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Missouri Republicans continue to question Obama citizenship
stltoday ^
| July 1, 2009, 6:01pm
| Tony Messenger
Posted on 07/01/2009 5:24:34 PM PDT by Red Steel
JEFFERSON CITY Two Missouri state representatives today attended meetings conducted by Orly Taitz in which the California dentist questioned the validity of the presidency of Barack Obama.
Taitz alleges that Obamas birth certificate is illegitimate, and even if its not, she says, he cant be president because his father was Kenyan. She pushed her conspiracy theories and asked for money today at events in St. Charles and Jefferson City. Taitz said the Supreme Court is complicit in illegal activity for blocking her attempts to remove Obama from the presidency.
Rep. Cynthia Davis, R- OFallon, who has gotten a bit of national attention lately, was at the event in St. Charles, though she said she was just seeking information, according to a Jo Mannies blog post.
Not so for Rep. Ed Emery, R-Lamar. Emery said he questions Obamas citizenship and he believes his alleged lack of a legitimate birth certificate ignores the Constitution.
Were thumbing our nose at the Constitution, Emery said. He and Taitz allege that Obamas certificate of live birth isnt the same as a birth certificate.
The theory of the false birth certificate has been thoroughly de-bunked by numerous non-partisan groups. But Taitz argues that all of those groups are controlled by Obama.
Speaking to reporters, Emery concluded the issue wasnt going to go away.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: barackobama; bho2009; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; british; certifigate; citizenship; colb; constitution; eligibility; forgery; ineligible; kenya; keyes; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; orly; orlytaitz; scotus; taitz; truthers; usurper
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posted on
07/01/2009 5:24:34 PM PDT
by
Red Steel
To: Red Steel
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posted on
07/01/2009 5:28:05 PM PDT
by
pissant
(THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
To: Red Steel
The theory of the false birth certificate has been thoroughly de-bunked by numerous non-partisan groups. This is BS.
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posted on
07/01/2009 5:28:10 PM PDT
by
Red Steel
To: Red Steel
I don’t think a federal judge thinks it a conspiracy.He seems to think it’s serious.
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posted on
07/01/2009 5:28:30 PM PDT
by
taxtruth
To: taxtruth
this is hugh!
I’m series......
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posted on
07/01/2009 5:30:58 PM PDT
by
9422WMR
(When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.)
To: Red Steel
The truth is going to come out on this, and the results will make Antietam look like a BBQ festival.
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posted on
07/01/2009 5:31:03 PM PDT
by
Extremely Extreme Extremist
("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
To: Red Steel
She said citizens should form their own grand juries and indict the president. And I'll bet that for a fee Taitz will be glad to help them.
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
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posted on
07/01/2009 5:34:26 PM PDT
by
TLEIBY308
(Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
To: Red Steel
Democrats LIE about Obama's source of birth, and I wonder if they are using federal programs and organizations like the IRS, FBI and Secret Service to pursue people who dare question his citizenship.
Guess we are gonna find out.
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posted on
07/01/2009 5:35:38 PM PDT
by
Prole
(Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
To: TLEIBY308
I hope it doesn’t get ugly but our constitution has been trampled on for the “greater good of socialism”. It won’t stand.
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posted on
07/01/2009 5:37:29 PM PDT
by
fabian
To: mojitojoe; Vendome
You can’t change the rules after game starts.
Suppose celebrity Republicans Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was born in Austria and singer Gloria Estefan, who was born in Cuba, chose to run for President.
They would be prevented from doing so since per Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, one must be a natural born citizen of the United States to hold office as President. Their births in Austria and Cuba would not be considered natural born citizenship.
A case might be made that Barack Obama knew that he was not eligibile to serve as President since he’s probably not a natural born citizen. Consequently, he forged a “Certification of Live Birth” (COLB) and advertised it to the American people as authentic.
Dr. Ron Polarik analyzed Obama’s COLB and determined it to be a forgery. I firmly agree with him. The enclosed link provides Polarik’s article and displays the alleged forged document while pointing out altered numbers and discrepancies, etc.:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2136816/posts
It is a felony to forge a government document and there could be a multitude of felony counts contained here against Obama.
Dr. Polarik has also indicated that he will update this report.
We the American people have the right to know if our President is eligible to hold office. For many, Obama has not proven this requirement.
Obama, I ask, WHERE were you born in Hawaii? Prove it! Where is your original birth certificate? Where?
The authorities MUST enforce the Constitution and require Obama to prove that he is a natural born American citizen. Action on this case is past due! If the Constitution were not going to be enforced, Schwarzenegger or Estefan could have been on the Republican ticket in 2008. What law permits the Democrats special privileges?
