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1 posted on 06/30/2009 5:33:41 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

Oregon?! You can’t be free with an 11% state income tax amd nannyism up the wazoo.


2 posted on 06/30/2009 5:35:18 AM PDT by Beelzebubba (Typical "Rightwing Extremist")
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To: bestintxas

Maine? No thanks. Full of moonbats, and the “personal freedom” they’re talking about here is the “freedom” to kill your babies and marry your same-sex “partner.” As far as REAL freedom is concerned - like property rights, etc. - Maine is pitiful.


3 posted on 06/30/2009 5:35:58 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: bestintxas

Maine???? These “free people” elected Olypia Snowe and mini-me, Susan Collins.


4 posted on 06/30/2009 5:36:02 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: bestintxas

Is New Hampshire such a lost cause at the “Live Free or Die” state doesn’t even make the list?


5 posted on 06/30/2009 5:36:59 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: bestintxas

Not sure what the formula was, but if Arkansas is on it they need to adjust it a bit.


6 posted on 06/30/2009 5:37:21 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: bestintxas
This list doesn't smell right.

Eastern Oregon Maybe

Maine? They are going batty over there.

New Mexico? Ya gotta be kidding me.
7 posted on 06/30/2009 5:37:29 AM PDT by stentorian conservative (I'm tired of being Johnny B. Goode and I'm gonna start being Johnny Reb.)
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To: bestintxas

Virginia just passed a ban on smoking in restaurants. Free? not any more.


8 posted on 06/30/2009 5:37:53 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: bestintxas

Maine ahead of Texas.....? oh my..that can’t be allowed to stand.... Corrections please....


9 posted on 06/30/2009 5:38:09 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: bestintxas

Utah and Oklahoma vote Republican by the highest margins but also have a ton of laws that restrict “personal” freedoms.

I suppose it is a matter of determining what is free, and what is conservative. Obviously Republican doesn’t equal personal freedom in some circumstances.


11 posted on 06/30/2009 5:40:04 AM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: bestintxas

Main, Oregon & New Mexico? Yeah, right. We once thought about moving to New Mexico eventually. But that state hasn’t lost its Democrat corruption persona, and that dream is over. As for Main, there’s too much Snowe. And Oregon is way too liberal. Madison, WI, 100 miles North would be the equivalent of that...


12 posted on 06/30/2009 5:40:05 AM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: bestintxas

The listing above is for Personal Freedom. There are several other rankings in the report, here:

http://www.mercatus.org/uploadedFiles/Mercatus/Publications/Freedom%20in%20the%2050%20States.pdf


14 posted on 06/30/2009 5:40:52 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: bestintxas

Not surprized that Mo.’s on the list.

Perhaps one of their standards for the list was a state should have a large rural region. It’s in those areas that true freedom (or something almost close to it)can exist. I know I’m deep in the boonies and I LOVE IT!


17 posted on 06/30/2009 5:42:55 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (My gub'mint calls me a terrorist, but my kids call me "Mom".)
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To: bestintxas

Maine????

You kiddin me????


19 posted on 06/30/2009 5:44:28 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09!)
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To: bestintxas

This is crap....I live in Maine and you can’t even build a shed in your yard without a two year planning board process...guns are easy to have and conceal but other than that everything else is heavily regulated


20 posted on 06/30/2009 5:44:32 AM PDT by rman04554
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To: bamahead; appleseed

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23 posted on 06/30/2009 5:45:31 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: bestintxas; Little Bill

MAINE??????


25 posted on 06/30/2009 5:48:47 AM PDT by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: bestintxas

Typical bull from a Capitol Hill organization. Until we eliminate atheistic socialist public school indoctrinations we will never have a single free state. How can we ever say we have a free state when most of the persons within are taught to be totalitarian?


26 posted on 06/30/2009 5:50:09 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: bestintxas

Alaska is the only free northern state. Maine? Part of New England probably not all that free.


27 posted on 06/30/2009 5:50:29 AM PDT by I Hate Obama (Don't Blame Me I Voted For Paris Hilton)
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To: bestintxas

Oregon? Where the idea of a mandated GPS tracker in your car to tax you for every mile you drive is a plausible idea? You’ve got to be kidding!


33 posted on 06/30/2009 5:55:24 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: bestintxas

that’s a joke!

new mexico is socialist.


34 posted on 06/30/2009 5:56:05 AM PDT by ken21 (i am not voting for a rino-progressive.)
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To: bestintxas

New Mexico? No way. They aided and abetted the Texas RATs who ran completely out of state and hid out in New Mexico.


