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Top 10 Best States for Personal Freedom (Could these 10 create the United Free States of America?)
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Posted on 06/30/2009 5:33:41 AM PDT by bestintxas

1. Alaska

2. Maine

3. New Mexico

4. Arkansas

5. Texas

6. Missouri

7. Oregon

8. Idaho

9. Virginia

10. Wyoming


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Alaska; US: Arkansas; US: Idaho; US: Maine; US: Missouri; US: New Mexico; US: Oregon; US: Texas; US: Virginia; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: donttreadonme; freedom; liberty; statesrights; topten
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1 posted on 06/30/2009 5:33:41 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

Oregon?! You can’t be free with an 11% state income tax amd nannyism up the wazoo.


2 posted on 06/30/2009 5:35:18 AM PDT by Beelzebubba (Typical "Rightwing Extremist")
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To: bestintxas

Maine? No thanks. Full of moonbats, and the “personal freedom” they’re talking about here is the “freedom” to kill your babies and marry your same-sex “partner.” As far as REAL freedom is concerned - like property rights, etc. - Maine is pitiful.


3 posted on 06/30/2009 5:35:58 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: bestintxas

Maine???? These “free people” elected Olypia Snowe and mini-me, Susan Collins.


4 posted on 06/30/2009 5:36:02 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: bestintxas

Is New Hampshire such a lost cause at the “Live Free or Die” state doesn’t even make the list?


5 posted on 06/30/2009 5:36:59 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: bestintxas

Not sure what the formula was, but if Arkansas is on it they need to adjust it a bit.


6 posted on 06/30/2009 5:37:21 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: bestintxas
This list doesn't smell right.

Eastern Oregon Maybe

Maine? They are going batty over there.

New Mexico? Ya gotta be kidding me.
7 posted on 06/30/2009 5:37:29 AM PDT by stentorian conservative (I'm tired of being Johnny B. Goode and I'm gonna start being Johnny Reb.)
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To: bestintxas

Virginia just passed a ban on smoking in restaurants. Free? not any more.


8 posted on 06/30/2009 5:37:53 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: bestintxas

Maine ahead of Texas.....? oh my..that can’t be allowed to stand.... Corrections please....


9 posted on 06/30/2009 5:38:09 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: rhombus

Maine and Oregon?? If you believe in all the ultra liberal orthodoxy then I guess they belong.


10 posted on 06/30/2009 5:39:23 AM PDT by animal172 (Disgusted in Tennessee)
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To: bestintxas

Utah and Oklahoma vote Republican by the highest margins but also have a ton of laws that restrict “personal” freedoms.

I suppose it is a matter of determining what is free, and what is conservative. Obviously Republican doesn’t equal personal freedom in some circumstances.


11 posted on 06/30/2009 5:40:04 AM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: bestintxas

Main, Oregon & New Mexico? Yeah, right. We once thought about moving to New Mexico eventually. But that state hasn’t lost its Democrat corruption persona, and that dream is over. As for Main, there’s too much Snowe. And Oregon is way too liberal. Madison, WI, 100 miles North would be the equivalent of that...


12 posted on 06/30/2009 5:40:05 AM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: stentorian conservative

Compiled by the Mercatus Center, a nonprofit public policy research center affiliated with George Mason University, using a wide swath of comparative data to determine personal freedoms, including alcohol and drug laws, asset-forfeiture rules, and education regulations.


13 posted on 06/30/2009 5:40:21 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: bestintxas

The listing above is for Personal Freedom. There are several other rankings in the report, here:

http://www.mercatus.org/uploadedFiles/Mercatus/Publications/Freedom%20in%20the%2050%20States.pdf


14 posted on 06/30/2009 5:40:52 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: animal172

I wonder what their criteria are.
If they were going by economic freedom, those states wouldn’t be there.

They probably include some libertinism in their criteria. Like, license to do anything you want without consequence is a “positive” to some.


