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A Hillary-Obama rift in the making?
Hotair ^ | 7/2/2009 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 07/02/2009 4:45:01 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Jim Geraghty points out an unusual item from Reuters yesterday, in which the State Department announced that Hillary Clinton would not accompany Barack Obama to Moscow next week. The nation’s chief diplomat will stay home while Obama pursues nuclear reductions with Russia, one of his big diplomatic projects, one in which observers would presume that the Secretary of State would have substantial involvement:

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who broke her right elbow two weeks ago, will not accompany President Barack Obama to Moscow next week, a U.S. official said on Wednesday.

“Secretary Clinton is not going to go to Moscow,” the official told reporters, saying Clinton would name a State Department official to replace her on the Monday-to-Wednesday trip.

The official declined to explain why she would not travel and it was not immediately clear whether it was because of her injury. Clinton tripped and fell in the State Department on June 17 and had surgery two days later on her right elbow.

The administration and the State Department gave no indication that the injury would impede Hillary in her official duties. In fact, she’s slated to travel later this month — but without Obama.

Jim reminds us of the leaks during the Iran crisis that had both Hillary and Joe Biden questioning Obama’s reaction to the eruption of opposition protests. Those leaks didn’t come from Obama’s people, and even at that time raised questions about whether the partnership between Hillary and Obama was beginning to unravel. Jim thinks the timing of this announcement may corroborate those suspicions:

We saw some foreign-policy disagreements during the primary, and now the secretary’s traditional role as the point person on all events, crises, and issues beyond our borders is being hemmed in by various special envoys and czars. Yesterday, the White House announced Vice President Biden would be overseeing progress in Iraq.

Is she tiring of him? Is he tiring of her? Or is this just the usual sand in the gears?

I suspect that she may be tiring of him more than the other way around. As Jim notes, Hillary has options right now; she can run for governor in New York, or she can try another run at the Senate, if she doesn’t mind bumping Gillibrand out of her old seat. Obama has curtailed her reach since she took the job, promoting UN Ambassador Susan Rice to a Cabinet-level position and appointing czars to bypass Hillary in other areas.

Obama needs Hillary more than the other way around, especially as his economic policies start to tank. He needs a strong connection back to the DLC Democrats, which Hillary provides. He also needs a fall person on foreign affairs when things get bad. If there’s a split, it will damage Obama much more than Hillary, and it would set her up for a run at him in a 2012 primary, which may be her goal if Obama falls apart at the midterms.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhostatedept; hillary; obama; riff; soshillary
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1 posted on 07/02/2009 4:45:01 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Such a delight is WAY overdue.


2 posted on 07/02/2009 4:45:58 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: SeekAndFind

Time for Op Chaos, part Deux.


3 posted on 07/02/2009 4:46:43 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: SeekAndFind

Hillary: time to play your birth certificate card.


4 posted on 07/02/2009 4:46:54 PM PDT by library user
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To: SeekAndFind

Time to buy popcorn futures.....beer, too.


5 posted on 07/02/2009 4:46:59 PM PDT by stboz
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To: SeekAndFind

I have felt for a long time that Hillary would eventually get enough of BO and hit the trail. Also, consider this: Hillary is triangulating for 2012 and may be beginning to believe that BO is going to fail. Hillary does NOT want to be part of a failure. If she is tied to BO, she is doomed.


6 posted on 07/02/2009 4:47:52 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It was an amazing thing when the Clintons were out maneuvered by the Obama camp.

Could the First Grifters really be so politically neutered?


9 posted on 07/02/2009 4:49:13 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The University of Notre Dame's motto: "Kill our unborn children? YES WE CAN!")
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To: stboz

The Devil made me do it.


10 posted on 07/02/2009 4:49:26 PM PDT by stboz
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To: SeekAndFind

A “rift” has always been in the making. 0 thought he could “hide” her by giving her a title that didn’t mean much and she fell for it. It would appear that she is wising up. LOLOLOL


11 posted on 07/02/2009 4:49:40 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: SeekAndFind

A duel of the titans. Godzilla and the Smog Monster also had trouble getting along.


12 posted on 07/02/2009 4:49:44 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: devane617

Bill has disappeared as well. When his type lays low, I suspect he’s plotting and waiting.


13 posted on 07/02/2009 4:50:28 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: SeekAndFind

I predict Obama will fire her shortly after the 2010 elections, if not before.

I think he had every intention of firing her once he had her completely marginalized and no longer a political threat in 2010.