38 posted on 06/30/2009 5:58:43 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: bestintxas
Only 10 states with “freedom”? Why not 50? (Or “57” depending on your point of mis view).

Isn't it rather sad (”deeply”) and depressing that we even have to have a pathetic survey about “freedom” and that it's not taken unquestioningly for granted? It used to be.

The “liberal” nanny, socialist, left wing, commie fascists are everywhere interfering with every aspect of our lives and controlling and imposing PC baloney on our lives.

The left is in control of this country and when the poo hits the fan, will simply have to be killed to wrest control of this country back to real freedom and for it's survival.

Freedom, real freedom is the most radical political idea of all time. Many, if not most people simply “can't handle freedom” and many don't want to. They want a nanny/mommy/daddy/big brother government to put them to bed and tuck them in at night and tell them what to do as long as they have “health care”, illusory “peace” and benefits, etc.

The left has brainwashed our culture into submission.

41 posted on 06/30/2009 5:59:46 AM PDT by garyhope
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To: bestintxas

Virginia is pro-business, but not pro-individual freedom. There’s a difference, and it’s crucial. Everything in Virginia is managed by the highest level of government possible. Schools are run by counties, not districts. The smallest of local roads are maintained by the state, not counties or municipalities. Rural areas have been awash in tax dollars from Northern Virginia, while the lack of road projects chokes off Northern Virginia, so citing a low state-wide tax burden is assinine, when there are massive local taxes approved by the state to perpetuate this robbery.

But the big kicker is there is no such thing as private property. Everything is owned by the “commonwealth.” As such, moderate-income folks need to commute from West Virginia because Virginia imposes 30-acre zoning laws in the counties between West Virginia and the jobs in D.C. So how does anyone have a place to live at all? Simple: fantastically wealthy corporations pay off local boards for zoning variances, then build enormous housing projects, selling off individual homes at obscene profits.

It’s true that Virginia isn’t a socialist state, like New York or Massachusetts, two other states I’ve lived in. It’s a fascist state. And be very afraid of anyone upholding Virginia as a model of freedom, or next thing you know, America will be indistinguishable from China.


42 posted on 06/30/2009 6:01:14 AM PDT by dangus
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To: bestintxas

You’re nuts! Oregon, Maine, and New Mexico are run by demonrats and libtards. You can’t have freedom in a socialist state. Give me Montana’s Big Sky country for real freedom!


44 posted on 06/30/2009 6:02:12 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: bestintxas
OK, Alaska and Texas, I can see. Arkansas?? Didn't they bring us Clinton?

This list is tainted.

50 posted on 06/30/2009 6:10:39 AM PDT by meyer ( "The world is a beautiful place and worth fighting for. But not without Freedom.")
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To: bestintxas

Oklahoma is a glaring omission.


55 posted on 06/30/2009 6:14:32 AM PDT by FourPeas (Why does Professor Presbury's wolfhound, Roy, endeavour to bite him?)
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To: bestintxas

Maine? Barbara Streisand!


62 posted on 06/30/2009 6:17:13 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: bestintxas

What about TN? Despite Gore, no state income tax and low property taxes. And OK, probably the state with the two best senators in a single delegation.


67 posted on 06/30/2009 6:20:31 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: bestintxas
With a little clicking around at the Human Events article, I was able to find the report.

Ok, so apparently the "personal freedom" rankings have to do with the degree to which you can enjoy some illicit drugs with your same-sex prostitute while you make plans for an eventual same-sex marriage which can later be terminated by an assisted suicide if you wish.  A more useful ranking/index would be the OVERALL Freedom rankings.  Here are the top 15 states in overall freedom - some of which are still rather surprising.

 

Table V: Overall Freedom Ranking

Rank

State

Index

1.

New Hampshire

0.432

2.

Colorado

0.421

3.

South Dakota

0.392

4.

Idaho

0.356

5.

Texas

0.346

6.

Missouri

0.320

7.

Tennessee

0.284

8.

Arizona

0.279

9.

Virginia

0.275

10.

North Dakota

0.268

11.

Utah

0.250

12.

Kansas

0.210

13.

Indiana

0.208

14.

Michigan

0.206

15.

Wyoming

0.193

 

Oregon comes in on the overall freedom ranking at #27.

What is not at all surprising is the bottom five on the overall freedom rankings:

46.

Maryland

-0.405

47.

California

-0.413

48.

Rhode Island

-0.430

49.

New Jersey

-0.457

50.

