Posted on 06/22/2009 11:25:31 AM PDT by Schnucki
I better get ready to duck, but I don’t understand how banning the wearing of the burqa means you are ending subservience. If the government says you cannot wear a burqa, and you must comply, doesn’t that make you subservient, only to the government instead of a Muslim code? The religious habit of a Catholic nun also implies submission to vows, shall that be outlawed too on the this basis.
The problem with radical Islam is not Burqas or Ramadan or the Arabic language, it is its built in proclivity to subvert everything that isn’t Islam, through whatever means available.
Subservience hell, you dummy. It’s a sign of concealing thugs carrying bombs!
Here is something to think about, although we rarely see it here: in the 70s an Italian political scientist postulated that the political spectrum was actually a circle, not a line (with left and right). It was based on voting patterns in the Italian parliament, where often, the communists and the fascists (the assumption here being that the fascists are “right” wing) voted together— but for different reasons. The only time I have seen it here was on bi-lingual education in California in the late 70s. The left supported it as “sensitive to the needs of Hispanic children.” The right supported it because it created a permanent underclass to work the fields!
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This presupposes that burqua wearing is freely chosen. I think the evidence is pretty overwhelming that it isn't. This isn't a religion of freedom we are talking about; this is a religion whose holy book advocates the subjugation of women, the killing of all apostates, and the death of all those who do not convert.
I dunno, I am pretty sure nobody in France is going to force them to wear it in public. Maybe their husbands or parents, but all they would have to do is just divorce/move out and not wear it. Since they’re still wearing them anyway, it sounds like a choice to me.
Government shouldn’t be making choices for us, even if we us don’t like the choice.
I see what you are saying, yeah. I don’t really get the underclass part because english education means better job opps in the future... am I missing something?
Funny - and Obama just told them the opposite in Cairo: “We will respect your right to force women to wear Burhkas!”
I’ve liked this guy from the get-go... The more I see/hear from him, the my respect grows.
I think you see the point completely. Continuing to teach in Spanish, rather than demanding complete immersion in English, limited the future job opportunities for those that spoke Spanish at home.
A friend of mine pitched a fit when his very-Caucasian daughter was being forced into a bi-lingual class in San Jose, CA. He and his wife went down to the school, where they met a Hispanic mother equally upset because her son was being forced into a Spanish-first class. The Hispanic mother wanted English-only for her son. When both sets of parents joined together to threaten a lawsuit, both children were “approved” for the English-only class, but the policy, otherwise, continued....
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I like a man who has a pair.
This doesn’t just cover their heads. Their whole bodies are covered and nothing shows except the eyes. They are horrible looking.
Ahhh, ok. Point taken. It’s kind of scary how the far right and far left all want the same thing, to control you.
haha, no kidding. i bet some of the women under those things are babe-alicious. they need to let it all hang out!
You sound very naive to me. Muslims kill their women for not obeying, they are called honor killings and they happen in all western countries, including France and US. Read about the lawyer in NYC a few months ago who killed his wife because she wanted a divorce? He was considered a "moderate" Muslim.
Making a law that forbade husbands to force their women to wear burkas wouldn't work, they(the husbands) would simply scare the women into wearing them anyway and claiming they want to wear them. They do that now.
Muslim women cannot freely divorce without fear of dying, muslim girls can't date who they want without fear of dying.
Sarkozy is merely trying to clamp down on the muslim terror that permeates parts of France.
Remember the burning cars and the "youths" who are responsible?
|Maybe their husbands or parents, but all they would have to do is just divorce/move out and not wear it.”
I think the implied circumstance is that in families where this is mandated, females aren’t running the show.
Who would have ever thought our president would be the sissy boy and the president of France would be the manly one?
This cheap punk quota boy is disgusting.
Sarkozy for President.
I was watching one of these shows like “Forensic Files” or “Snapped”, and they had a murdered young woman whose own mother and father killed her brutally for dating someone they did not like, and she stood up to them. This was a true story, not a Based on a True Story.
I forgot to mention they were Muslim.
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