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1 posted on 07/05/2009 1:38:55 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama might provide the air power for an invasion of Honduras. Remember when Clinton put Aristide back into power?


2 posted on 07/05/2009 1:40:24 PM PDT by GeronL (freeping on a PS3)
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To: Sub-Driver

Smoke ‘em!


3 posted on 07/05/2009 1:41:19 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out?)
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To: Sub-Driver

The weaker we become / appear, the bolder they will act.


4 posted on 07/05/2009 1:41:49 PM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Sub-Driver

The goons are sending in the dogs. God, please help Honduras!


5 posted on 07/05/2009 1:41:56 PM PDT by RoadTest (I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. - John 14:6)
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, with the formidable enemies that Honduras now has, the vultures are going to try and move in to pick Honduras apart, I fear...


6 posted on 07/05/2009 1:44:56 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Yes, it seems like it is Obama’s plan to pay off his marxist friends by giving them free democratic countries.


9 posted on 07/05/2009 1:47:00 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Sub-Driver

10 posted on 07/05/2009 1:47:18 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: Sub-Driver
This is what we get for not being tougher on our home grown _________ists...

11 posted on 07/05/2009 1:53:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A new Dark Ages made all the more terrible and prolonged by the sinister powers of science.")
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To: Sub-Driver

I was told this last week by friends who live in Honduras. I think I reported it on a thread about the Honduran situation.

However, my friends who live in the NW corner of the country (much nearer to Guatemala and El Savador than Nicaragua) couldn’t confirm that it was anything more than a rumor.


18 posted on 07/05/2009 2:16:13 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Sub-Driver

They’re sending in the troops over this? And they call us “aggressive”...


19 posted on 07/05/2009 2:17:21 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hopefully we still have some patriots in the military that will ignore Obama and pull an Iran-Contra type operation to funnel some weapons to the anti communists in Hondurus.


20 posted on 07/05/2009 2:25:30 PM PDT by apillar
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To: Sub-Driver
The interim government said it had contacted the Organization of American States to express its willingness to enter dialogue. The OAS earlier on Sunday suspended Honduras for refusing to reinstate Zelaya.

I hope that isn't true. There is nothing for them to discuss with that collection of Bolivarian vipers. The OAS has contravened its own charter by meddling in Honduran affairs.

22 posted on 07/05/2009 2:28:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Sub-Driver
From the Charter of the Organization of American States

Article 13

The political existence of the State is independent of recognition by other States. Even before being recognized, the State has the right to defend its integrity and independence, to provide for its preservation and prosperity, and consequently to organize itself as it sees fit, to legislate concerning its interests, to administer its services, and to determine the jurisdiction and competence of its courts. The exercise of these rights is limited only by the exercise of the rights of other States in accordance with international law.

Article 19

No State or group of States has the right to intervene, directly or indirectly, for any reason whatever, in the internal or external affairs of any other State. The foregoing principle prohibits not only armed force but also any other form of interference or attempted threat against the personality of the State or against its political, economic, and cultural elements.

Article 20

No State may use or encourage the use of coercive measures of an economic or political character in order to force the sovereign will of another State and obtain from it advantages of any kind.

Article 21

The territory of a State is inviolable; it may not be the object, even temporarily, of military occupation or of other measures of force taken by another State, directly or indirectly, on any grounds whatever. No territorial acquisitions or special advantages obtained either by force or by other means of coercion shall be recognized.

Article 22

The American States bind themselves in their international relations not to have recourse to the use of force, except in the case of self­defense in accordance with existing treaties or in fulfillment thereof.

24 posted on 07/05/2009 2:30:58 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Sub-Driver

WIth Obama’s approval, no doubt


27 posted on 07/05/2009 2:41:18 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Sub-Driver
Trouble in Iran, North Korea, Central America and a Marxist in the White House; do we need to see the Four Horsemen and a plague to get the picture?
29 posted on 07/05/2009 2:51:10 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Barack the Messiah: Never in the field of US politics have so many waited so long for so little.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I believe we have a mutual defense treaty with Honduras, duly ratified by congress, that predates the leftists Obama and Zelaya by many years.

But men who ignore the Constitution of their own countries cannot be relied upon to enforce treaties that hamper their socialist agendas.


30 posted on 07/05/2009 3:03:30 PM PDT by Iron Munro (With Obama in charge things are going to get worse. Then They'll get a lot worse..)
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama to Ortega: Oh, Chavez thinks this is a good idea? Oh ok, go ahead, you have my permission.


35 posted on 07/05/2009 3:18:48 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

nice of Obama to green-light so many projects.

Honduran Military Told to Turn Back Ousted President’s Jet
(Plane Redirected to El Salvador)
Fox News | July 05, 2009 | AP
Posted on 07/05/2009 1:41:12 PM PDT by Ron C.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2286091/posts


47 posted on 07/05/2009 3:43:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Here is some info about US military presence in Honduras.

Excerpted from US Troops Wait out Honduras Upheaval

No American forces were called back from the Soto Cano air base in Honduras, 60 miles from the capital, where about 600 U.S. forces serve on rotations.

The Pentagon has had a presence at Soto Cano since the 1980s, assisting air missions coming and going from Latin America. The hub typically gets busy for search-and-rescue operations during hurricane season.

"No more troops are coming here and none of us are leaving," reported Air Force Lt. Candace Park by telephone from Soto Cano on Monday morning.

Likewise, the U.S. Southern Command kept its group of military officers intact and on assignment at the U.S. Embassy, said Southcom spokesman Jose Ruiz from Miami. There were no plans for reinforcements or withdrawal in the capital, he said.

On Sunday, the U.S. Embassy in Tegucigalpa posted a notice on its web site instructing Americans "to remain in their homes or hotels" unless they were leaving the country or had travel "of a life or death nature."