New York

-0.784

 

70 posted on 06/30/2009 6:21:14 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: bestintxas
New Mexico? Not with the likes of King Richard and his court.

Please, the masses here just voted into office the most liberal hacks I can imagine, and they passed every tax increase that was on the ballot last fall.

Oh, wait, is this the list for illegal imigrant freedom or citizen freedom?

74 posted on 06/30/2009 6:29:56 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: bestintxas

I was just reading my wife a couple of the replies to this thread that had comments like “when the poo hits the fan” and “what freedom” and I told her (she is Eastern European) that the U.S. is headed for civil war. That so many people are so angry about the turn toward socialism. Her reply:

“What? Civil war in front of the computer?”

So I guess we are all “Digital Tigers”


83 posted on 06/30/2009 6:56:25 AM PDT by flash2368 (Scary Times)
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To: bestintxas

MAINE???? Where they’re taxed to death?? Is this list backwards?


86 posted on 06/30/2009 7:09:36 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (There is a demand today for men who can make wrong appear right. Terrence, c. 160 B.C.)
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To: bestintxas

Both Dakotas missing? - no way.


91 posted on 06/30/2009 7:21:04 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: bestintxas
How many of the top 10 have state income taxes?

That eliminates them, automatically.

93 posted on 06/30/2009 7:35:50 AM PDT by ryan71 (We're in deep kimchi!)
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100 posted on 06/30/2009 8:12:03 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (If Tehran offered an unclenched fist, Obama would be shaking a bloody hand and calling it good.)
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To: bestintxas

Virginia?

Home to a lot of D.C. red tapers.


111 posted on 06/30/2009 8:36:26 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: bestintxas

Maine is hard to believe.


112 posted on 06/30/2009 8:37:22 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (There is no Far Right.. There is only Far Left.)
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To: bestintxas

Some areas of Oregon are incredible but others like Eugene are Gaak!


114 posted on 06/30/2009 8:41:23 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: bestintxas

Virginia is pro-business, but not pro-individual freedom. There’s a difference, and it’s crucial. Everything in Virginia is managed by the highest level of government possible. Schools are run by counties, not districts. The smallest of local roads are maintained by the state, not counties or municipalities. Rural areas have been awash in tax dollars from Northern Virginia, while the lack of road projects chokes off Northern Virginia, so citing a low state-wide tax burden is assinine, when there are massive local taxes approved by the state to perpetuate this robbery.

But the big kicker is there is no such thing as private property. Everything is owned by the “commonwealth.” As such, moderate-income folks need to commute from West Virginia because Virginia imposes 30-acre zoning laws in the counties between West Virginia and the jobs in D.C. So how does anyone have a place to live at all? Simple: fantastically wealthy corporations pay off local boards for zoning variances, then build enormous housing projects, selling off individual homes at obscene profits.

It’s true that Virginia isn’t a socialist state, like New York or Massachusetts, two other states I’ve lived in. It’s a fascist state. And be very afraid of anyone upholding Virginia as a model of freedom, or next thing you know, America will be indistinguishable from China.


124 posted on 06/30/2009 9:48:59 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Just another Joe

Missouri’s in the top ten..


125 posted on 06/30/2009 9:49:08 AM PDT by ~Kim4VRWC's~ (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: bestintxas

Yippee! My state is on there. But...if mine is one of the free-est of states, that’s frightening. I think government is way too involved in our lives here in Missouri and getting more involved every day.


128 posted on 06/30/2009 9:53:40 AM PDT by ozarkgirl (. I'll keep my money, my freedom and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: bestintxas
Ah yes, Maine, where one has the "right" to "marry" a person of one's own sex and Oregon, where one has the "right" to commit suicide!

What kind of "freedom" are we talking here? Dope and prostitution?

130 posted on 06/30/2009 10:06:52 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayiftach HaShem 'et-pi ha'aton vato'mer leVil`am meh-`asiti lekha ki hikkitani zeh shalosh regalim)
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To: bestintxas
I wouldn't put texas on the list. When cops are going into bars and arresting people in a private establishments or the moment they step out becasue they have been drinking is outrageous. Rick Perry can put a stop to this and he wont. This is totally against any principals of personal freedom.
131 posted on 06/30/2009 10:08:31 AM PDT by mrsixpack36
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To: bestintxas

Where the hell are obama’s other 7 states? I didn’t see them on the list.


132 posted on 06/30/2009 10:11:26 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Cut n Shoot Texas: Got it's name honestly.)
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