


27 posted on 07/08/2009 2:14:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: LearsFool

Sad but well said.


28 posted on 07/08/2009 2:24:56 PM PDT by NoObamaFightForConservatives
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To: Nachum

I want to know their reasoning for it.

But then again, they’re Liberals. They throw reasoning out the window and live purely on emotion.


29 posted on 07/08/2009 2:34:20 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: Nachum; All

For people who don’t like to expand American influence around the world, it seems odd that they would want to expand our Constitution.


30 posted on 07/08/2009 3:01:35 PM PDT by KRyanJames
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

No, that would have been a different rule, the one where we have to identify ourselves as American soldiers, and yell “stop, or I’ll shoot”, and give them a chance to surrender before we attack them.


31 posted on 07/08/2009 3:02:00 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Nachum; All

C’mon. David Kris is ‘91 Harvard Law. You FR rube knuckle draggers should recognize your betters.


32 posted on 07/08/2009 3:13:16 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Revolution by the Have-Nots has a way of inducing a moral revelation among the Haves - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Nachum

mentally ill...PERIOD.


33 posted on 07/08/2009 3:14:40 PM PDT by surfer
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To: Nachum
Was there ever any doubt from this crew?
34 posted on 07/08/2009 3:28:56 PM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: Nachum
Wow, US legal authority now extends across the global. We didn't even have to subjugate the world to _gain_ this power.
35 posted on 07/08/2009 4:06:05 PM PDT by veracious
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

Not to mention the lack of “standing” of those in the electorate who would like to expose the truth of the entire pattern of fraud which put this administration in place.


36 posted on 07/08/2009 4:33:56 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Jacquerie

Harvard, isn’t that where the One was President of the prestigious law review without ever putting his name on a single piece of writing? If you can be President of the Harvard Law Review without ever writing a single word that was attributed to you surely that proves that those who graduate from Harvard Law are better than the rest of us. /s


37 posted on 07/08/2009 4:37:37 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Nachum

I have the perfect solution:

TAKE NO PRISONERS!


38 posted on 07/08/2009 4:59:01 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Nachum

unfreakinbelievable


39 posted on 07/08/2009 5:33:13 PM PDT by RDTF ("I'm pretty sure this is a 2 man job once the shooting starts")
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To: Nachum

These people are lunatics. This is the end game of a government run by and beholden to lawyers. Anything and everything is subject to legal supervision. Including wars now.


40 posted on 07/08/2009 6:27:20 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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