Don't tase me, bro!
Posted on 06/23/2009 2:28:15 PM PDT by TheRealDBear
MOBERLY, Mo. (AP) - Attorneys say a northeast Missouri city has agreed to pay $2.4 million to survivors of a man who died after police fired a Taser at him numerous times.
Lawyers for the family of Stanley Harlan, 23, say the settlement with the city of Moberly was filed Monday in U.S. District Court in St. Louis.
The agreement includes an indefinite moratorium on the use of Tasers by Moberly police officers.
Harlan died in August 2008 after being pulled over by a Moberly police officer who suspected him of drunken driving.
The lawsuit said other Moberly officers arrived and Harlan got into brief verbal exchanges after getting out of his vehicle.
He was stunned multiple times with a Taser and lost consciousness.
The lawsuit said Harlan died a short time later.
well i guess it’s Nerf from now on...
The lawsuit said other Moberly officers arrived and Harlan got into brief verbal exchanges after getting out of his vehicle.
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Oh my God not verbal!!! Never get verbal with the Gestapo.
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All cities carry insurance.
Time to go back to the oak night sticks.
Don't tase me, bro!
Use your guns instead...
Yup, time to go back to good old "analog" beatings.
...in favor of... what? Their .45s?
Tasers have a place in a good officer's tool set, but some cops misuse and abuse them.
How about "quit misusing tasers"? I like that better.
stop making sense. it’s not welcome here.
I’m stunned by this settlement.
Quit using tasers? What? You’re kidding right? How about telling the idiots to stop doing stupid stuff that deserves getting hit with one?
ROFL!!!
“Cops, get the message...quit using tasers.
...in favor of... what? Their .45s?
Tasers have a place in a good officer’s tool set, but some cops misuse and abuse them.
How about “quit misusing tasers”? I like that better.”
I agree but I do think way too many people end up dead when Tasers are used. It’s supposed to be non-lethal but clearly that is not the case. My prediction is they will be banned from use by LEO or civis.
Night sticks are mean but how many deaths have you read about from thier use. It seems like one a month from tasers, so to me it does not matter if the situation warranted the use of the device or not, suspects are ending up dead WAY to often.
Yes it is making sense and yes it is welcome here, he just wants to pretend that we are viciously anti police and that’s not the case.
The victim was not drunk. He worked at a bar/restaurant and was coming home directly after his work shift. The Moberly PD had been harassing him for weeks because one of their own was dating his ex (mother of the child). It was flat out harassment. It continued to his family after he died. Moberly PD had better wake up and quit harassing people. They have done it to me thinking I was someone else until they pulled me over for "speeding" which I know I was not doing as I had just looked at the spedometer and had 6 minor girls in the vehicle with me. I am a mother and a very careful driver, especially with children in the car.
Good one.
“Quit using tasers? What? You’re kidding right? How about telling the idiots to stop doing stupid stuff that deserves getting hit with one?”
well I wonder what the drunk driving suspicion was based on? Did they eventually find alcohol or drugs were involved? If not, well that does not look good. And in the end a 23 year old is dead and I’m doubting he did anything to deserve that. I could be wrong but my instincts tell me something was not right with this incident and the jury acted acordingly.
This month I watched a video of a 70+ yr old lady getting tasered for being mouthy, this by a very large cop, who could have thrown her ten feet as an afterthought. Wild overreaction. I mean just plain stupid.
See the FR thread of the Chicago off-duty cop that beat down a tiny female bartender on camera. These weren't slaps but deep blows and kicks to the torso. He was put on parole btw.
Somehow this reminds me of the Islam excuse: The bad guys are such a tiny, tiny percentage, but the good guys can't/won't clean house. Whatever.
Agree! At least stop using them multiple times, unless a cop's life is in danger. They got carried away with them, and use them in place of dialogue.
Unbelievable.
Really? Compared to what, exactly?
How many officers have died because they DIDN'T have a Taser?
How many suspects lives have been saved because they were Tased instead of shot?
You can't just take Tasers out of the equation and erase the deaths. Something else would have to be done in those situations, and that "something else" may end up in death too. Maybe the death of someone innocent.
It's a messy business, and I'm not about to blame it on the Taser.
??? Show me where I "pretended you were viciously anti-police".
It didn't happen. Drop the pre-victim bit.
You bet I'm serious. This has nothing to do with human life being worthless. It has to do with lawyers finding another excuse to extort money from the public.