It also told Americans planning to travel to Honduras to stay away.

52 posted on 07/05/2009 3:45:57 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Sub-Driver

Judging by the pictures CNN just showed, it appears that the military has a blockade on the runway...


59 posted on 07/05/2009 4:03:34 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m just curious. What gives the OAS any jurisdiction over the affairs of a sovereign nation? And how can they force the democracy of that nation to accept a despot back as the leader of their country, when they have voted otherwise?


64 posted on 07/05/2009 4:16:55 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady
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Can we volunteer? It’s been awhile since I’ve seen action, but I’m game to shoot at Daniel Ortega’s goons.


65 posted on 07/05/2009 4:17:29 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama’s tenure will end up being one of those games of “Risk” that you just want to forget and start again.


66 posted on 07/05/2009 4:18:46 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: Sub-Driver

This seems like the 1980s—if CARTER had won!


67 posted on 07/05/2009 4:20:40 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: Sub-Driver

Hussein will likely encourage the communists to destroy liberty in Honduras. He is, after all, a hater of freedom.


70 posted on 07/05/2009 4:33:38 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Ortega is out of his mind.


73 posted on 07/05/2009 4:44:44 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Sub-Driver

Has the Cocaine Highway been disrupted?

Sure does sound like it.


77 posted on 07/05/2009 4:51:16 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Sub-Driver

The latest:

Zelaya’s plane circles Honduran runway, can’t land

http://www.breitbart.com/print.php?id=D998JLB80&show_article=1


80 posted on 07/05/2009 4:55:07 PM PDT by Sub-Driver (Proud member of the Republican wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Sub-Driver

One question...
Where is Hillary Clinton? Do they have her on the “Biden” tour (i.e. run silent, run deep).

I find it facinating that she is rarely heard from. And when we do hear from her, she never is square with the White House line of B.S.

There is something going on here. Where is the press? Can’t they see this as well?


87 posted on 07/05/2009 5:19:14 PM PDT by F. dAnconia (We say: "It is, therefore, I want it. They say: "I want it, therefore it is")
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To: Sub-Driver

“But the new administration, which ousted Mr Zelaya over his plans for a referendum to allow him to change the constitution and seek re-relection,”

Change the constitution. Must be change you can believe in.


99 posted on 07/05/2009 6:27:40 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady
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Don’t worry Mr. Micheletti. Our brave Kenyan warrior is on his way. Oh, wait! He is on his way to meet with the Russian leaders who are also Mr. Noriega’s friends. Hmm. Better look somewhere else.


103 posted on 07/05/2009 6:46:17 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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Venezuelan, Cuban, and yes, even Russian/CSTO/Soviet (Red Army) and Chinese troops will back Nicaragua.


110 posted on 07/05/2009 7:31:49 PM PDT by Thunder90
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It’s time for ice cream again...


111 posted on 07/05/2009 7:34:50 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Sarah Palin: Sun Tzu of Politics)
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To: lizol; Lukasz; strategofr; GSlob; spanalot; Thunder90; Tailgunner Joe; propertius; REactor; ...

Coldwar2 PING!!!!

Venezuelan, Cuban and Russian/Chinese involvement highly suspected in this case.


112 posted on 07/05/2009 7:41:11 PM PDT by Thunder90
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125 posted on 07/05/2009 8:48:02 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: Sub-Driver

Honduran troops will turn Nicaraguan troops into dog food.


126 posted on 07/05/2009 8:57:39 PM PDT by sonofstrangelove (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: Sub-Driver

Freepers - it may be time to organize a freedom brigade and fly to Honduras! I know that if the Nic’s attack Honduras over their legitimate removal of an Ortega/Chavez dictator-in-the-making we need to give them our full support.

Is this the first front in the next stage of the war against Communisim? If Obama is too weak, compromised or fascist-loving to fight it we will need to do it on our own.


132 posted on 07/05/2009 9:14:35 PM PDT by Jack Black
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I thought the world was filled with nice people that would play nice if we didn’t “interfere in everyone’s lives”. That a softer gentler American would lead to a safer and more peaceful world.

Funny how just the opposite is happening... And quickly...

Fools that will cost many people their lives. If only there were any accountability...


135 posted on 07/05/2009 9:24:21 PM PDT by DB
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I have to say, Ubama’s “I’d Like To Buy The World A Coke” foreign policy agenda doesn’t seem to be working.


159 posted on 07/05/2009 11:02:24 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Sub-Driver

So... What can WE do to aid them? Can a state send their guard units to help out? Can a state put together an adhoc “militia” to come to the aid of a free nation?

Is there something we can do “internally” to defeat the enemy of freedom?

Think outside the box...


171 posted on 07/06/2009 5:50:07 AM PDT by myself6 (.)
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To: Sub-Driver

These militaries are roughly comparable, equipment-wise. Honduras probably has better troops and training. One big problem I could see is Chavez using Nicaragua as a proxy, and maybe even sending some troops or aircraft. Direct invasion is impossible for Chavez, and he has no real power projection capability, but it wouldn’t take a whole lot to give the Nicaraguans an advantage.

I recall the Venezuelan Air Force doing some air refueling, but was that something they did with the Russians or a capability they have themselves?


188 posted on 07/06/2009 11:59:14 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're definitely in the Rise of the Empire era, but is Obama Valorum or Palpatine?)
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To: Sub-Driver

How many of them are Venezuelans under a different flag?


208 posted on 07/07/2009 9:17:48 AM PDT by Antoninus (Time to fight back--donate to Free Republic, then donate to www.sarahpac.com)
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To: Sub-Driver

Lets form a FR Battalion and go to Honduras for a “Hunting Trip”.


210 posted on 07/07/2009 11:11:22 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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