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Senator Embarrassment, D-Calif (Worth repeating - are you listening, California?
Townhall.com ^ | 6/23/09 | dennis prager

Posted on 06/23/2009 5:44:57 AM PDT by bestintxas

To object to being called sir or ma'am by anyone, especially a member of the military and especially a high ranking member of the military is to betray an ignorance of the military and a tone deafness to civility that is appalling in anyone, especially a member of the United States Senate .

Second, and both more revealing and more instructive, is to understand how inconceivable it would be for a male senator to make such comments. Neither a Democrat nor Republican could imagine a male senator interrupting the testimony of a brigadier general to admonish him publicly, "You know, do me a favor. Could you say 'senator' instead of 'sir?' It's just a thing. I worked so hard to get that title, so I'd appreciate it."

If a male senator had said that, he would rightly be regarded as insecure, narcissistic, arrogant, and juvenile. Which is precisely why no male senator would ever say such a thing: He would know that he would be the laughingstock of the U.S. Senate.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 111th; boxer; michaelwalsh; prager; rudedems
If the people in California wish to elect a dunce that is ok with me, however, I do not think our United States Generals need to be subject to one.
1 posted on 06/23/2009 5:44:57 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas; calcowgirl
Hopefully we will be able to “knock out” Boxer come 11/2010!

Semper Fi,
Kelly

2 posted on 06/23/2009 5:47:06 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: bestintxas

“I didn’t go to Evil Medical School for six years to be called “Mister”, thank you very much.” - Dr. Evil after being called Mr. Evil.


3 posted on 06/23/2009 5:47:57 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: bestintxas

Maybe he should have said “Madam Senatrix.”


4 posted on 06/23/2009 5:48:09 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
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To: bestintxas

5 posted on 06/23/2009 5:48:25 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: OrioleFan

Just another liberal/feminist with a “gender inferiority complex”.

Calling her the honorific “Ma’am” was an insult because it highlighted her gender.


6 posted on 06/23/2009 5:49:10 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: bestintxas

“Dunce” is right. Like I said on a previous thread, I would have told her that when she starts acting like a senator, maybe I’ll call her senator. Until then, she’s lucky she got the respect she did from the General...she would have gotten NONE from me!


7 posted on 06/23/2009 5:49:21 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: bestintxas

The General should have responded “In my world, Ma’am is a term of respect. If you’d rather be called ‘Senator’ that’s fine with me, Senator”.


8 posted on 06/23/2009 5:50:15 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: bestintxas

He should have called her “Senaturd.” I wonder if she’d been paying attention.


9 posted on 06/23/2009 5:53:06 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: bestintxas

The angry mob (students, illegals, the lazy and stupid, enviro-whackos, etc) DON’T CARE. Boxer rants against “the system” and gets them freebies.

That is all they care about. They don’t care about her corruption, her stupidity or her disingenuous remarks. She is an elitist billionaire Leftist. And will be elected in CA as long as she wants.

She should be Olbermann’s “Worst Person in the World!” but Keith is too much of a sissy creep.


10 posted on 06/23/2009 5:56:19 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: bestintxas

Senator Embarrassment is being kind.


11 posted on 06/23/2009 5:56:59 AM PDT by b4its2late (I love defenseless animals, especially in a good gravy.)
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To: DuncanWaring

“The General should have responded “In my world, Ma’am is a term of respect. If you’d rather be called ‘Senator’ that’s fine with me, Senator”.”

That would have been so classy! But, she’s probably thinking it has something to do with the Civil War era.


12 posted on 06/23/2009 5:58:41 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: bestintxas
Let me rephrase that......

Calling her "Senator Embarrassment" is being kind.

13 posted on 06/23/2009 5:59:33 AM PDT by b4its2late (I love defenseless animals, especially in a good gravy.)
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To: bestintxas

My former brother-in-law was married to the daughter of a New York State Supreme Court Judge. The guy was an insufferable liberal POS that had been appointed to the court by King Mario the Pious.

He bristled at being addressed in any way other than “Judge”.

Naturally, I always addressed him as “Mr.”

... and the horse he rode in on.


14 posted on 06/23/2009 5:59:43 AM PDT by Yankee
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To: DuncanWaring

He responded perfectly. Anything else and the attention would shift to him and vital defense funds would be funneled away.


