St.Catherines is also home to the oldest icon of Christ which dates, as I understand, to pre iconclastic times.
Posted on 07/06/2009 8:26:38 PM PDT by AKSurprise
More than 800 surviving pages and fragments from the The Codex Sinaiticus, which was written in Greek on parchment leaves in the fourth century, have been reunited.
Last year The British Library put The Book of Psalms and St Mark's Gospel online, and now the remaining pages have been made free for public use for the first time.
Along with the Codex Vaticanus, the Codex Sinaiticus is considered the oldest known Bible in the world. Originally more than 1,460 pages long and measuring 16in by 14in, it was written by a number of hands around the time of Constantine the Great.
It offers different versions of the Scriptures from later editions of the Bible, notably in St Mark's Gospel which ends 12 verses before later versions, omitting the appearance of the resurrected Jesus Christ.
The reunification of the book is the culmination of a four-year collaboration between the British Library, Leipzig University Library in Germany, the Monastery of St Catherine in Mount Sinai, Egypt, and the National Library of Russia in St Petersburg, each of which hold different parts of the manuscript.
They hope that by bringing together the digitised pages online, the project will help scholars worldwide to research in depth the Greek text, which is fully transcribed and cross-referenced.
"The Codex Sinaiticus is one of the world's greatest written treasures," said Dr Scot McKendrick, Head of Western Manuscripts at the British Library.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
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Jiminy christmas. How many centuries did it take the greeks to learn to put spaces between words??
It’s a piece of garbage.
http://www.1611kingjamesbible.com/codex_sinaiticus.html/
Let people decide that for themselves.
About as many as it took the Hebrews to learn to put vowels in.
Well, the hebrews have an excuse. They talk without vowels!
ping-a-ling
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Ping to read later
An interesting aspect of old manuscripts: The oldest ones are the worst, and have the most mistakes. The best ones were used, and used up. Whereas a copy that you didn’t and couldn’t use would become scrap. That is how one of the three copies of Magna Carta was found by a fellow looking for scrap parchment that he used to line jackets.
The benefits of the old public (private) school eduation.
Greek was first written around 2000 BC, but on expensive parchment, so cramming words together to get the maximum number on the page would be positive value. Also note: punctuation marks were also not present. Ancient Hebrew of course had no vowels, making it even more of a challenge.
In a few years, text writing will go the way of heiroglyphics, as the next generation you-tubes its way to barbarism.
Most informed adults do.
However, having a link to the discussion is always a good thing.
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The site complains that Sinaiticus has the apocryphal books in it but so so did the 1611 edition of KJV.
The site complains that Sinaiticus has Mark 16:9-20 (the long ending) erased but doesn't note that Codex Vaticanus omits it also.
Garbage website.
There are a number of versions of the Bible around. I need to buy one. So according to Biblical scholars, which modern, and affordable, version is most closely aligned to the original Bible?
I don’t know about the scholars but I like the NIV.
Very well could be true of the masses in the not so distant future. literacy along with math will decline in use by the regular joe. But someone somewhere needs to be literate. Laws and contracts will still be on paper.
You see, I don’t know what “NIV” is!!??!
And....”Go online and you can find samples of various translations so you can look before you buy. “
That’s the point - I don’t know if these translations are correct.
I’m soliciting your recommendations. I read the Bible a while back and need to refresh my memory. So if you two can get together and recommend a Bible, I’d be most appreciative.
I’m not on a mission to destroy the Baptist church or disprove that Noah loaded critters, two by two, on the Ark.
Thank you.
I like the Douay-Rheims Bible
http://www.drbo.org/
Thanks for the link, fatima. I’ll check it out tomorow.
With the current administration rewriting contracts because they want to, contracts won’t be of much interest either.
Unions thugs get twice the GM and Chrysler share of other bond holders.
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You can find it online here.
marked for later
My recommendation is first get a Greek/English Interlinear, which is a word for word translation from the Greek to English along side an English translation. Many are readily available for a few dollars.
Others are online also for free.
Then you can follow the Bible's Greek and compare translations.
The same can be done with an online Hebrew/English Interlinear.
You can also find lexicons and Strong's Bible Dictionary online.
There are plenty of resources available to you to educate yourself and decide what translation most nearly fits your needs. You should do your own research.
A word about “correct” translations and the work of translating:
Every translator has to decide to what degree he is going to be literal on the one end of the translating spectrum or so explanatory that he produces, not a translation, but a paraphrase of the Scriptures on the other end. Most try for somewhere in between. Which one is more correct? Correct to what? A word for word dictionary meaning or the the translation of the ideas expressed no matter the words used?
There are different master texts that various translations are based upon, The Received Text, Westcott and Hort, Nestle-Aland. They too have strengths and weaknesses.
No translation is perfect or perfectly “correct”, each has its strengths and weaknesses seeing that translating is a very human endeavor.
Which explains why the translators may choose to revise their translations from time to time.
My recommendation is start doing some research so you can decide what fits your needs and then come back to talk some more.
You're quite welcome.
Thanks everyone for the recommendations. I fully appreciate your input. My Bible study has been lacking in the past few years. I want to take the Bible up again and renew my meager understanding.
I like the idea of reading the old English translation, although my understanding of the script is rusty as a nail. (College studies of reading Beuwolf were many years ago.)
Maybe the King James version is the easiest for my purpose. I can explore other roads later.
Thank you all.
A question for you:
Is there a searchable CD of the King James version of the Bible? Where can I buy it?
Thanks.
Make sure you get one with plenty of footnotes. the footnotes let you know whenever there is a disagreement among the “experts” as to just what the word, or words, really mean, or if there is believed to be a translation error by some expert somewhere. Then if you are really energetic you know where and when and how to start out with a serious research effort to make your own determination who’s opinion you prefer, if any.
Or maybe not. Some people have the opinion that they want to read it themselves without input from any experts the first time around. That way you can form your own “virgin opinion” so to speak without any possible corruption from the “experts”. Then consult the expert opinion after forming your own opinions without interference. I never cared to get that fanatical about it, but some of my relatives did. After all, when you get right down to it, every version of the bible is in reality somebody’s opinion as to what the meaning of the original bible was. It just isn’t possible to get the “perfect” translation with zero uncertainty .
The king james version is the most famous and most widely circulated version of all time. At least it was up until the 1970s. I wouldn’t think you’d have trouble at all finding one. But then I’ve never tried to buy a bible. I’ve only ever owned two bibles in my whole life and that’s the one my parents gave me when I was a little kid, and the one I inherited when my grandmother died. Both were KJV. I suppose things may have changed alot since. But I can tell you with fairly high certainty that the KJV bible was *THE* bible of all english speaking peoples of the planet from the 1600s through the 1970s. Any version after the KJV that became more popular than the KJV, did so after the 1970s.
I did use to have a link to a free online bible. I’ll have to check some old zip disks for the link. could take some time.
I seriously doubt you will have any problems finding it on your own though.
Bet that keeps the conversations short.
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