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H.R. 2454, or where "56 states" derives
Library of Congress - GPO ^ | 6/29/09 | Henry Waxman

Posted on 07/01/2009 11:30:50 AM PDT by Sam_Damon

Thanks to page 133 of H.R. 2454, I now understand where our esteemed President came up with the notion the U.S.A has 56 states:

2) in section 791(9), by striking ‘‘The term ‘State’ includes the District of Columbia.’’ and inserting ‘‘The term ‘State’ includes the District of Columbia, American Samoa, Guam, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands.’’

(3) in section 793(c)— (A) in paragraph (2)(A), by striking ‘‘51 States’’ and inserting ‘‘56 States’’;

I encourage all visiting to download the bill and discover other gems of legislative detail in this insane piece of legislation. There is no other way to describe this.

Have a nice day, all.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; capandtrade; environment; hr2454; waxmanmarkey

1 posted on 07/01/2009 11:30:52 AM PDT by Sam_Damon
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To: Sam_Damon

get ready for Dem initiatives to make a few more states to cement their vote.

also, I wonder when Zer0 will call for increasing the numbers on SCOTUS so he can pack the court with libs?

They now have the Senate votes to do it, don’t they?


2 posted on 07/01/2009 11:34:01 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: Sam_Damon
IIRC ... zero said 57 ... but then, I'm over 60 and I don't qualify for some-timer's medication.

Y'all just gonna' have to put up with me until I die.

3 posted on 07/01/2009 11:35:11 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: bestintxas

Let’s work on reducing that number by a few, eh?


4 posted on 07/01/2009 11:35:23 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Sam_Damon

56??

Obama said there are 57 states..


5 posted on 07/01/2009 11:35:43 AM PDT by max americana
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To: max americana

Really? I thought it was 56. Perhaps you’re correct.


6 posted on 07/01/2009 11:41:19 AM PDT by Sam_Damon
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To: Sam_Damon

It was 57, but there was talk of Greenland...


7 posted on 07/01/2009 11:43:57 AM PDT by aetheraddict
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To: Sam_Damon

Democrats lie. It is well known fact that they lie, and this is proof positive. Idiot Waxman trying to cover for Obama.

Obama said “57 States” which was a “Freuder” as in OOPS as he was reflecting actually upon the 57 Islamic States.

Typical Democrat, typical Leftist rewrite of the facts. The Leftists will say anything, and actually believe their own lies.


8 posted on 07/01/2009 11:47:08 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: Sam_Damon

He said 57.
Beaverton, Oregon, May 2008
http://www.youtube.com/v/EpGH02DtIws&hl=en


9 posted on 07/01/2009 11:49:30 AM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: Sam_Damon

Six additional states = twelve additional Democrat Senators.


10 posted on 07/01/2009 11:49:41 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Bush was the dumbest sounding smart President, and Obama is the smartest sounding dumb President.)
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To: bestintxas
increasing the numbers on SCOTUS so he can pack the court...

Hard to imagine this really happening - FDR tried, but that proposal failed (see: Switch in time that saved Nine), and the number never went over 9.

11 posted on 07/01/2009 11:50:25 AM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: Sam_Damon

They probably want them classified as states...that way, they can collect federal withholding taxes from them. What fools! LOL!!

For example, Puerto Ricans are US citizens, but they don’t pay federal taxes. Welcome to your change!


12 posted on 07/01/2009 11:56:21 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: astyanax

In the clip, he says he’s been to 57 states, one left to go and he hasn’t been to Alaska or Hawaii. Makes no sense at all, but apparently he thinks there are 58 states. But that’s OK because he probably doesn’t spell “potato” with an e. (It’s OK either way, BTW.)


13 posted on 07/01/2009 11:57:51 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: C210N

...Then shalt thou count to nine, no more, no less. Nine shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be nine. Ten shalt thou not count, neither count thou eight, excepting that thou then proceed to nine. Eleven is right out...


14 posted on 07/01/2009 12:00:11 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Obama - A flexible container of vinegar and water)
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To: astyanax

Actually, if you listen to the video closely, he says he’s been to 57 states with one left to go. That ‘s a total of 58.


15 posted on 07/01/2009 12:03:11 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: neverdem; patton; MHGinTN; sionnsar; bestintxas

And all of these “states” would vote DEMOCRATIC Senators and representatives into position: Giving an absolute majority for the socialists ....


16 posted on 07/01/2009 12:05:21 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: max americana

“Obama said there are 57 states..”

And there are 57 islamic states, Freudian slip.


17 posted on 07/01/2009 12:07:09 PM PDT by VTenigma
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To: Sam_Damon

Obama said “57 states”, not 56.


18 posted on 07/01/2009 12:08:24 PM PDT by texmexis best (uency)
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To: Sam_Damon

The only thing wrong with the theory is Obama clearly said 57 states, not 56.


19 posted on 07/01/2009 12:10:08 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: murron; ElayneJ

I assume he was referring to visiting 47 (continental) states with one left to go, hence the remark about not visiting Alaska or Hawaii.
I won’t hold it against him.
He’s said more ridiculous things than that...