People are murdered all over the United States. Murder/manslaughter used to be a crime, not a tort. If the a jury would find the cop's actions criminal, I would have no problem seeing him executed. He is the one responsible. Instead lawyers have turned these cases into torts whenever there is some loose association between the person who committed the crime and some entity with supposed deep pockets. The people of Moberly are no more responsible for this death than you are. But some law firm just extracted one million dollars for themselves from the people of Moberly and you see this as some sort of justice.
BTW, only legislatures were supposed to initiate public spending the way our governments were set up. Now courts do it all the time; always to the benefit of the Brethren of the Bar; and never with an eye to the damages this has done to our system of government. (Democracy by Decree by two reformed left-wing lawyers considers the damages.)
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There was no jury.
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40 cops at 8:00 AM pulling everybody into a parking lot for a “ DUI” check point,rarely catching a single one.
Now that would piss me off. Who's drunk at 8am?..and they're going to make me late to work for this nonsense? They would need to taser me.
one of which left my wife(now ex)so shaken that it made her want to move back to the third world country she came from.
By chance is your ex Filipina? My wife of eight years is Flip, which would perpetuate the twin joke lol.
the town happens to be the cop’s employer. the idea here, is that the employer of the idiot cop will modify their training regiment in order to prevent another incident of police stupidity in order to avoid another ridiculously expensive lawsuit.
Have you ever seen these HR training videos? Anyone whose behavior can be changed or conditioned by one of these is an idiot you wouldn't want to hire. The people who are not idiots spend several hours a month answering stupid computer quizzes and a equal amount of time joking about this stuff. All of this HR BS just costs the town additional money. Policemen I know seem to understand that they are not supposed to kill people during traffic stops. And I think they knew it before they were on the job.
Meanwhile, your lawyer buddies are in fat city.
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Tasers obviously kill people from time to time. So do hamburgers. You want to run the world for the 0.00001% that are harmed by these things. I want to see it run for the rest of us; and if those 0.00001% fall by the wayside, so be it.
And if the cop in this case was the one who was drunk or out of his mind, then he is a criminal and should be charged and tried. Having your legal scumbag buddies rip off the taxpayers, who have absolutely no involvement with the cop, as if they were so concerned with the dead kid and performing a public service is just obscene.
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You statists always know how to end an argument. Do you use that line in court?
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Im the statist for taking the murdered guys side? and what does that make you for taking the murdering cops side?
I'm for the American rule of law. I've said as much here, and you choose not to read or pay attention. If the cop is a "murdering cop" as you suggest then he should be prosecuted under the laws against murder in the State of Missouri. That's how Jefferson and Madison would have had it. You apparently think the guy cannot be indicted much less convicted of this crime that is so cut and dried to you.
BUT WAIT! There's a financial opportunity. $1.4 mil to the dead guy's relatives; and $1.0 mil to some scumbag lawyers from anonymous taxpayers who had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ALLEDGED CRIME. Yeah. Madison and Jefferson would have loved this. And you think I'm the statist !!!
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Even more of an admission of guilt by the police. That just confirms they knew they were toast if it went to trial.
This question boggles the mind. I would say zero cops have died because they didn't have a taser. If the situation is life threatening they have guns. Tasers were not meant to save cops lives but to take down people for arrest who might have to be clubbed silly without tasers. Tasers are misused, and people are dying because of it. Certainly no officer has ever died from lack of a taser!
It is no such thing. It's a recognition by the town's insurance company that when the unwashed, conditioned by getting half the story in cases such as that of Rodney King, get smoothtalked by slippery lawyers almost anything is possible; even getting awarded millions of dollars for buying hot coffee.
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You are confusing this with cases where big corporations are sued. Yes they settle very often when its clear they were not in the wrong.
When city hall settles out of court it’s because they are guilty as sin and fear for there jobs and freedom.
I’ve done some research on this case since the last post. Those involved are very lucky they weren’t brought up on criminal charges and they still may not be in the clear.
I’m not anti law enforcement but I am pretty sure we are nearing the end of the Taser. They will be banned from use and for good reason. This case however has a serious odor to it and I suspect there was something other than legitimate law enforcement going on here. Apparently the lawyers for the city agree and no they don’t just settle to end a dispute they only settle when they know wrong doing will be proven if they go to court.
You also need to read Democracy by Decree by two lawyers who used to sue governments themselves. Get back to me after you do.
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