Posted on 07/07/2009 10:52:55 AM PDT by traumer
URUMQI, China Mobs of Han Chinese wielding meat cleavers and clubs and groups of Muslim Uighur men beat people in the streets of the capital of China's Xinjiang region Tuesday. The government imposed a curfew as it tried to stem communal violence after a riot that killed at least 156 people.
Members of the Muslim Uighur ethnic group attacked people near the Urumqi's railway station, and women in headscarves protested the arrests of husbands and sons in another part of the city. Meanwhile, for much of the afternoon, a mob of 1,000 mostly young Han Chinese holding clubs and chanting "Defend the Country" tore through streets trying to get to a Uighur neighborhood until they were repulsed by police firing tear gas.
Panic and anger bubbled up amid the suspicion in Urumqi. In some neighborhoods, Han Chinese China's majority ethnic group armed themselves with pieces of lumber and shovels to defend themselves. People bought up bottled water out of fear, as one resident said, that "the Uighurs might poison the water."
The outbursts happened despite swarms of paramilitary and riot police enforcing a dragnet that state media said led to the arrest more than 1,400 participants in Sunday's riot, the worst ethnic violence in the often tense region in decades.
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The .... is hitting the fan
I believe the Post headline said something about “Ethnic Violence.”
Big Trouble in Big China?
I am surprised the Chinese don’t just wipe the towel-heads out.
We must control and regulate meat cleavers.....
Gee. Where’s the Left’s OUTRAGE here (as opposed to their outrage in Honduras’ president getting overthrown and deported)
Such crap.
Not quite...The Chicoms don’t put up with the Muslim BS like we in the West. They will send in the tanks....
Seems a bit out of character for muslims to be involved in such violent situations...
Hopefully they greased the cleavers with pork fat.
Love and peace is busting out all over in the 000bam-era.
The nation that cleaves together..........
ahh, forget it.
/sarc
Aren’t some of these peaceful people now in Bermuda, courtesy of the US taxpayers?
There are quite a few recent clips of the rioting on YouTube.
Some here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wIQRZyNbAg
Hard to know who’s really most at fault.
And to make matters worse, the Han apparently have unfairly denied the cuddly Uighurs the right to own meat cleavers.
A pox on both their houses. I can't say I really support the Han Chinese much.
Must be the Han Chinese causing all the problems.
You know, Tibet and all that.....
Uighurs are usually pretty peaceful, except when they're being trained by al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Even then they're really good guys at heart.
/sarc
To honor MJ?
And they’re good at chopping things up.
I expect they will. In the run-up to the Boxer Rebellion, the Chinese literally hacked 40,000 Chinese Christians to pieces in a matter of weeks using little more than machetes and axes. With modern equipment, I expect the process of liquidating the Uighurs to be quicker and more thorough, given that the Uighurs don't even look like the Chinese.
Then you can have your little victory dance.
The people throwing rocks at busses aren't the Chinese Police.
ML/NJ
Send Obama in!
The Chinese has been dealing with the Muslims in their West for years. The Western media acts like China is one big, happy united nation when in fact it only holds on to its western frontier by brutal violence and suppressing Uighur nationalism.
In China, the further a province is from Beijing, the less likely it is to follow the CCP in all ways. There is quite a bit of autonomy for the provinces, so long as they don't push back on major initiatives. The western provinces (Tibet (called XiZang" in China), Xinjiang, and QingHai make up their "west coast"... and 2 out of 3 certainly seem to be getting punished for failing to toe the line. In the internet age, these failures to obey are magnified, and thus the dragon's attention is compelled to make sure that they don't "lose face". Almost predictable, really.
>>>> A pox on both their houses. I can’t say I really support the Han Chinese much. <<<<<
Same here, my disdain is divided among both groups.
good old fasioned Han to Hand warfare..
Mobs weilding meat cleavers beat people in Chinses streets.
I object to the term ‘Beat’.
The title should read “ mobs weilding meat cleavers TENDERIZE people in Chinese streets.”
Thank you.
Why don't we ever get that kind of Communist over here?
I permanently lost every ounce of sympathy for any Muslim cause on 9/11.
I couldn't possibly care any less about the Uighurs and their political aspirations.
(Odd choices, I know... but it can't be Iran... they're about to democratize on their own. Not Iraq or Afghanistan... we're still there. Not Saudi Arabia... too much control over oil. Jordan? Their king seems almost rational. Pakistan? Nukes. Egypt? The Suez Canal. Those were the only 3 other state sponsors of terror I could think of!)
I believe we may have them here.
