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Obama birth mystery: More than 1 hospital
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | July 07, 2009 | By Joe Kovacs and Jerome Corsi

Posted on 07/08/2009 3:12:22 AM PDT by Man50D

More than eight months after Barack Obama was elected president, the mystery surrounding his precise birthplace is deepening as the myth-busting website Snopes.com – along with several news agencies and an Obama community blog – directly contradict the president's own claim regarding the hospital in which he was born.

In an official letter signed by Obama on White House stationery, the president celebrates his birth at the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu, Hawaii. The facility has posted that letter on its website, along with video of the letter being read in public.

But according to Snopes, the popular online hoax-buster that many rely on as the final word on both important and frivolous stories, Obama was born at a different hospital in the Hawaiian capital.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: akaobama; birthcertificate; birthers; corsi; obamafamily
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1 posted on 07/08/2009 3:12:22 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D

Well it makes sense that the Obamessiah is Omnipresent.


2 posted on 07/08/2009 3:16:18 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Man50D

Nothing to see here....let’s move along.

The Ministry of Truth.


3 posted on 07/08/2009 3:21:12 AM PDT by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: DH
I think you mean "The Truth Czar..."

(Czar #33 and counting)

;-/

4 posted on 07/08/2009 3:34:03 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people..." John Adams)
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To: DH
I think you mean "The Truth Czar..."

(Czar #33 and counting)

;-/

5 posted on 07/08/2009 3:34:28 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people..." John Adams)
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To: Man50D

I suppose he was born there the day the Doctor, nurses, and all hospital staff took a day off, since no one appears to remember him there.


6 posted on 07/08/2009 3:43:45 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Man50D

can we say Kenya?


7 posted on 07/08/2009 3:51:36 AM PDT by celtic gal (I think the democRATs should change their logo from a jackass to a RAT with a long tail.)
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To: Man50D

“Oh, you want the Kenyan wing. Follow the red line down the hall to the left, and cross the mop spills...”


8 posted on 07/08/2009 3:56:42 AM PDT by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: Man50D
Isn't the definitive document that can prove/disprove where he was born (Kenya or Hawaii) the mother's passport? I think that's what Obama snatched from his grannies apartment just before she passed on.
9 posted on 07/08/2009 3:58:07 AM PDT by Shqipo ((A new tagline is currently under construction))
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To: Man50D

He wasn’t there!.....how can he remember?


10 posted on 07/08/2009 3:59:00 AM PDT by TPOOH (I wish I could have been Jerry Reed.)
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To: Man50D

I submit the following statement to be issued shortly, That statement from Obama about his Birthplace is No longer Operative, He Misspoke.


11 posted on 07/08/2009 4:02:07 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Man50D
Obama, FOOLS!
12 posted on 07/08/2009 4:03:12 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Man50D

bttt


13 posted on 07/08/2009 4:07:13 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Venturer
I suppose he was born there the day the Doctor, nurses, and all hospital staff took a day off, since no one appears to remember him there.

Umm... do doctors and nurses regularly check on patients in mangers?

14 posted on 07/08/2009 4:14:30 AM PDT by Gordon Pym
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To: Man50D

All of this—all of it—has been posted, discussed, collected, analysed, reviewed, dissected and archived here on FreeRepublic over the pastten months or so.

I didn;t see naything that Freper research didn’t already cover.

The only benefit is that other places in the Web might pick up the main point, that two medical facilities have been named as Obama’s birthplace, and that conflict will have to be resolved.

We know where American Presidents were born over 200 years ago.

This clown was born 48 years ago and it is a big mystery.


15 posted on 07/08/2009 4:16:31 AM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: Man50D
The joke on everyone is that there is no mechanism to disqualify a candidate if they don't abide by the qualifications for office as in natural born. Only public opinion could have disqualified him in the primaries and Axelrod, the mythmaker, took care of that problem.

Now we have the larger issue of disqualifying a sitting president who is not basically qualified. It's like a prizefighter not losing on points, only a KO. When his numbers tank on the economy, and if we survive, then this issue will have legs. IMHO.

16 posted on 07/08/2009 4:22:46 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Obama really did believe that stuff he was saying during the campaign)
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To: Man50D

I guess we should just always rely on Snopes, for accurate news reporting.


