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To: Scanian
I know of an electrical firm that services these dreamboat, pie-in-the-sky pieces of crap.

They are not only 25% efficient, (of their rated capacity at best) but the maintenance on them is extremely expensive and excessive. they are also very difficult and costly to tie into the main grid. What little power they produce and the unrealistic land area they require, creates incredible instability in the main grid. The more of them there are, the more problems they represent.

The same goes for Solar Power, which is beyond ridiculous when even compared to Wind. the statistical facts are this; For every standard Coal plant, it takes 1,750 times the land area of Wind Turbines (10,000 turbines) to equal the output of just one Coal, Nuclear, or Natural Gas plant. In regards to Solar, it takes 177,000 times the land area to equal one Standard electrical plant.

These ridiculous facts are not even remotely being published to the public, who still believes that these energy sources will soon replace the old Planet killing methods and far surpass all of our energy needs. The only thing that has kept that from happening in the past, was that those evil Republicans and greedy Oil/Coal companies have kept the Democrats from giving it to us. Which is what even the media has reported.

And the brain dead public keeps on buying it.

6 posted on 07/02/2009 3:34:56 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Give me LIBERTY or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
We went through these simple calculations when I took physics back in the '70s. Wind, bio, and solar were known to be "boutique curiosities" even then. 1st semester physics is all one needs to understand these simple facts but in our dumbed down society even our most powerful politicians are incapable of handling these simple concepts. We truly deserve what is about to happen to us.

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13 posted on 07/02/2009 3:54:44 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
The same goes for Solar Power, which is beyond ridiculous ...

Only if talking about PV (photovoltaics). Thermal gain from solar can save the average household 30-50% of their utility bills. HOT WATER is free from solar systems. The startup costs are usually recovered within 5-7 years, with no additional cash outlay. You just pay the bank instead of the utility costs, until the system is amortized, then (almost) FREEEEEEEEEEEE heat for your dihydrogen monoxide! You just circulate and use it.


19 posted on 07/02/2009 4:09:32 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Words are plentiful, but deeds are precious.- Lech Walesa)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

What I don’t understand is how the same people that toss a fit over the ‘footprint’ of a refinery or pipeline will embrace windfarms which cover many square miles with hundreds of huge unsightly windmills.


28 posted on 07/02/2009 5:17:07 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (If John Kerry is the benchmark for patriotism I'll be a proud traitor.)
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