20 posted on 07/01/2009 12:12:44 PM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

The problem is that there is 50 States and then the District of Columbia and Protectorates. The District and the Protectorates do not qualify as States, under an definition.

Just saying they are don’t make it so.


21 posted on 07/01/2009 12:13:32 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Sam_Damon

Hey, there may be some truth buried in all this. Follow me here. My son started a collection of all the quarters issued honoring each of the states. Well, one would assume that would be 50 of them. Recently, I have seen a quarter with the district of columbia on the back and this week, I got a Puerto Rico quarter. Keep an eye out. The DC quarter has Duke Ellington standing next to a piano.


22 posted on 07/01/2009 12:14:31 PM PDT by Texas resident ( Cut n Shoot Texas: Mayberry for rednecks)
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To: Drill Thrawl

LOL!
“Lobbest” already, wilt thou?!


23 posted on 07/01/2009 12:19:39 PM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: Texas resident

fyi...
http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/DCAndTerritories/


24 posted on 07/01/2009 12:21:03 PM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: astyanax

I stand corrected. Still looks bad.


25 posted on 07/01/2009 12:23:04 PM PDT by Texas resident ( Cut n Shoot Texas: Mayberry for rednecks)
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To: Sam_Damon
2) in section 791(9), by striking ‘‘The term ‘State’ includes the District of Columbia.’’ and inserting ‘‘The term ‘State’ includes the District of Columbia, American Samoa, Guam, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands.’’

(3) in section 793(c)— (A) in paragraph (2)(A), by striking ‘‘51 States’’ and inserting ‘‘56 States’’;

Odd, considering all the flags for sale at my local Walmart for the holiday weekend still have only fifty stars on the blue field. I guess maybe the process to admit a state has been abbreviated, eliminated since last November. [/sarc]

(These idiots will stop at NOTHING!!)

26 posted on 07/01/2009 12:23:38 PM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Texas resident

Please don’t take it as a “correction”.
I just thought that if your son was collecting them you might like to know.


27 posted on 07/01/2009 12:26:52 PM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: max americana
56??

Obama said there are 57 states..

Add the state of emergency we're going to be permanently living in.

28 posted on 07/01/2009 12:39:11 PM PDT by Costumed Vigilante (Congress: When a handful of evil morons just isn't enough)
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To: C210N

“increasing the numbers on SCOTUS so he can pack the court...
Hard to imagine this really happening - FDR tried, but that proposal failed (see: Switch in time that saved Nine), and the number never went over 9. “

Back then in the 30s FDR had to contend with a Dem Congress that was, by and large, has a sense of patriotic duty. There were no avowed socialists, just some leaning that way.

Now we have filth like Sanders who is a Communist and others who have no qualms about doing it in order to get their “agenda”.


29 posted on 07/01/2009 12:50:24 PM PDT by bestintxas
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To: K-oneTexas

Lincoln: “... he used to liken the case to that of the boy who, when asked how many legs his calf would have if he called its tail a leg, replied, ” Five,” to which the prompt response was made that calling the tail a leg would not make it a leg.”


30 posted on 07/01/2009 12:56:27 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: knarf
You recall correctly.

In the very same statement he said that "we are going to ___ (I think Oregon) tomorrow and my staff tells me that I won't be allowed to go to Hawaii or Alaska."

So taken in full context, this would mean 60 States.

My view of this gaff is that he certainly knows there are 50 states, if I slapped him around a little to get his attention, he could answer the question correctly.

Having said that, this was a prime example of Zero's mouth not being well connected to his brain.

You're 60, I'm 61. Do you remember a short time ago Zero fired Walpin the Inspector General for Americorp who is 77. When there was a stir about the firing the excuse was that Walpin had "seem confused" at a meeting on May 21st.

By that standard, Zero should be fired.

31 posted on 07/01/2009 1:03:31 PM PDT by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: astyanax

I wouldn’t care if the left didn’t make such a big deal about the innocent flubs that our guys make.


32 posted on 07/01/2009 1:04:52 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: murron
I agree.
I think you'll like this:
If George W. Bush had ...
33 posted on 07/01/2009 1:15:46 PM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: Sam_Damon

Was anyone aware there are 3 HR 2454 bills

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/webreturn/?url=http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.2454:


34 posted on 07/01/2009 1:39:45 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: astyanax

No, I do stand corrected. I thought that when they trotted out quarters for the states, I thought they meant just the states. Didn’t account for territories getting their panties in a wad for not being counted in. Plus for a long time, dc has been pushing for statehood and with this admin, there are new surprises daily.


35 posted on 07/01/2009 2:01:21 PM PDT by Texas resident ( Cut n Shoot Texas: Mayberry for rednecks)
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To: max americana

The additional 7 “states” are not geographic. They are based in the DUmocrat tradition...

State of DENIAL, CONFUSION, OBSTRUCTION, MENTAL ILLNESS, DRUNKENESS, SUBVERSION, and SURRENDER.


36 posted on 07/01/2009 5:10:38 PM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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