15 posted on 06/30/2009 5:42:19 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: rhombus

Exactly. NH made the top spot in that study, “Freedom in the Fifty States.”

PDF of the study

http://www.statepolicyindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/freedom-in-the-50-states-an-index-of-personal-and-economic-freedom-by-ruger-and-sorens.pdf


16 posted on 06/30/2009 5:42:35 AM PDT by stentorian conservative (I'm tired of being Johnny B. Goode and I'm gonna start being Johnny Reb.)
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To: bestintxas

Not surprized that Mo.’s on the list.

Perhaps one of their standards for the list was a state should have a large rural region. It’s in those areas that true freedom (or something almost close to it)can exist. I know I’m deep in the boonies and I LOVE IT!


17 posted on 06/30/2009 5:42:55 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (My gub'mint calls me a terrorist, but my kids call me "Mom".)
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To: colorcountry
I suppose it is a matter of determining what is free, and what is conservative. Obviously Republican doesn’t equal personal freedom in some circumstances.

True....but a lot of what is considered "personal freedom" in lists like these are things like access to abortion, allowance of gay marriage and other parts of the gay agenda, etc. In cases like those, I don't view these as legitimate freedom anywise, so the list seems skewed as a result.

18 posted on 06/30/2009 5:43:10 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: bestintxas

Maine????

You kiddin me????


19 posted on 06/30/2009 5:44:28 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09!)
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To: bestintxas

This is crap....I live in Maine and you can’t even build a shed in your yard without a two year planning board process...guns are easy to have and conceal but other than that everything else is heavily regulated


20 posted on 06/30/2009 5:44:32 AM PDT by rman04554
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
If you look at the overall freedom rankings in the study, Oregon and Maine don't fare that well.
21 posted on 06/30/2009 5:45:20 AM PDT by animal172 (Disgusted in Tennessee)
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To: Daveinyork
Virginia just passed a ban on smoking in restaurants. Free? not any more.

Used to be Virginia would rate higher, even 10 years ago. It's turning blue around here now. Bad.

22 posted on 06/30/2009 5:45:24 AM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE crimes.)
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To: bamahead; appleseed

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23 posted on 06/30/2009 5:45:31 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: paulycy

These are the overall freedom rankings from the report.

1. New Hampshire 0.432
2. Colorado 0.421
3. South Dakota 0.392
4. Idaho 0.356
5. Texas 0.346
6. Missouri 0.320
7. Tennessee 0.284
8. Arizona 0.279
9. Virginia 0.275
10. North Dakota 0.268
11. Utah 0.250
12. Kansas 0.210
13. Indiana 0.208
14. Michigan 0.206
15. Wyoming 0.193
16. Iowa 0.183
17. Georgia 0.146
18. Oklahoma 0.143
19. Montana 0.125
20. Pennsylvania 0.102
21. Alabama 0.092
22. Florida 0.068
23. North Carolina 0.019
24. Nevada 0.013
25. Mississippi -0.004
26. Delaware -0.008
27. Oregon -0.009
28. Nebraska -0.018
29. Arkansas -0.023
30. South Carolina -0.040
31. Alaska -0.071
32. Kentucky -0.082
33. West Virginia -0.097
34. Louisiana -0.110
35. Minnesota -0.111
36. New Mexico -0.150
37. Wisconsin -0.199
38. Ohio -0.205
39. Maine -0.214
40. Vermont -0.217
41. Connecticut -0.225
42. Illinois -0.238
43. Massachusetts -0.242
44. Washington -0.275
45. Hawaii -0.304
46. Maryland -0.405
47. California -0.413
48. Rhode Island -0.430
49. New Jersey -0.457
50. New York -0.784


24 posted on 06/30/2009 5:47:55 AM PDT by animal172 (Disgusted in Tennessee)
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To: bestintxas; Little Bill

MAINE??????


