Posted on 07/05/2009 4:45:55 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
Behind the bipartisan motives for employer-provided health insurance.
On Tuesday the CEO of Wal-Mart, long the bête noire of the American left, issued a joint statement with SEIU head Andy Stern and Center for American Progress President John Podesta, two close allies of Barack Obama, supporting the administration's health reform efforts. The letter called for bipartisan reforms that include an employer mandate to purchase health insurance for their employees.
An odd alliance? Maybe. But when two camps eye the same goal for separate reasons, they can become unlikely bedfellows.
(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...
when a company becomes large enough it will almost always become part of the establishment. This usually involves fear of and favors from politicians and their media friends, and laws that tend to discourage their competitors.
This is going to HURT Walmart, IMHO.
same here and I will not be going there now either
Follow the MONEY! Some traitor is getting rich at the expense of America and the Corporation.
I prefer Meijer stores anyway. The prices are comparable and I find a lot more of the American made goods I prefer.
Just a cynical way of burdening the smaller rivals with costs that Wal-Mart can afford given their enormous revenue base and the efficiencies and leverage on Suppliers they are able to realize. More consolidation in an already suffering sector.
What that means is that Walmart has figured out that in Socialist/Statist countries with leftist control, they must worship at the altar of the state and buy - overtly and otherwise - influence where influence is to be had.
They have also figured out that as a capitalist enterprise, they must curry favor with the party in power, and they have long been vulnerable to a possible power shift from the Republicans to the Democrats. That power shift is now complete, and Walmart must reposition politically to find new allies to counter the anti-Walmart, anti-profit, anti-globalization, pro-Labor coalitions within the Democrat party.
No surprises here .... and it is not very complicated at all.
People called me a troll here when I badmouth walmart
o.k. Walmart.... I never liked your quality anyway, but thought you were a friend to the ordinary person.... no more... in my life, you are going the way of G.E. the traitor companay who sold to the enemy and who obamanation is trying to make rich with cap and trade. when I see the GE commercials on TV about energy, I want to gag!
I don't shop at Wal Mart because of any political stance. I shop there because it is right down the road and it beats everybodys prices. End Of Story!
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I have avoided Target, and now Walmart/Sams Club will be next...I refuse to support the left anymore. It’s sad about Walmart’s decision. I will also drop any other affiliations in next year that are associated with this marxist administration. There are other places to get prescriptions filled, and other places to buy what we need. Although it may cost a little more... do we really want to support those destroying our country. Besides China is one who benefits from Walmart...not USA.
We need to help create jobs in USA...because this Admin is failing at that intentionally, imho.
Half of what we buy is a want, and not a need anyway. Time to start bartering and buying used, but some things need to be new. We need to investigate who to buy from that supports our point of view. Post what you find out, and I will too...so we all put our money where our mouth is from now on.
Wally ping.
Kinda funny to hear all the Free Traders now spin Wal Mart now....as they have worshiped at the feet of Wal Mart...claiming that it is the symbol of “free enterprise”
Now, Wal Mart is in bed with the Socialists....and probably the most liberal union in the nation.
More proof that....if you support Free Trade with Communist China....You...Are...A....Communist
Wal Mart could be our future “state run store”.....which would probably be all right with the Free Trade Comrades
Well, WalMart has unmaksed themselves as no friend of the US taxpayer, that does change things mel.
Who couldn’t see this coming though? As if now there will be card check and somehow WalMart will be spared if it does come around to their automatically opening front doors..
To me, what is missing in the US Corporate Culture is guts, they have none, Wally World is merely throwing the US taxpayer to the croc hoping that it will escape the same fate...
Capitalism is amoral.
When capitalists think the Left is winning, they will become Leftists.
They will even sell the rope for their own hanging.
Surely you’re not surprised?
Awww man. Wal-Mart is a habit I’ll now have to break. Shoot a monkey!
Actually in inflationary times industrial sized amounts of a product are one of the best defenses against galloping inflation.
Pugsley’s Alpha Strategy is a great hedge against what the Obamao and the Fed is doing to the dollar, especially with imported items.
Shopko! Please, no one tell me they’re Lefty affiliated... I have to drive 30 miles to get to one, but they’re really a great store.
I used to like Target but they do not carry
all I need so I go to Wal-mart for all else.
Looks like I’ll be going to over-priced
Kroger or TT as much as I hate to.