17 posted on 07/08/2009 4:54:12 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Venturer

Do you really think that people in a maternity ward actually remember every baby born there, even after these many years?


18 posted on 07/08/2009 4:55:34 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: exit82

Next it will be established that he was born in Kenya, Hawaii, or Hawaii, Kenya - there, problem solved.

Time for flood of bumper stickers: “Seen 0bama’s BC?”


19 posted on 07/08/2009 4:55:49 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: Man50D

Don’t focus on where he was born. Focus on how he was able to travel to unfriendly countries in the early ‘80s and the rest will begin to fall into place.


20 posted on 07/08/2009 5:00:48 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Man50D

If 0bama is telling the truth and he was really born in a hospital in Hawaii, why can’t the OTHER hospital in Hawaii simply confirm that they were not the birth location?
Does patient confidentiality extend to non-patients too? That seems illogical.
At least one of these hospitals was not the manger of 0bama. Possibly both. Why on earth would MORE THAN ONE hospital be protecting his confidentiality?


21 posted on 07/08/2009 5:01:49 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: stuartcr
"Do you really think that people in a maternity ward actually remember every baby born there, even after these many years?"

Is it really that unreasonable to think someone from a maternity ward would remember the birth of a black child to a white woman who then named the child Barack Hussein Obama II in 1961?

22 posted on 07/08/2009 5:15:00 AM PDT by VRWCtaz (Tagline error - please hold)
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To: VRWCtaz

In Hawaii, yes. Do you remember anything about what you did at work, on any particular day, in 1961?


23 posted on 07/08/2009 5:17:49 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Thebaddog

The joke on everyone is that there is no mechanism to disqualify a candidate if they don't abide by the qualifications for office as in natural born. Only public opinion could have disqualified him in the primaries and Axelrod, the mythmaker, took care of that problem.

Now we have the larger issue of disqualifying a sitting president who is not basically qualified. It's like a prizefighter not losing on points, only a KO. When his numbers tank on the economy, and if we survive, then this issue will have legs. IMHO.

OK so let's say the worst happens and Cap and Tax is passed along with socialized medicine and the "Green Police" and the resurrected fairness doctrine.
after the masses get a taste of Obomunist totalitarianism will it THEN be palatable to remove him and make all the above null and void
or will it then be too late

24 posted on 07/08/2009 5:18:42 AM PDT by Gordon Pym
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To: stuartcr

No : I dont, but some Doctor got paid.
The hospital should have records of payment.Normally if a President of the United States came out of a hospital someone would go look it up to see if they helped in the birthing.
Someone would say I was there that night wasn’t I? Where was Toot when all this was going on? Was she there with her daughter? She never mentioned it to my knowledge, which is admittedly sparse.
Too many things about this birth are sparse.
Friends. Where are the Obama friends? I have friends who remember my mother’s shower, her giving birth. I have friends born at the same hospital I was born at. Where are these people?

Too many questions, not enough answers, trying too hard to avoid these questions.It doesnt add up.


25 posted on 07/08/2009 5:20:36 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Gordon Pym
Doctors who attend births get paid. Did you ever sign a baby out of a hospital without a Pediatrician to allow it to leave? He gets paid too. ' Hospitals also get paid. Where are the records?
26 posted on 07/08/2009 5:23:28 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: stuartcr
I don't understand the “In Hawaii, yes.” Do memories work differently in Hawaii? As to my personal memories of the 60s - I have trouble remembering to turn the dryer on when I put the clothes in from the washing machine. (It has happened more times than you would think.)
27 posted on 07/08/2009 5:37:56 AM PDT by VRWCtaz (Tagline error - please hold)
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To: VRWCtaz
Is it really that unreasonable to think someone from a maternity ward would remember the birth of a black child to a white woman who then named the child Barack Hussein Obama II in 1961?

That, the Halo, and the Angels announcing his birth to the rest of the maternity ward.........who could forget that??!!

28 posted on 07/08/2009 5:46:06 AM PDT by freedombird (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness. -A. DeTocqueville)
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To: Man50D
BTTT.

Worldnet has done a good job of compiling these contradictions in the Kenyan Clown's birth tales.

It is absurd that we are in the 21st century and yet have a president that we still no idea what hospital he was born in. Worse, the MSM refuses to sort through the wildly contradictory stories and at least write about this most unprecedented situation.