25 posted on 06/30/2009 5:48:47 AM PDT by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: bestintxas

Typical bull from a Capitol Hill organization. Until we eliminate atheistic socialist public school indoctrinations we will never have a single free state. How can we ever say we have a free state when most of the persons within are taught to be totalitarian?


26 posted on 06/30/2009 5:50:09 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: bestintxas

Alaska is the only free northern state. Maine? Part of New England probably not all that free.


27 posted on 06/30/2009 5:50:29 AM PDT by I Hate Obama (Don't Blame Me I Voted For Paris Hilton)
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To: jacknhoo
What are you trying to say?
28 posted on 06/30/2009 5:51:27 AM PDT by animal172 (Disgusted in Tennessee)
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To: animal172
That list looks much more likely!
29 posted on 06/30/2009 5:51:43 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: jacknhoo

Slight correction to your assertion.
Most students are not taught to BE totalitarian, they are taught of the superiority of, or just taught from the assumption of the superiority of, a elite led totalitarian state.

Those who consider themselves elite seek positions of power.
The sheep who want to be taken care of and not have to work or worry empower the elite to do so for them.


30 posted on 06/30/2009 5:52:31 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: originalbuckeye

Looks a little more realistic to me also although I’d still make some changes.


31 posted on 06/30/2009 5:52:55 AM PDT by animal172 (Disgusted in Tennessee)
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To: animal172

The states that affect my family are:
Virginia:9
Illinois:42
California:47

I took my family out of CA ten years ago. Best decision we ever made. I hope VA doesn’t go completely down the hole. I doubt it (crossed fingers.)


32 posted on 06/30/2009 5:53:07 AM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE crimes.)
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To: bestintxas

Oregon? Where the idea of a mandated GPS tracker in your car to tax you for every mile you drive is a plausible idea? You’ve got to be kidding!


33 posted on 06/30/2009 5:55:24 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: bestintxas

that’s a joke!

new mexico is socialist.


34 posted on 06/30/2009 5:56:05 AM PDT by ken21 (i am not voting for a rino-progressive.)
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To: paulycy
Well my State of Tennessee fairs well on the list. I'm temporarily in New Hampshire right on the Vermont border. Got to be the strangest place I've ever been.
35 posted on 06/30/2009 5:56:18 AM PDT by animal172 (Disgusted in Tennessee)
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To: Arkinsaw
Not sure what the formula was, but if Arkansas is on it they need to adjust it a bit.

May I ask why you say that ?


36 posted on 06/30/2009 5:56:20 AM PDT by SouthDixie (We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly.)
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To: colorcountry
but also have a ton of laws that restrict “personal” freedoms.

This list appears to be focused on something other then economic freedom and property rights freedom.

37 posted on 06/30/2009 5:57:04 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: bestintxas

New Mexico? No way. They aided and abetted the Texas RATs who ran completely out of state and hid out in New Mexico.


38 posted on 06/30/2009 5:58:43 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: VRWCmember

If you go to the study, you will find that there are several different lists ranking the States on different criteria.


39 posted on 06/30/2009 5:59:12 AM PDT by animal172 (Disgusted in Tennessee)
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To: animal172
Got to be the strangest place I've ever been.

Really? How?

40 posted on 06/30/2009 5:59:43 AM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE crimes.)
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To: bestintxas
Only 10 states with “freedom”? Why not 50? (Or “57” depending on your point of mis view).

Isn't it rather sad (”deeply”) and depressing that we even have to have a pathetic survey about “freedom” and that it's not taken unquestioningly for granted? It used to be.

The “liberal” nanny, socialist, left wing, commie fascists are everywhere interfering with every aspect of our lives and controlling and imposing PC baloney on our lives.

The left is in control of this country and when the poo hits the fan, will simply have to be killed to wrest control of this country back to real freedom and for it's survival.

Freedom, real freedom is the most radical political idea of all time. Many, if not most people simply “can't handle freedom” and many don't want to. They want a nanny/mommy/daddy/big brother government to put them to bed and tuck them in at night and tell them what to do as long as they have “health care”, illusory “peace” and benefits, etc.