Damn, our choices are dwindling.
They say we’re obese now, wait til 0 gets
through. We’ll either be over weight, on welfare with
only enough money for beans and gravy
or skinny as hell, dying on the hospital doorsteps.
They’ve been hand in hand with the Chinese Reds for fifteen years. Effectively bankrupting KMart and forcing American companies to open shop with the Maoists.
Ever buy the large size Mayonnaise at Costco? Takes a year to use up, occupies too much refrig space and, in the end, is not much cheaper on a per unit basis than what you can get at other discount type stores.
This is but one out of literally hundreds of examples.
i just spent $100 on a new phone, but not at Walmart where all my other phones came from
i dont care if a have to pay a little more, but even there i dont think i did
thanks for the tip from FR
This isn’t capitalism. This is a big corporation embracing socialism. The entrepreneur is the engine of capitalism, not massive global corporations.
Some call it corporatism when the government picks winners and losers in the market. That is not good. The point of economic activity is getting the consumer goods he uses. It is not to protect certain producers. It is not to do what “big business” says to do.
The consumer is the one who is screwed by corporatism through higher prices and lower quality goods.
A free market would be one in which the government would not interfere in health care, would not impose food and drug regulations, would not impose wage limits.
All the bad economic news comes down to one root cause: government intervention in the economy.
The government is, was, and always will be the problem.
So what else is new? Wal-Mart, the emporium for Chi-Com products, had the Hilde-Beast on its board while actively driving American companies to manufacture in China. I don’t set foot in Wal-Mart.
One commenter on the fForbes site said Soros bought a lot of Walmart stock a couple monmths ago. Yikes.
While I don’t know what Walmart does or doesn’t offer for benefits, if they want to keep out the unions and continue to be Toyota and not a GM then they just need to be like Toyota and undercut any appeal of unionizing and just up the benefits available plus a unique level of profit sharing, etc.
But if Walmart is making this gesture (and that is what it is as of now right now) to grease the wheels of healthcare mandates that will hurt smaller competitors then I will be done with Wally World too.
“The carefully worded letter does not commit Wal-Mart to anything other than support of a bipartisan effort to reform health care.”
Calm down, everyone. ;)
Ping To #29. Meant to include you. :)
I think the cap and trade bill was supposed to clear that up. It was the east and west coast liberals way to literally tell flyover country to die.
Soon when you show up on the hospital door, you will have to wait three or four months for an exam. But strangely, abortions will be done right away.
We need to beware of “Buy American”. Just because it says it, don’t mean it’s true, just like “organic” may or may not be organic.
Also some American producers will now raise their prices even more but it don’t make the product any better. I’m just saying.
Until we change government in this country and companies can stop playing political games to survive, nothing will be different.
Walmart takes the flack because they are so big and get reported on. How many other companies are going along with this and not getting press?
I don’t buy the large mayo and such from Costco as it would spoil before the three of us would use it. I do love their olive oil, soy sauce and Parmesano Regianno in large sizes. It is a good deal if it is a product that keeps well.
Here in Michigan Spartan foods is pushing grown in Michigan produce.
We noticed a LONG time ago that bulk is not cheaper for households on staple items. Noticed that bigger packaging actually has a higher per unit price a lot of the time. Many people are being taken with bulk.
Gabz, where are you?
I miss you! :-)
And gladly paid for by the guvmint with taxpayer's money.
Here’s an article regarding this from the WSJ:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124649408574683287.html
Me too. Among other things. But I don't mind. Eventually, people realize the truth and fall in line. Don't feel bad because you are years ahead of the others. You are in esteemed company. ;)
I might add that we will be paying for other countries abortions aren’t we?
I thought these guys were pretty much with the left since the Clintons.
Well, isn't that interesting?
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You don't know the half of it. I was on a thread recently where the Walmart warriors were out in force, attempting to convince all that Walmart, a company that pushes Communist Chinese goods by the train load, is just wonderful..
People called me a troll here when I badmouth walmart
I did aswell. China most likely owns the USA.
http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html
Don’t you know that nearly everyone here is a “troll” or a “bot” of something simply because you disagree with something or someone. LOL.
another reason to shop elsewhere
Thanks for the excellent analysis.
I think they are trying their best to stay alive in the era of Baraq. If they can trade healthcare support for staying non-union, that may be the best they can hope for in this environment.
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