29 posted on 07/08/2009 6:04:07 AM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: Man50D

Obama's own flacks deny that obama was born in Kenya but do acknowledge that he had a dual citizenship up until 1982

from obama's own site factcheck.org by way of fightthesmears on his dual citizenship at birth

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”(Someone will want to cache the above web page because it will be taken down eventually.)

Here is the problem with fighthesmears narrative: We already have recorded that Obama's wife michellle said Obama's mother was "very young and very single" when obama was born.

British law at the time of obama's birth only gave citizenship from the father to the son in the case that the father is married to the mother:ie the son is legitimate. See wikipedia 2.4.3Since obama's parents were NOT married -- how did obama get his British/Kenyancitizenship? Its not unreasonable to think that he got his British/Kenyan because he was born there--and not because of his parentage. As to the famous newsclipping in Hawaii that states that bama was born there in 1961--there is evidence to suggest that the house named as the place where Obama was born -- was lived in by someone else besides his parents.

Once again, Just one piece of evidence could easily be dismissed. It is the accumulation of evidence that is troubling.

The American Thinker explains here why the short form that Obama released is not sufficient for Hawaii. There is evidence to suggest that the home named in the newspaper archived article as the place where Obama was born -- was lived in by a couple not Obama's parents. Even the Honalulu Advertiser has a different address of record for Obama's father than the one listed newspaper birth listing. The hospital where Obama claims he was born--refuses to either confirm or deny that he was in fact born there--and that despite the fact that Obama has said he was born there in writing--and presented the hospital a memo to that effect...right after he was elected. What's more newspaper accounts of his birth place him in other hospitals around Hawaii. None of these will comment either.

Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.


30 posted on 07/08/2009 7:12:44 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Man50D

They need to figure out which lie is gonna be the official one.


31 posted on 07/08/2009 8:07:12 AM PDT by weezel
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To: Man50D

They need to figure out which lie is gonna be the official one.


32 posted on 07/08/2009 8:09:01 AM PDT by weezel
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Duplicity needs two focal points. Remember how you were taught in elementary school to draw an elipse?


33 posted on 07/08/2009 8:18:25 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Man50D
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34 posted on 07/08/2009 8:22:31 AM PDT by IrishPennant (RLT = Radical Left Terrorism...feel it????)
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To: Gordon Pym

It is already too late ... more than 50% of the voting public believe they have elected an affirmative action messiah to ‘heal all wounds’. They cannot be convinced he is to blame for any evil in America, and his bosses fall back on the ‘he inherited this mess from Bush’ mantra if challenged. Since the enemedia has programmed the democrat fools to believe ALL evil has origin in the 8 years of Bush rule, it is too late to reach the idiot voting public since the Constitutional Republic has been abrogated by abrogating the contract.


35 posted on 07/08/2009 8:22:56 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: stuartcr
"Do you really think that people in a maternity ward actually remember every baby born there, even after these many years?"

Not necessarily, but when you look at the peculiars of Obama's birth, there are enough anomalies that one might remember...

...Interracial couples were nowhere near as common as they are today and would have likely stood out to a certain degree.

...His mother's legal name was "Stanley". I can still recall people with unusual names decades later, merely as a result of their name.

...I would suspect that in Hawaii in 1961, "Barak Hussein Obama" would have caught a hospital nurse or ob/gyn's attention...especially one with a mother named "Stanley".

If his name had been "Earl Smith" and his mother, "Sarah Smith," I'd agree with you completely. As such, I think there's a fair chance somebody would have some type of recall...

36 posted on 07/08/2009 8:27:09 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Gordon Pym

It’s already too late. That silence you hear about the economy recovering is your sign. Business is in the pooper already.


37 posted on 07/08/2009 8:49:47 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Obama really did believe that stuff he was saying during the campaign)
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To: Man50D

Great article by WND.


38 posted on 07/08/2009 9:04:19 AM PDT by FTJM
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To: Venturer

I agree, there certainly should be a paper trail, but to expect someone to remember a particular baby being born over 40yrs ago, is not realistic. I don’t know anyone in the entire city where I was born, much less anyone that remembers my birth, same with my wife.


39 posted on 07/08/2009 9:23:10 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: MHGinTN
Since the enemedia has programmed the democrat fools to believe ALL evil has origin in the 8 years of Bush rule, it is too late to reach the idiot voting public since the Constitutional Republic has been abrogated by abrogating the contract.