The left has brainwashed our culture into submission.

41 posted on 06/30/2009 5:59:46 AM PDT by garyhope
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To: bestintxas

Virginia is pro-business, but not pro-individual freedom. There’s a difference, and it’s crucial. Everything in Virginia is managed by the highest level of government possible. Schools are run by counties, not districts. The smallest of local roads are maintained by the state, not counties or municipalities. Rural areas have been awash in tax dollars from Northern Virginia, while the lack of road projects chokes off Northern Virginia, so citing a low state-wide tax burden is assinine, when there are massive local taxes approved by the state to perpetuate this robbery.

But the big kicker is there is no such thing as private property. Everything is owned by the “commonwealth.” As such, moderate-income folks need to commute from West Virginia because Virginia imposes 30-acre zoning laws in the counties between West Virginia and the jobs in D.C. So how does anyone have a place to live at all? Simple: fantastically wealthy corporations pay off local boards for zoning variances, then build enormous housing projects, selling off individual homes at obscene profits.

It’s true that Virginia isn’t a socialist state, like New York or Massachusetts, two other states I’ve lived in. It’s a fascist state. And be very afraid of anyone upholding Virginia as a model of freedom, or next thing you know, America will be indistinguishable from China.


42 posted on 06/30/2009 6:01:14 AM PDT by dangus
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To: cbkaty

Oklahoma not making the list is questionable.


43 posted on 06/30/2009 6:01:30 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: bestintxas

You’re nuts! Oregon, Maine, and New Mexico are run by demonrats and libtards. You can’t have freedom in a socialist state. Give me Montana’s Big Sky country for real freedom!


44 posted on 06/30/2009 6:02:12 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: garyhope
The left is in control of this country and when the poo hits the fan, will simply have to be killed to wrest control of this country back to real freedom and for it's survival.

Now you sound like them. This would, seriously, have to be the first time I've seen a conservative calling for the death of ideological opponents. It's, historically, ALWAYS the left that does so when they gain power.

Of course, it could be argued that you're stating that the only way to get them unentrenched from power would be a violent overthrow instead of using the power of the state, as they would, to exterminate opposition. But it is not true that that's the only way, either.

We simply have to separate and not allow their foolishness to affect us. They will, of course, seek to use force to not allow us to separate from them. That's when you fight back.

45 posted on 06/30/2009 6:04:15 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: antisocial

I’ve read the report at the link given - the numbers in the main article represent a composite.

There are charts (page 11) more reflective of conservative definitions of freedom, and they rank more as expected - South Dakota, etc.


46 posted on 06/30/2009 6:05:51 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: rman04554

We just moved back to Maine after about 30 years in NH. We are much more rural now and, while I have to admit Maine is full of moonbats (really rabid moonbats) I see a goodly number of real conservatives here. It’s a long shot but perhaps Zero’s admin will be so bad that things might sway a bit. One can hope.


47 posted on 06/30/2009 6:07:18 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: paulycy
I'm in the Lebanon area just this side of the Vermont border. For a while we actually lived on the Vermont side. I think I'm the only conservative in the State. All I see are Obama stickers. The people walk around looking miserable. Very little eye contact and almost no outward signs of personality. Maybe it's the weather that makes everyone so unhappy or it may just be that Southerners are different than Northerners.
48 posted on 06/30/2009 6:07:52 AM PDT by animal172 (Disgusted in Tennessee)
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To: MrB

I think there was this thing called “The American Revolution” where guns and force were used to overthrow the British colonial government.


49 posted on 06/30/2009 6:08:08 AM PDT by garyhope
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To: bestintxas
OK, Alaska and Texas, I can see. Arkansas?? Didn't they bring us Clinton?

This list is tainted.

50 posted on 06/30/2009 6:10:39 AM PDT by meyer ( "The world is a beautiful place and worth fighting for. But not without Freedom.")
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