I recall a story about a man who shot several hunters because
they were coming at him about his hunting on their hunting grounds.
I may be wrong but it was some name like that, I think.
I could care less about Muslims as well but the presence of the Uighurs in the western frontier of China gives that nation an edge of instability. Anything that weakens China internally benefits our nation.
There were not any Chinese in this region (Han or otherwise) until about 100-200BC. This whole region was Caucasian up to that time and have been losing to the Chinese ever since. There Caucasian only graveyards in the region that were still being used as late at the 1300’s AD.
Not guilty.
Many of us lost any and all sympathy for all things Muslim on 9/11. And that's that.
Regardless, the documentary The Silk Road produced by NHK Japan and China TV in 1980 provides an excellent view of Uighur culture, since a huge stretch of the old road runs straight through what is now Uighur territory.
There are a few versions of it out there, one is 3 DVDs and another seems to be more than a dozen.
On The Presence Of Non-Chinese At Anyang

Blonde Haired Chinese
That was Hmong. Forget it.
Don’t know of any Hans here. Does anyone else?
Obama... quick, send in the human shields.
I suppose it would be anti-PC to remember the little Chinese sidekick to the Blackhawks comic book characters who carried a meat cleaver and was called Chop-Chop.
Or am I in the throes of Alzheimers?
perfect balance in the world.
Heartless? If my chest were a cannon i would shoot my heart at them (paraphrasing Melville).
The calendar in my head is stuck on 9/12/01.
Heads up, Bermuda!
Its’ comming .........don’t worry. The Glorious Leader will put down all uprisings with an IRON HAND.
Yeah, but will he teach totalitarian patriotism to the Socialist Motherland, build a gigantic army in order to conquer--I mean, liberate the rest of the world, and tell kids to cut their hair, take the jewelry out of their noses, and dress neat?
That person was Hmong and they are not native to China.
"URUMQI, China - After years of controversy and political intrigue, archaeologists using genetic testing have proven that Caucasians roamed Chinas Tarim Basin 1,000 years before East Asian people arrived."
"The research, which the Chinese government has appeared to have delayed making public out of concerns of fueling Uighur Muslim separatism in its western-most Xinjiang region, is based on a cache of ancient dried-out corpses that have been found around the Tarim Basin in recent decades."
It is unfortunate that the issue has been so politicized because it has created a lot of difficulties, Victor Mair, a specialist in the ancient corpses and co-author of Mummies of the Tarim Basin, told AFP
[snip]
Most of hmong people are native to and live in China, while the rest are native to Vietnam and Lao.
WSJ:
Uprising in Urumqi
Beijing cracks down on a Muslim minority.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124698224912106465.html
Authoritarian states are typically less stable than they appear, and China is no exception. This week’s ethnic riots in western Xinjiang province are the deadliest on record since the end of the Cultural Revolution in the 1970s. Until the Chinese government is truly accountable to its citizens — both the majority Han and other ethnic minorities — these kinds of deadly uprisings will continue.
Sunday’s riots started when around 3,000 ethnic Uighurs, including many high-school and college students, gathered to protest ethnically motivated killings in a factory in China’s southern Guangdong province. The riots turned violent but, thanks to China’s information firewall, no one knows exactly why. State-run media report that Uighurs had attacked Han Chinese and count at least 156 people killed and more than 1,000 injured.
Government outlets blamed Uighur “separatists” and labeled U.S.-based Rebiya Kadeer, president of the World Uighur Congress, the “mastermind” of the violence. Ms. Kadeer denies this in an article on a nearby page. Yesterday, thousands of Han Chinese, armed with homemade weapons, swarmed the streets of Urumqi, calling for revenge. Police stopped them with tear gas, but not before they had destroyed some Uighur shops. Other protests and violent outbreaks ripped across the city.
China’s draconian policies in Xinjiang stem in part from fears that the Uighurs, a Muslim ethnic group who speak a Turkic language, want to secede from China. The province is rich in oil and gas reserves and shares a sensitive border with Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan and Russia (which has tried to foment uprisings in Xinjiang in the past). There are about 10 million Uighurs in Xinjiang.
But these fears are no excuse for China’s punitive and often violent suppression of the Uighurs. Beijing has poured money into a quasimilitary conglomerate, the “Bingtuan,” which runs businesses and large farms in the region. Bingtuan jobs often go to Han Chinese immigrants who receive economic incentives to move west. Meanwhile, a 2006 government policy encourages migration in the opposite direction — i.e., getting young Uighur men and women to work in coastal factories. The program is designed to get young Uighurs to “integrate” (read: marry) into Han society.
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