15 posted on 06/23/2009 6:00:17 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: RebelTXRose

That would’ve been fantastic. But she shocked the living crap out of him.


16 posted on 06/23/2009 6:00:17 AM PDT by b4its2late (I love defenseless animals, especially in a good gravy.)
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To: bestintxas

She says, “It’s just a thing. I worked so hard to get that title...”

What she means is she sold her sold her soul to the devil and saying ma’am, reminds her she is a mother...something she despises. Being a mother, to her like Obama, is punishment.

Barbara Boxer’s moment of truth
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3798/is_199910/ai_n8861691/


17 posted on 06/23/2009 6:02:33 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: bestintxas

If my son, a lowly E3 just days out of boot camp, was to meet the President of the United States, he would call him, and is instructed to call him, “Sir”


18 posted on 06/23/2009 6:06:45 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.)
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To: Yankee

A friend just after receiving his Ph.D. in Economics boarded a plane for an interview on the East Coast. He signed in as Dr. ..... During the flight there was a medical emergency. He was paged and asked to assist. He had to swallow hard and admit his doctorate was not in medicine. Needless to say, he never did that again. Humility, as they say, is a humbling thing.


19 posted on 06/23/2009 6:09:44 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: MrB

Yeah, and I’m wondering how nicely that might fit into Freud’s classic definition of “penis envy”. I’ll have to look it up.


20 posted on 06/23/2009 6:10:11 AM PDT by supremedoctrine ( YOUR AD IN THIS SPACE)
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To: bestintxas
Ma'am was too generic for her. Her asking to be called ‘Senator’ is her way of saying that it is not sufficient to be a decent woman worthy of the proper form of respectful address AND that ma'am is a title which bears NO distinction
21 posted on 06/23/2009 6:12:58 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: Melchior

Funny, I have a PhD in economics but have NEVER used Dr. anywhere.


22 posted on 06/23/2009 6:15:26 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: Yankee

Hey, it coulda been worse.
He coulda thought he was always in court, holding court,
and bristled at being called anything other than “Your Honor”.
Yet I’ve been in court and heard Judges being addressed both ways by lawyers, and seeming to be OK with it.
But yeah, there’s something basically wrong with someone
whose identity is so emotionally tied up with his title to
the exclusion of his basic human identity.


23 posted on 06/23/2009 6:16:52 AM PDT by supremedoctrine ( YOUR AD IN THIS SPACE)
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To: Yankee

Hey, it coulda been worse.
He coulda thought he was always in court, holding court,
and bristled at being called anything other than “Your Honor”.
Yet I’ve been in court and heard Judges being addressed both ways by lawyers, and seeming to be OK with it.
But yeah, there’s something basically wrong with someone
whose identity is so emotionally tied up with his title to
the exclusion of his basic human identity.


24 posted on 06/23/2009 6:16:52 AM PDT by supremedoctrine ( YOUR AD IN THIS SPACE)
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To: DuncanWaring

That would probably go right over her head.

If she thinks Ma’am is disrespectful, I would like to introduce her to a bunch of 1950’s Nuns and DI’s that pounded that fact into ‘our minds full of mush’


25 posted on 06/23/2009 6:26:42 AM PDT by xrmusn ("IF OB IS THE ANSWER, I BEG TO KNOW THE QUESTION")
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To: supremedoctrine

It’s one thing to use his title in a professional setting. It’s another thing at a backyard barbecue.

It was way too easy to pull his chain. I couldn’t resist the temptation.

I despise pretentious scumbags and go out of my way to sh_t on their egos.

Especially after a beer or two.


26 posted on 06/23/2009 6:32:11 AM PDT by Yankee
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To: xrmusn

I figured it probably would go right over her head.

Then, a couple of days later, it would slowly dawn on her, or someone else would point it out.

And the General would have been screwed.


27 posted on 06/23/2009 7:02:36 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Hey....give B.B. a break ! All she wants is to be called what she is.....which is Senator. No problem, but she is also a P.O.S., a liar, a cheat, a lame-brained fool, a 1st class Bit.., a loose cannon, a stupid fool, and on and on. So feel free to call this idiot woman anything but Ma’am.


