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Blaming the Burqa
Townhall.com ^ | July 2, 2009 | S. E. Cupp

Posted on 07/02/2009 4:02:50 AM PDT by Kaslin

French President Nicolas Sarkozy told Parliament Monday that the burqa, the traditional dress worn by some Islamic women, will no longer be tolerated in France. “The burqa is not a religious sign; it is a sign of the subjugation, of the submission of women,” said a straight-faced Sarkozy, whose lovely wife Carla Bruni has modeled high-end designers like Chanel, Versace, and Christian Dior. (Some may argue her best work is done wearing nothing at all. In 2008, a nude photograph of Bruni sold at auction for $91,000.)

Nevertheless, Sarkozy has decided banning the burqa is “a question of freedom and of women’s dignity.” Battling both gender inequality and religious extremism – and it’s not entirely clear which is Sarkozy’s target – is a courageous undertaking, but battling the burqa, as Western Europe has learned many times, is a losing fight, and completely irrelevant to either objective.

If you’re truly an advocate for women, at the very least you’d allow them to wear the clothes they want. Voting, driving and holding positions of authority are okay, but putting a robe on isn’t? And if you’re truly an advocate for religious freedom, you’d never ban a traditional religious practice that doesn’t impinge on anyone else’s rights.

But more importantly, if you’re an advocate for women’s rights or religious freedom, you’d want a stake in the global war on terrorism and Islamic extremism, which threatens both. When Sarkozy uses the burqa as a symbol of oppression – while France has happily criticized from afar the foreign policy of other Western states in the Middle East who want actual freedom from oppression – the irony is laughable.

But it’s also typical of the kinds of misdirected battles Sarkozy tends to pick, and one from which I hope our president doesn’t take any cues.

France has grappled with these issues for years, and banned head scarves and other religious garb from public schools in 2004. Divisions between French nationals and Muslims have grown both in width and in strength, and Sarkozy’s statement is in line with a recent ratcheting up of pro-secular rhetoric that looks to reduce the three major religions to their most common (and inoffensive) denominator.

As my friend Joe Grieboski, head of the Institute on Religion and Public Policy said, "It is almost as if the French Government has made it a mandate to eliminate religion from the public sphere. No faith is safe." And unfortunately, banning the burqa, even if only in sentiment, will please a great many French and Western Europeans.

But what would be characterized in the US as an aggressive foreign policy statement is in France merely a cultural commentary on race and nationalism. Seen through this prism, Sarkozy’s maudlin plea for “women’s dignity” is transparent and obscures the real agenda: promoting a Western, secular, (and, in particular, French) sensibility. It has little to do with women’s rights, and even less to do with religious freedom. And in case there was any doubt, it has absolutely nothing to do with national security.

But for the United States and the rest of the free world, national security is the main, if not only, issue. Getting along well with Muslims is a concern for political, not cultural, reasons. Americans don’t need Muslims to prove (by disrobing) their commitment to Western ideals. Americans just want to live in relative security, knowing Islamic extremism is being dealt with effectively. The United States keeps Islamic extremism separate from Islam, and by targeting the burqa, Sarkozy has lazily conflated the two.

France has the largest population of Muslims in Western Europe. For this reason, Sarkozy has a particular responsibility to get this right. Opting out of actual foreign policy in favor of an arbitrary (and offensive) sartorial debate is another example of inaction disguised as action.

All indications thus far are that President Obama plans to continue America’s commitment to democracy in the Middle East and security at home. But with timidity growing on Iran, it’s unclear just how forceful he intends to be. We should all hope he doesn’t revert to a Sarkozian model: all talk, no action.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: dhimmitude; korananimals; trop

1 posted on 07/02/2009 4:02:51 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I see nothing offensive against banning wearing veils to hide identity.

We wouldnt let a Christian walk into a bank wearing a ski mask, why allow Muslims to do it.


2 posted on 07/02/2009 4:10:29 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kaslin

Why can’t Sarkozy be our President?


3 posted on 07/02/2009 4:18:31 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: FreeSouthernAmerican

Obviously you don’t have to be born here.


4 posted on 07/02/2009 4:18:52 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: Kaslin
But for the United States and the rest of the free world, national security is the main, if not only, issue.

Wrong! Politcal Correctness is the main issue for Obama and most of the world. Under Bush, security was the main issue (but with some PC).

5 posted on 07/02/2009 4:18:58 AM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: Venturer

“We wouldnt let a Christian walk into a bank wearing a ski mask, why allow Muslims to do it.”

I’d prefer Helen Thomas were a ski mask.


6 posted on 07/02/2009 4:18:59 AM PDT by Londo Molari
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To: Kaslin

Thew only reason to wear a mask is so that someone can’t identify you while you commit a crime. Very few exceptions, and burkas don’t look like they would do too well on a ski slope.


7 posted on 07/02/2009 4:19:43 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama means Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: Londo Molari

oops — were = wear

where’s my coffee?


8 posted on 07/02/2009 4:19:45 AM PDT by Londo Molari
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To: Kaslin
If you’re truly an advocate for women, at the very least you’d allow them to wear the clothes they want.

Simple answer here -- let women wear the burqa if they want to. Oh wait -- Islam DOESN'T CARE what women want. . . . if you’re truly an advocate for religious freedom, you’d never ban a traditional religious practice that doesn’t impinge on anyone else’s rights.

The problem with this pious statement is that the burqa is a religious practice which is based on denying that women have ANY rights.

9 posted on 07/02/2009 4:20:14 AM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: Kaslin

Sarkozy stands up for women more than any women’s group.