So how much of this is due to the dumbing down of the population by the NEA with arithmetic being replaced with self esteem classes and civics being replaced with global warming theology.

40 posted on 07/08/2009 9:23:26 AM PDT by Gordon Pym
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To: VRWCtaz

No, but a mixed marriage, or a child that may not look like one of it’s parents, is not uncommon in Hawaii and also many other cities where there are a large number of different ethnic births.


41 posted on 07/08/2009 9:25:16 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Gordon Pym

What has been replaced are the history of the Republic, civics lessons which address law and order, and responsibility to behave in a civilized way so as to not endanger your fellow Americans. THAT is the legacy of the NEA marxism.


42 posted on 07/08/2009 9:26:13 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

In Hawaii, that isn’t the case.

While you can clearly recall particular names, perhaps those working there, cannot. They would probably be in their 60s or 70s by now, wouldn’t they?

While it may have caught someon’e attention then, perhaps the person, who’s attention was caught, is no longer living, or really doesn’t remember?

Until someone actually does remember, and have proof, then we just won’t really know, will we?


43 posted on 07/08/2009 9:31:51 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: MHGinTN
What has been replaced are the history of the Republic, civics lessons which address law and order, and responsibility to behave in a civilized way so as to not endanger your fellow Americans. THAT is the legacy of the NEA marxism.

Yes, I agree with you completely. My point is that the NEA has purposely turned all children in their care into the brutish class required to serve their self proclaimed philosopher king. They have been so successful in cranking out morons that their purpose has become obvious.

Thank God for the growth in homeschooling

44 posted on 07/08/2009 9:32:39 AM PDT by Gordon Pym
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To: Venturer
Doctors who attend births get paid. Did you ever sign a baby out of a hospital without a Pediatrician to allow it to leave? He gets paid too. ' Hospitals also get paid. Where are the records?

They were likely destroyed decades ago, since very few hospitals keep records for 40 years. The law only requires them to keep records for something like 7 years (I don't remember the exact number, but I know it's a lot less than 40).

Even if they were not destroyed and still exist, they'd be tucked away in some cardboard box in a warehouse covered in dust and burried under dozens of other boxes.

Why would anyone at the hopsital go through the hassle of digging them up just to satisfy some wingnut birther?

45 posted on 07/08/2009 9:33:22 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Joe 6-pack
Interracial couples were nowhere near as common as they are today and would have likely stood out to a certain degree.

Not in Hawaii. Practically everyone there is of mixed race, and it's been like that a long time.

46 posted on 07/08/2009 9:34:24 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity; stuartcr
"Not in Hawaii. Practically everyone there is of mixed race, and it's been like that a long time."

I can not speak knowledgeably of Hawaii; however, I suspect that most of the mixed race relations there are Caucasian and Pac. Islander. I can speak with some insight about Korea, and there, Caucasian relationships with Korean females are generally unremarkable, while a black dating a Korean will draw at least a little attention; I suspect this would have been the case in Hawaii almost 50 years ago.

Even if I'm entirely wrong on that count, you can't tell me that you wouldn't remember a woman you met (even casually) who introduced herself as "Stanley", and even with Hawaii's diverse populations, I would guess that a "Barak Hussein Obama" would have not been a typical name at that time.

I'm not now, nor have I ever said that this proves anything. A FReeper simply asked "what are the chances anyone would even remember?" and I merely suggested the circumstances of his (alleged) parentage would have been more memorable than others...

47 posted on 07/08/2009 9:43:17 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Man50D

I thought he was born in a manger?


48 posted on 07/08/2009 9:44:26 AM PDT by demsux
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To: Joe 6-pack

I believe your suspicions are incorrect. Korea isn’t America and it isn’t Hawaii. There’s a big difference between mixed couples in Hawaii and the rest of the US and Korea, for a number of reasons.

I certainly doubt I would remember any casual or business meeting with someone from over 40yrs ago.

I am only suggesting that I doubt anyone would remember.


49 posted on 07/08/2009 9:53:46 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr
Granted - now - in 1961, not so much.
50 posted on 07/08/2009 9:57:38 AM PDT by VRWCtaz (Tagline error - please hold)
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