She might force his hand early though... hehe


14 posted on 07/02/2009 4:51:18 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: catbertz

yep. you just know the wheels are spinning.


15 posted on 07/02/2009 4:51:22 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s her elbow. She’s staying behind for rehab. I broke my elbow and it’s the worst break ever. If she doesn’t work it and follow directions, she’ll be in pain -and lame- for the rest of her life.
I am not going to be led down a path on this story that would get everyones hopes up.


16 posted on 07/02/2009 4:53:14 PM PDT by lojo
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To: SlipKid77

I wouldn’t be surprised if 0bama appointed an “Overseas Relations” CZAR even though Hillary is the Secretary of State...
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And beyond that, watch Hillary run against him in 2012 as a “AMERICAN PATRIOT WANTING TO FIX THE DAMAGE OF HIS RADICAL MARXISM”.....mark my words on that one!!


17 posted on 07/02/2009 4:53:45 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: devane617

The question is why the HildeBeast accepted the offer to play second fiddle to Obama in the first place. Did she think Obama was going to be a huge success and she wanted to be part of that success ?


18 posted on 07/02/2009 4:55:08 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: SeekAndFind

If Hillary and the rest of the democrats are smart, they will ALL start running from Obama as fast as they can. This country is getting fed up with Obama and Pelosi’s marxist take-over of America!


19 posted on 07/02/2009 4:56:10 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: libh8er

I really don’t think she had a choice—she had to accept or being branded as a sore loser. I have no doubt Hill and Bill are spinning every moment of every day looking for an opening to heap a steaming pile on BO. They would like to see him fail more than you and I.


20 posted on 07/02/2009 4:57:27 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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21 posted on 07/02/2009 4:57:31 PM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: freedomlover

Mothra reminds me a lot of Keith Olbermann.


23 posted on 07/02/2009 5:02:39 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: SlipKid77

So does that mean that Hillary would be a Marxist lite?
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As far left as she is, she is nowhere as RADICAL as Obama. She can run on that and take it to the bank. I think by then, if we still have elections and a Constitution by then, the DemoRats will totally fed up with the untold destruction created by Obama and his Czars.


24 posted on 07/02/2009 5:03:45 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: SeekAndFind; WestCoastGal; nw_arizona_granny; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; ...

.... Someone mentioned Chaos.

25 posted on 07/02/2009 5:05:57 PM PDT by LucyT
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27 posted on 07/02/2009 5:10:19 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: SeekAndFind

how on earth would Hillary find time for tours when her new job assignment is to route out all the gays in the various executive and ‘foreign service’ departments to see if their partners need the recently granted government benefits? priorities, priorities!


28 posted on 07/02/2009 5:11:33 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: catbertz

Hell yes! Its an Arkansas thing!

parsy, who lives in the Zen state


29 posted on 07/02/2009 5:11:50 PM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: SeekAndFind

“The official declined to explain why she would not travel”

It’s no secret. She has no say in foreign policy regarding Russia since Soetero stripped State of many of it’s responsibilities. It would serve the Bastard right if she resigned even if she did site health or family and not the real reason, that being that she’s not comfortable with his foreign policy.


30 posted on 07/02/2009 5:22:31 PM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: SlipKid77

But based on their past behaviors, (missile technology sale to China, Elian Gonzales, Travelgate, Lewinskygate, etc., etc.) she and Bill to me are still dangerous...
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Absolutely! Without any doubt. And that applies to ANY of the RAT “leadership”. Tyrants all. And even in that, there are “degrees” of evil and power-lust.


31 posted on 07/02/2009 5:24:39 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: SeekAndFind
Let his poll number drop a little more. Hillary is waiting to pounce.
33 posted on 07/02/2009 5:28:58 PM PDT by ryan71 (We're in deep kimchi!)
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To: SeekAndFind
They hate each other, always have and always will.

She took SecState with his promise to pay off her campaign debt. In other words, since she personally was owed lots of campaign debt $, contributors to Obama’s campaign paid Hillary personally.

He has cut her out of everything. The last thing he wants is a rival for media attention.

34 posted on 07/02/2009 5:29:42 PM PDT by MindBender26 (The Hellfire Missile is one of the wonderful ways God shows us he loves American Soldiers & Marines)
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Hillary is waiting to pounce.

Hillary vs Palin in 2012 ? I wait with baited breath....
35 posted on 07/02/2009 5:32:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Worm breath???


36 posted on 07/02/2009 5:39:01 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SeekAndFind
That would mean Obama failed miserably. I don't see this economy turning around in the next 3 1/2 years.