10 posted on 07/02/2009 4:22:51 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is an illegal alien)
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To: Venturer

Only cowards want to hide their faces


11 posted on 07/02/2009 4:24:44 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Bad Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
If you’re truly an advocate for women, at the very least you’d allow them to wear the clothes they want.
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And if you’re truly an advocate for religious freedom, you’d never ban a traditional religious practice that doesn’t impinge on anyone else’s rights.

How many of the women actually want to wear the burqa, and how many are forced to wear it? How long did it take Afghani women to shed it - until they were beaten back into submission? Back when I was a cab driver I had a couple regular customers who were Muslim. The husbands trusted me to transport their wives because I was always respectful. I never looked directly at them or spoke to them when picking them up or bringing them home. By the time I delivered them to their destination they would have shed their burqa and be wearing American style clothes. I had a Muslim neighbor. The few times the wives were allowed outside the husband was always near and the wore the burqa. When he was at work they wore American style clothes and often talked to me in the back yard. Wearing a burqa was not their choice.
The burqa is not a religious practice but a cultural practice. The Koran does not require it, only calling for women to dress modestly. A full length dress with long sleeves and a scarf covering the hair is all that is required. This is all that’s required in many Muslim countries - the Burqa is an Arab custom, not a religious requirement.
12 posted on 07/02/2009 4:25:25 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: FreeSouthernAmerican

Sarkozy was born in France. His parents were from Hungary


13 posted on 07/02/2009 4:25:52 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Bad Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

I think the author doesn’t get it on a number of levels.

For one thing, the practical effect of a burka is to hide the identity of the person wearing it. In Spain, it was once forbidden for men to wear capes with collars that they could turn up over their faces, for this same reason; people who could not be identified hid behind their capes to murder each other. This is certainly something we have seen often with Muslims and it is a legitimate concern.

In addition, forbidding the burka takes the pressure off the Muslim women who do not want to wear one. Throughout neighborhoods in France, women are being forced to wear the burka, and this is what Sarkozy wants to prevent.


14 posted on 07/02/2009 4:37:23 AM PDT by livius
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To: R. Scott
If the burqa is an Arab custom, why were the Taliban enforcing it in Afghanistan? I suspect that it was pure opportunism, a nice way to suppress and marginalize women while characterizing any objections as religious bigotry.


15 posted on 07/02/2009 4:37:39 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

The Taliban were Wahabist Muslims - a sect of the Sunni from Saudi Arabia. Many of the Taliban were Arabs, not Afghani. Their support was primarily from Saudi donors.


16 posted on 07/02/2009 4:44:12 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: BuffaloJack

In most (if not all) parts of the US, one cannot don KKK robes in public.

The burqa/niqab is nothing more than a symbol of defiance against Western Culture.

If one wants to wear them, then, by all means, MOVE TO A MUSLIM COUNTRY like Saudi Arabia.


17 posted on 07/02/2009 4:45:26 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (B. Hussein Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: Kaslin

I have no problem with a headscarf or modest dress. If kid’s parents make them dress that way, that’s their business, not mine. If an adult wants to dress that way, fine with me.

I do have a problem with covering the face! The author says “And in case there was any doubt, it has absolutely nothing to do with national security.” NONSENSE! Tell that to security at the airport.

Beyond security, it is offensive to me to have to interact with a person wearing a mask. I refuse to do so, & if forced to, I’ll get my own mask.

In WESTERN CULTURE, a mask signifies the wearer has something to hide, & is mostly associated with criminality. This isn’t ever gonna change, as it involves people’s personal safety. The more they are covered, the more they are looked upon with suspicion.


18 posted on 07/02/2009 5:00:00 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Quiller

this is a crazy article, I don’t get it. Being forced to cover youself =
choosing to wear what you want. wait till some burqa bombs go off
and we’ll see how ridiculous sarkozy is.


19 posted on 07/02/2009 5:06:24 AM PDT by gussiefinknottle (woof!woof!woof!)
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To: Kaslin

I like Sarkozy more and more with each speech he gives.


20 posted on 07/02/2009 5:09:38 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: FreeSouthernAmerican
Why can’t Sarkozy be our President?

We'd certainly get a MUCH, MUCH better looking First Lady!

21 posted on 07/02/2009 5:10:09 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Restore The Constitution - No Foreigners Masquerading as POTUS!)
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To: Kaslin

Ms. Cupp manages to completely miss the point. I’m not convinced Sarkozy’s position is about “women’s rights”, although I suspect the writer would see things differently if the men in the White House ordered HER to wear a burqa.

The real point is to roll back the Muslim infringements on the rest of us. With one public statement Sarkozy has shifted the focus on the French imams from “what do we demand next” to “how do we defend the burqa.”

hh


22 posted on 07/02/2009 5:15:26 AM PDT by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: Venturer

let’s remember Europe does not practice the same “freedom of speech” we do. There is really no such thing as separation of church and state either...as many governments collect church tithings from YOUR paycheck. There are rules regarding what you can say in public, and even what names are appropriate to name your children.


23 posted on 07/02/2009 6:19:01 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Katya

It’s on it’s way.


24 posted on 07/02/2009 9:52:58 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: gussiefinknottle

There has already been an incident of “Muslim Brotherhood” thugs disguising themselves with burqas to enter and rob a bank in the U.S.
Any thought that it wouldn’t be used by terrorists and criminals is rediculous.
But the real point is allowing fundamentalists to suppress women by forcing them to wear burqas in the name of religious freedom is oxymoronic.
Well, maybe just moronic.


25 posted on 07/02/2009 6:34:48 PM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: Kaslin

They haven’t proven that Obama was born here.


26 posted on 07/06/2009 4:20:17 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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