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To: pleikumud

All one needs to do is examine two or three different health care systems run by the government. IHS, VA, and whatever the system that Congress is under.

IHS, or Indian Health Service, a bit short of Doctors, facilities, and money finite number of people served.

VA or veterans administration, a good system, but limited clientele.

Congressional Health Care. Never hear of it. Never hear of it being short of funds, Never hear complaints by participants, limited number served.

If any of the above systems were to suddenly be saddled with the care of 300 million people, every negative problem they already face would be multiplied by a factor of 300 million.

Lastly, there is no provision in any founding document, that gives the US government the right, or the reason, to get into the health care business.


4 posted on 07/04/2009 6:35:27 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita
VA or veterans administration, a good system, but limited clientele.

Dear gibbering gods! Did you really mean that!?!

Lets see, more than 50 veterans (so far) infected with Hepatitis C, 7 (so far) by AIDS, a fair number of others of other less, ah, dangerous diseases. All due to improperly cleaned colonoscopy equipment.

And when this was discovered, some smarmy legal type in the General Council's Office of the Department of Veteran Affairs piped up that 'there's no way to prove whether these infections were even contracted in the VA system, rather than by the veteran's life-style.'

Prostate Cancer 'seed' treatment errors (deadly?) at the Philly VA, incompetent Doctors, over-worked nurses, 3 to 6 month waiting times for tests or to see a GP; sometimes one can't convince them to let you see a specialist. (Assuming they have a specialist in what you have...)

Don't believe me?

Ok; just visit your nearest Veteran's Administration Regional Hospital (not the clinics, they're usually run by third-party contractors, and therefore relatively good.)

Walk around, look at the waiting rooms, stroll down the wards and the various facilities. Talk to the veterans and see what they have to say about their care. Better yet, speak to the wives who may have driven three or four hundred miles to bring a sick spouse for treatment. Ask THEM what kind of treatment they get.

I'm dead serious; confirm for yourself the level of care given our veterans by a grateful federal government. Then tell ME it's a 'good system'.

Then imagine it will apply to all of us. (Non-government individuals, of course...)

11 posted on 07/04/2009 8:03:55 AM PDT by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)
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