most of them would barely qualify as a horse holder, and there isn't a big call for horse holders now days...
Posted on 07/05/2009 7:52:46 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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Tens of thousands of laid-off workers [...] have turned to retraining as a lifeline. Yet for all the popularity of these government-financed programs, there are questions about whether they actually work, even as President Obama’s stimulus plan directs $1.4 billion more to retraining and other services for people who have lost their jobs.
In Michigan, where the unemployment rate in May was 14.1 percent, the nation’s highest, 78,000 people are enrolled in the state’s No Worker Left Behind program and 7,800 are on the waiting list. At the Michigan Works job center here, where Mr. Hutchins applied for retraining money, thewait to attend an orientation session is up to two months.
Nonetheless, a little-noticed study the Labor Department released several months ago found that the benefits of the biggest federal job training program were “small or nonexistent” for laid-off workers. It showed little difference in earnings and the chances of being rehired between laid-off people who had been retrained and those who had not.
In interviews, the authors of the study and other economists cited several reasons that retraining might not be effective. Many workers who have lost their jobs are older and had spent their lives working in one industry. In need of a job right away, many pick relatively short training programs, which often have marginal benefits. Job retraining is also ineffective without job creation, a point made by several economists who have long cautioned against placing too much stock in it. Finally, workers trying to pick a new field cannot predict the future of the labor market, especially in a time of economic upheaval.
“I can’t tell you with any degree of certainty, and I’ve been doing it for 20 years, what the hot jobs are going to be,” said one of the author [...]
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The Government does little right. Who would hire a worker who went through Government “re-training?” They’d surely do their best to run your company into the ground.
to keep the unemployment as low as possible, the govt is hiring anybody off the street at staggering rates, of course, paying them with our tax money.
>> Yet for all the popularity of these government-financed programs, there are questions about whether they actually work, even as President Obama’s stimulus plan directs $1.4 billion more to retraining
Of course these programs work! Here’s a detailed roadmap of how the money waters the “green shoots of recovery”:
a) If you’s a big ‘Rat gangsta contributor, you work da machine and get your name on da list as a brotha what runs a retrainin’ thing... dig?
b) Da bling flows you way
c) You goes to fancy restaurants and spends da money... or gets yourse’f a new grille... or some wheels...
d) All dem bizness ownas what runs dem restaurants and dem car delas and such hires new workas.
There. See? Simple as ABC...
that is, “All ‘Bout Corruption”
The only ones benefitting from this retraining are the community colleges.
One word CETA.
The guy is clueless.
He’s going to be like someone trapped in quicksand and he sill drag us down with him.
Well written. Great post.
most of them would barely qualify as a horse holder, and there isn't a big call for horse holders now days...
And our children's tax money and our grand children's tax money and our great gran...................................
I knew a lady who enrolled in a job retraining program back during the Clinton years. It was very underwhelming, to hear her tell it. Very basic job training programs geared to entry-level positions. Certainly nothing satisfactory to someone coming from a skilled trades position or most white collar office jobs.
In all fairness, I don’t know if that’s the norm for these kinds of programs, or if the woman I knew had an atypical experience. Just sayin’ the one I do know about seemed to be basically worthless.
I didn’t realize working as a Walmart greeter required any re-training.
Retraining for what?
Obama and the democrats are intentionally, systematically annihilating the US economy, in order to grow the government.
I have just one thing to say about Obama's "green jobs": You want fries with that?
Pretty tough to do when you're completely out of money. When you leave you need a stake--a sum to pay for rent on a room or apartment, pay for food, transportation, utilities, and a phone while you look for work. If you're penniless because you've been out of work for months, where could you get that stake? Or afford even to travel to another state, like Texas? BTW, once you've lost your job and are in financial trouble you usually can't pass a credit check to rent a room or apartment.
The whole “green jobs” thing is such a crock. There are very few and I’ll be the Government needs to shell out mega $$ just to sustain one “green” job. But, hey, it sounds great as a sound byte to the Sheeple.
I do appreciate you pinging me to these posts but this is so wrong I refuse to answer. “My levee My dream” is an idiot. The people in-training will never surpass the 6.5 million fired. Obama is shrinking the economy by design. He is stopping progress. I’ll say it.. To Hell with that SOB.
Not in my mind. Really just make work/bailouts for the trainers. For the Students just more subsidized Unemployment. Gov’t contractors actually training people to fill nonexistent job openings.
I can. It's becoming a job retraining instructor.
High hopes. LOL. We are all hoping for change in 2012.
It probably works out to about a million dollars per “green job”, for a salary of maybe $50K. And let’s not forget about all the non-green jobs lost in the Obama ecosystem; coal miners, steel workers, cattle and pig farmers, etc. The whole “green jobs” scheme is a forced restructuring of the American economy so as to give a privileged few some over-hyped, non-sustainable jobs while making the vast majority of real workers dependent on government largesse.
I've been doing it for all of 3 seconds, and I can tell you that "bankruptcy attorney" is going to be one of the hot jobs.
“Nonetheless, a little-noticed study the Labor Department released several months ago found that the benefits of the biggest federal job training program were “small or nonexistent” for laid-off workers.”
Like this comes as news to anyone who doesn’t live in a hole out in a cornfield.
Vast fortunes are made “training” the hopelessly unemployable. This, as always is a government scam. “Community groups” get billions to train people who are not even competent to drool on themselves. But ACORN and Co. will win big.
The college graduates coming into the job market with a 4 year degree can’t find work. How is some passant retraining program going to help?
I’ll tell you what would work... Slash corp. taxes, get rid of all the regulatory B.S. and let the private sector solve the problem.
The whole “green jobs” scheme is a forced restructuring of the American economy so as to give a privileged few some over-hyped, non-sustainable jobs while making the vast majority of real workers dependent on government largesse.
My information from that period, from someone in dire need of any sort of training, was that in our area, the retraining programs consisted mainly of how to run an automated cash register. Not much training needed for that, of course.
Community colleges are up to their necks in political pull and state micromanagement, from what I have heard. They pick areas that were *hot* several years ago, ignoring saturation in various labor categories and creating sinecures for *teachers* in need of a job. One case I know something about involved a person who failed in running their own business in a hot field and who was then, through connections, made head of a retraining curriculum in that same field. They routinely get 17 students (close to the minimum needed to retain the program), graduated 12 and have 8 working at all and 5 working in the chosen field a year later.
What training is going to pay off in this economy? I know the community colleges track graduates and their success/failure at finding work in the field for which they trained. I wonder if there is a list of these results somewhere?
The money quote.
Michigan is not gaining jobs. Neither is most of America. What jobs aren't being destroyed are fleeing overseas.
This is like the old 1930s CCC program except you're not handling a shovel building fire trails but taking classes employing teachers.
True! I have seen it with my own eyes.
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