You might be right.

37 posted on 07/02/2009 5:39:05 PM PDT by ryan71 (We're in deep kimchi!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe they just don’t want her presenting another “Easy Button” to the Russians when she’s looped out on Vicodin from her “injury”.


38 posted on 07/02/2009 5:40:53 PM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: lojo
It’s her elbow. She’s staying behind for rehab

Of course that is exactly what it is. And it doesn't fit her image to be pontificating to the Russians in a sling. I marvel at people that want to make up some phoney "news" story about this.

39 posted on 07/02/2009 5:44:21 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: SeekAndFind
What was the over / under?

Took longer than many thought.

40 posted on 07/02/2009 5:54:16 PM PDT by Thom Pain (Defending the Constitution is CENTRIST; not RIGHT WING!)
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To: plain talk

The question is, is Russia going to jump over the line into Georgia on July 6th ?!?

Is North Korea going to jump over the line into South Korea on July 6th ?!?

Is Iran going to jump over the line into Iraq on July 6th ?!?

Is Venezuela going to jump over the line into Honduras on July 6th ?!?

Is China going to jump over the line into Taiwan on July 6th ?!?


41 posted on 07/02/2009 5:55:18 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Safrguns

Oooh, the battle of the Alinsky-ites!


42 posted on 07/02/2009 5:56:46 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. And NEVER GIVE UP!)
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To: EagleUSA
EagkeUSA, You have it correct. She knows things will be a mess by 2012. Next, she knows it will be very difficult to unwind the mess. She will run as a patriot version of Obama and vow to give the country back to the people.

Obviously, she looses the black vote, but considering the GOP is completely MIA, she will get the middle, especially the women, and other fringe groups. She will have more than enough to win.

The only thing Hill and Bill must accomplish is to make sure BO is seen as a left looney that has destroyed America.

Look for the Clinton machine to attempt a coup of the MSM, and then the fun begins. Actually, it may have already began--the MSM seems more and more hostile to BO. Makes one wonder...

43 posted on 07/02/2009 5:57:49 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: library user; ryan71; SlipKid77; devane617; libh8er; Safrguns; catbertz
I'm not sure what good it would do in the immediate future for Hillary to play a birth certificate card. It would still not make it possible for her to run for the Presidency. The theory being that if Obama were removed, Biden would be President and he would then appoint someone other than Hillary as V/P. Or, if Obama and Biden were removed, Nancy Pelosi would be President, and again, this would hardly help Hillary. I would think that her strategy would to be continually undermine him to knock out his chances for re-election in 2012, even WITH ACORN and future AMNESTY voters.

I just have to think that Hillary and Bill are marginalized and will continue to be while Hillary is S.O.S. and Bill is playing around in Haiti.

Perhaps though, in the near term, the reporters who are still somewhat loyal to Hillary and Bill will start turning up the heat on Obama. That could be part of Hillary's strategy, and now would be a good time to start with the unemployment numbers being so terrible.

44 posted on 07/02/2009 6:00:40 PM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: library user
Hillary: time to play your birth certificate card.

I still don't think Hillary was selected for SOS because zero wanted her.

45 posted on 07/02/2009 6:07:24 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Nope! They had to let the Jackasses play their hand, now Campaign 2012 starts in ernest! They let the Duufus dig his hole, and babble on like a runaway Parrot and now they have their “Silver Jackass Buttons!”


46 posted on 07/02/2009 6:07:39 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: SeekAndFind

If I were Hillery I would distance myself as much as I could because King Obama and his empire will come down with a crash. As soon as the cult followers realize they have been had by the worst lying piece of Communists crap America has ever seen.


47 posted on 07/02/2009 6:09:02 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: lojo

You forgot a major point, first she has to have immobilized in a cast for 6-8 weeks, then when the cast comes off, she starts the torturous rehab route of getting movement back in the elbow one small agonizing degree at a time. Been there, done that! but at least mine was Ice Hockey and not falling out of bed with HUMA:-)


49 posted on 07/02/2009 6:12:46 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: Enterprise; library user; ryan71; SlipKid77; devane617; libh8er; Safrguns; catbertz

Hillary will NOT touch the BC issue with a ten-foot pole. Although, it may be a ligit accusation that needs a serious investigation, it borders on looney-land stuff. If Hilliary made and accusation about the BC, it would be OVER for her. She would be having a drink with Sanford within days.


50 posted on 07/02/2009 6:13:56 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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