28 posted on 06/23/2009 7:13:05 AM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: Yankee

Makes me wish I was a neighbor and sharing a beer or two with you, and helping pull his chain conspiratorially as we figured out new verbal tactics 25 feet from the Weber, and got progressively more sloshed. There are some good judges, though, who couldn’t care less about their rather
dubious ‘titles’. THey’re usually run-of-the-mill local judges handling minor cases, but showing tact and , uh, “judgement”, and even-handedness. Too many of them are basically handmaidens of prosectors. Or handmaidens of agenda-driven defense lawyers. Too few are willing to be independent.


29 posted on 06/23/2009 7:25:01 AM PDT by supremedoctrine ( YOUR AD IN THIS SPACE)
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To: bestintxas

Well, so far despite her record the voters seem to think she’s representing them. It matters little what folks outside of her district think. It certainly casts the people in her district in a poor light.


30 posted on 06/23/2009 7:53:01 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: bestintxas
Note I sent to senator Boxer:

Dear Senator Boxer,

Just when I thought the situation in Washington D.C.
could not get crazier, I see you on television
admonishing an Army general for not addressing you as
senator, rather than the polite, madam.

Senator Boxer, beside being an embarrassment to your
office and your state, you are petty and rude. I
normally give you some slack because I realize you are
not particularly intelligent, but I do expect a show of
common courtesy when speaking to a senior military
officer. But then, you never disappoint.

Sincerely,

Reply from her office:
Dear Friend:

Thank you for contacting me regarding the recent Senate hearing with Brigadier General Michael Walsh. I appreciate hearing from you on this matter.

Shortly after the hearing, I called General Walsh, and we had a friendly and productive conversation. We expressed our respect for one another and our determination to work together to protect our nation and communities from natural disasters.

Thank you again for writing to me. Please feel free to contact me in the future about this or any other issue of concern to you.

Barbara Boxer
United States Senator

31 posted on 06/23/2009 8:06:14 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Obama...the convergence of Affirmative Action and the Peter Principle)
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To: Cuttnhorse

..and we had a friendly and productive conversation...


Which again shows the General is a gentleman etc but also points out that since BB has the ‘purse strings’,

“Once you have them by the ‘gonads’, the hearts and minds soon follow”......


32 posted on 06/23/2009 9:35:57 AM PDT by xrmusn ("IF OB IS THE ANSWER, I BEG TO KNOW THE QUESTION")
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To: xrmusn

What really bothered me was the “Dear Friend” salutation...grrrr.


33 posted on 06/23/2009 10:28:06 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Obama...the convergence of Affirmative Action and the Peter Principle)
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To: DuncanWaring
The General should have responded “In my world, Ma’am is a term of respect. If you’d rather be called ‘Senator’ that’s fine with me, Senator”.

Called "Thinking on your feet", which used to be considered commendable.

34 posted on 06/23/2009 12:42:05 PM PDT by ex91B10 (The only response now is mass resistance.)
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To: ex91B10

Also called “Discretion is the better part of valor”.

Also commendable.


35 posted on 06/23/2009 12:55:25 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: kellynla

“Hopefully we will be able to “knock out” Boxer come 11/2010!”

Only if you can convince everyone in Los Angeles and the bay area that the election is on Wednesday!


36 posted on 06/23/2009 12:59:03 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed
L.A. & S.F. are only a fraction of the electorate of CA

And the majority of the Liberal clowns in those cities are too lazy to get off their duffs to vote.

37 posted on 06/23/2009 1:10:50 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: DuncanWaring

Tis a fine line, is it not? ;-)


38 posted on 06/23/2009 1:15:31 PM PDT by ex91B10 (The only response now is mass resistance.)
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To: ex91B10

‘Tis.


39 posted on 06/23/2009 1:31:04 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: kellynla
They're enough to guarantee Boxer will win.
40 posted on 06/23/2009 1:59:11 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed
Sorry, Charlie, there are no “guarantees” in politics. LOL
41 posted on 06/23/2009 2:16:18 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

My name ain’t charlie and i’ve probably been involved in California politics lomger than you have been alive.


42 posted on 06/23/2009 2:19:36 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed

sooooooooooooooooooo...LOL


43 posted on 06/23/2009 2:37:59 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: whitedog57

Dr. Whitehouse57


44 posted on 06/23/2009 5:02:50 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.)
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