In closing, our past Presidents have Birthplace Museums. Just to name a few, Ronald Reagan has a Birthplace Museum in Tampico, Illinois and Bill Clinton has a Birthplace Museum in Hope, Arkansas where they were born. Where will Barack Obama’s Birthplace Museum be located at? At the Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya?
To: Red Steel
She pushed her conspiracy theories
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Where's the “conspiracy”?
Obama’s father was Kenyan and a British citizen. That clouds his natural born status.
He has not released his birth certificate. So?....Where was he born?
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posted on
07/01/2009 5:42:32 PM PDT
by
wintertime
(People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
To: Red Steel
The theory of the false birth certificate has been claimed to have been thoroughly de-bunked by numerous non-partisan groups. But Taitz argues that all of those groups are controlled by Obama.Fixed, so now it's accurate.
New wording is underlined, removed wording struck through and all non-struck wording is in bold.
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posted on
07/01/2009 5:44:06 PM PDT
by
Repeal 16-17
(Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
To: Red Steel
Every story that is written says the same thing. That Obama’s birth has been proven. They all state the same lie. When will one of them say the truth.
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posted on
07/01/2009 5:50:46 PM PDT
by
Venturer
To: Red Steel
Missouri To Lose Billions In Bailout Funds...
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posted on
07/01/2009 5:59:58 PM PDT
by
Costumed Vigilante
(Congress: When a handful of evil morons just isn't enough)
To: Non-Sequitur
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.
The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.
Listen to the
recording here
The quote is around 12:35, so if you dont have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:
Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born
Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive
Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there
Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.
Here is an
abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.
It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --youll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.
First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.
Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.
He used the same technique on the question of Obamas birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."
Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.
Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.
Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference.
Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..
They are the same.
Subsequently, the
Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:
"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."
However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a
Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.
"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."
While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is
a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in Kenya but rather that he is a "son of this village". However,
witnesses insist that she said she was present at obama's birth in Kenya. If taken alone, perhaps she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.
Again here is a
pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:
HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA
Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.
(Applause)
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.
Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.
The American Thinker explains
here why the short form that Obama released is not sufficient for Hawaii. The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has
paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)
Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that. Here's a
footnoted timeline of obama's life 1961-2008. Its especially helpful to look at 1961 and 2008. Of interest is this:
Interesting timeline with footnotes of obama's life.
of note
On April 10, 2008 Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduces Senate Resolution S. Res. 511 to recognize that John Sidney McCain is a natural born citizen. The resolution is allegedly meant to clarify that McCain is eligible to be President even though he was born in Panama. Because McCains parents were both Americans and he was born in Panama because his father was stationed there while in the military, existing law already covers McCain and he is eligible to be President. McCaskills resolution thus serves no purpose except that language is included to try and provide a blanket cover for other foreign born candidates without military backgrounds, in order to enable Obama to be eligible to be President. This is the language that Obama inserted Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; This Clause has no particular relevance to McCain [The language is inserted by Obama.][301,303]
301# http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/obama-born-in-kenya-new-information/#more-3844
303 # http://watchdog.net/b/us/110/sr511
Obama's Senate efforts to airbrush his past were augmented by his top Intelligence Advisor in March 2008.
Obama's Intelligence Adviser Involved in Security Breach. Obamas top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm that was cited in March [2008] for breaching sensitive files in the State Departments passport office, according to a State Department Inspector Generals report released this past July. The security breach, first reported by the Washington Times and later confirmed by State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, involved a contract employee of Brennans firm, The Analysis Corp., which has earned millions of dollars providing intelligence-related consulting services to federal agencies and private companies. During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation. Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to cauterize the records of potentially embarrassing information.
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posted on
07/01/2009 6:23:22 PM PDT
by
ckilmer
(Phi)
To: 9422WMR
Here is
Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"
Here in plain English is the
Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.
Obama's own flacks deny that obama was born in Kenya but do acknowledge that he had a dual citizenship up until 1982
from obama's own site factcheck.org by way of fightthesmears
on his dual citizenship at birth
When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdoms dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.(Someone will want to cache the above web page because it will be taken down eventually.)
Here is the problem with fighthesmears narrative: We already have
recorded that Obama's wife michellle said Obama's mother was "very young and very single" when obama was born. British law at the time of obama's birth only gave citizenship from the father to the son in the case that the father is married to the mother:ie the son is legitimate. See
wikipedia 2.4.3Since obama's parents were NOT married -- how did obama get his British/Kenyancitizenship? Its not unreasonable to think that he got his British/Kenyan because he was born there--and not because of his parentage. Interestingly, recently both
WorldNetDaily and
DailyKos have reported that a copy of Obamas Kenyan Birth Certificate is on sale at ebay by an
accredited seller. For more google references to the seller see
colmado_naranja Once again, Just one piece of evidence could easily be dismissed. It is the accumulation of evidence that is troubling.
It is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. In a tape of his speech at this April 6, 2008 San Francisco Fundraiser,
Obama discloses his trip to Pakistan (40:17) when he was in college. On what passport did he travel?
A last arguement for baraks people might be that of course the Kenyans would have an interest in claiming that obama was a "son of the soil" both as a matter of pride and as a matter of bucks coming their way. However, if Obama was not born in Kenya -- then why wouldn't Obama release his original long form birth certificate. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has
paid his lawyers 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. On top of that
according to the LA Times since the election -- the Kenyans feel that Obama has gone out of his way to snub/ignore/distance-himself them. The Kenyans are putting up reasons like perhaps they are insufficiently perfected for him to notice them--but here in the USA we have seen Obama throw a number of embarrasing people from his past under the bus.
Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?
The thing has become a joke in washington.
Joe Biden Joked at the Gridiron Dinner in March 09.
After mentioning one of the Republican speakers for the evening, Arnold Schwarzenegger, was born in Austria and that one of the Democratic speakers, Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, was born in Canada, Biden chortled: "Folks, this is going to be Lou Dobbs' worst nightmare. "
From there, Biden transitioned to the birth certificate controversy.
Les Kinsolving asked the Presidential Press Secretary Gibbs to release the long form birth certificate. The press secretary suggested mockingly that the copy of the short form birth certificate supplied online is Obama's long form birth certificate.
Not so. See the press conference
out take here.
The
White House 'dialogue' site has to be scrubbed regularly because of long form birth certificate eligibility posts.
Rush Limbaugh joked several times on his radio show on 6/10/09: "What do God and Obama have in commen? (Answer) Neither have birth certificates." Even
the liberal LA Times on June 30, 2009 in an article dripping with contempt--conceded that the thing Obama's people posted online was "technically... not a birth certificate".
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posted on
07/01/2009 6:24:28 PM PDT
by
ckilmer
(Phi)
To: Red Steel
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posted on
07/01/2009 6:25:05 PM PDT
by
danamco
To: Red Steel
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posted on
07/01/2009 6:26:44 PM PDT
by
danamco
To: Non-Sequitur
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posted on
07/01/2009 6:27:30 PM PDT
by
danamco
To: danamco
To: Prole
I wonder if they are using federal programs and organizations like the IRS, FBI and Secret Service to pursue people who dare question his citizenship. Guess we are gonna find out.
It's pretty well documented that the Clintons used the IRS and federal power to silence opposition. The Clintons are looking like amateurs next to the thugs backing the Kenyan.
Send a polite but firm letter to BO demanding the BC & use the name and address of one of your lib jerk friends. Then sit back and watch your lib friend get squashed like a bug. Then, when he really begins to see BO for what he is, ask him if he still thinks you are a tin foil hat wearing right wing kook.
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posted on
07/01/2009 6:34:34 PM PDT
by
ChildOfThe60s
(If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
To: Non-Sequitur
I read it. Very amusing.In that short period of time???
There is a bunch of information to glean from. Especially the retired Lt. Commander's filing Barry for treason, etc. There a one hour+ radio broadcast and many more!!!
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posted on
07/01/2009 6:35:36 PM PDT
by
danamco
To: ChildOfThe60s
It's pretty well documented that the Clintons used the IRS and federal power to silence opposition. The Clintons are looking like amateurs next to the thugs backing the Kenyan.Arkanzide pales when compared to Daley's Chicago thugs!!!
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posted on
07/01/2009 6:39:18 PM PDT
by
danamco
To: danamco
In that short period of time??? No, I'd read it some time ago. That link has been posted before on other threads.
There is a bunch of information to glean from. Especially the retired Lt. Commander's filing Barry for treason, etc. There a one hour+ radio broadcast and many more!!!
Like I said. Most amusing.
To: Just another Joe
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posted on
07/01/2009 6:48:20 PM PDT
by
~Kim4VRWC's~
(Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
To: Red Steel
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posted on
07/01/2009 8:00:59 PM PDT
by
circumbendibus
(Where's the Birth Certificate?)
To: Red Steel
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posted on
07/01/2009 8:00:59 PM PDT
by
circumbendibus
(Where's the Birth Certificate?)
To: Red Steel
More and more people are beginning to research this whole topic. Better late than never. At least Orly is continuing to fight.
What is he Hiding and Why?
Does the Constitution still matter?
To: ckilmer
CK,
I’m not doubting the facts, just offering the typical freeper response......
The truth will eventually come out, but how much damage will the impostor do before his removal from office?
The big one is the trip to Pow-kee-stan, how did he pull that one off on a US passport? They will not answer that one, or many many others.
Shine the light, eventually the carcass will float to the surface.
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posted on
07/02/2009 11:13:45 AM PDT
by
9422WMR
(When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.)
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