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New Jersey to Consider Banning Drivers from Operating GPS
thenewspaper.com ^ | 06/21/09 | thenewspaper.com

Posted on 06/21/2009 1:51:52 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3

Legislation would impose a $100 fine for touching a GPS navigation screen while driving in New Jersey.

A New Jersey state lawmaker wants to make it a crime for drivers to touch the screen of a satellite navigation device in a moving vehicle. Earlier this month, state Assemblyman L. Harvey Smith (D-Hudson) introduced legislation to expand the state's existing prohibition on using a cell phone behind the wheel.

"This bill would amend current law to also prohibit the manual operation of a global positioning system (GPS) device or similar navigation device by the operator of a moving motor vehicle," the official summary for A4064 explains. "The bill would allow the operator to use a voice-activated GPS device."

Motorists pulled over for the newly created offense would face a $100 fine without license points. A more broadly worded proposal to ban GPS operation while drivinghas been adopted in Spain's legislative body with penalties of 100 euros (US $140) with points.

While no vote has been taken on Smith's idea, such bill introductions can sometimes reflect a national trend. In 2005, a bill introduced in the New Jersey legislature to ban smoking in cars carrying childrenwent nowhere. Now the idea is law in Arkansas, California, Louisiana and Maine with three dozen states considering adopting similar bans.

A copy of the legislation is available in a 25k PDF file at the source link below.

Source: Assembly, Number 4064


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: gps; nannystate; newjersey
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1 posted on 06/21/2009 1:51:53 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3

next you won’t be allowed to pass your kid a sippy cup while driving..........


2 posted on 06/21/2009 1:53:27 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Why doesn’t this home for political criminals just tax people for breathing, urinating, walking, talking....and get it over with.


3 posted on 06/21/2009 1:54:26 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: TornadoAlley3

The State is going broke and all these nitwits can do is pass more nanny state laws.

New Jersey
state motto: “where’s mine?”


4 posted on 06/21/2009 1:55:11 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer
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To: Oldpuppymax

Here in NJ they passed a law that you can’t have your lights out if you’re wipers are on.


5 posted on 06/21/2009 1:55:58 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: TornadoAlley3

Lol....they’re all so sucking up to Charlie...roflmbo...


6 posted on 06/21/2009 1:57:30 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: Rumplemeyer

Pretty soon you won’t be allowed to engage in any ‘verbal contact’ with anyone inside or outside the vehicle, while you’re driving.


7 posted on 06/21/2009 1:57:42 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: The Bronze Titan
Here in NJ they passed a law that you can’t have your lights out if you’re wipers are on.

The obvious civil resistance on that one is not to drive with your lights on. After all, that is required in large European cities. Problem solved.

8 posted on 06/21/2009 1:59:29 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: The Bronze Titan

How about just pass a law against driving?


9 posted on 06/21/2009 2:00:05 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: TornadoAlley3
HA! Noo Joiysey has the worst designed roadway system and rules and regulations of any state that I've ever had the unfortunate circumstance to drive within, especially Northern NJ ... I regularly get lost there, even when knowing where I'm going .... one wrong turn and its all over, it'll take three hours to get back to where you originally wanted to go

So now they want to ban GPS, which helps drivers negotiate the wild twists and turns of Joiysey? Typical.

Seems they just like the status quo (as well as reputation) and want everyone to continue to get lost while driving there ..

/OK .. rant off :)

10 posted on 06/21/2009 2:01:43 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: TornadoAlley3
"Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against - then you'll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it.

There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now, that's the system, Mr. Rearden, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

11 posted on 06/21/2009 2:03:16 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

We’d all be a lot safer if we’d all just stay home with the doors locked. How about passing a law.


12 posted on 06/21/2009 2:03:27 PM PDT by all the best
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To: TornadoAlley3

Why now a ban on moron holding an elected office?


13 posted on 06/21/2009 2:03:51 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: The Bronze Titan

Lights on when wipers on is a common sense measure , I support it... it’s more to make sure you are visible to others than anything.


14 posted on 06/21/2009 2:04:16 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: TornadoAlley3

Why now a ban on morons holding an elected office?


15 posted on 06/21/2009 2:04:17 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Mr_Moonlight

Someone in the GPS business is behind this.


16 posted on 06/21/2009 2:04:38 PM PDT by Tax Government
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To: TornadoAlley3
Gee! If this idiocy spreads to my state I guess I will have to learn to use Uri Geller’s system of paranormal powers to turn on my AC and adjust my rear view mirror.
17 posted on 06/21/2009 2:04:54 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Not surprising at all for New Jersey - even more shocking to me are the property tax rates there. Friends of ours pay more than $1000 per month! We pay less than two grand per year in our neighborhood.


18 posted on 06/21/2009 2:05:56 PM PDT by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, get a dog.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Legislation would impose a $100 fine for touching a GPS navigation screen while driving in New Jersey.

Good to know they don't have any real problems to work on!

NJ must be a paradise!

19 posted on 06/21/2009 2:06:41 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Pas d'ennmis a droit)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I’m not sure a law would do much good. The governor of the state himself can’t be bothered with buckling his seat belt.


20 posted on 06/21/2009 2:07:59 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: The Bronze Titan

Tennessee has had the same law for years. Of course it’s an inclement weather rule but it is open for interpretation.


21 posted on 06/21/2009 2:08:29 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: TornadoAlley3

Fair enough, nobody wants to find an address in New Jersey anyway.


22 posted on 06/21/2009 2:09:17 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by governments. You've been warned.)
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To: Tax Government
Someone in the GPS business is behind this.

How so? How would banning GPS benefit those in the business?

23 posted on 06/21/2009 2:09:18 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: TornadoAlley3
My car has a built-in GPS. It won't work if you're in motion. I yell (to no one in particular) "Friggin' Nanny state car" every time it shuts down on me.

My GPS can't keep up with NJ's convoluted highway system.

24 posted on 06/21/2009 2:09:54 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: TornadoAlley3
How many deaths have occurred from GPS operation?

vs.

How many deaths have occurred from drunk illegal alien drivers?

We all know the answer...so why isn't the NJ legislature cracking down on illegal aliens?

25 posted on 06/21/2009 2:12:27 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: Mr_Moonlight

voice activated GPS requirement would force all those old ones to be obsolete thereby creating a new market for the updated ones voice activated ones.


26 posted on 06/21/2009 2:13:04 PM PDT by tioga
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To: TornadoAlley3

If you have an electorate who believes that the purpose of government is to pick them up and burp them and give them a banky and a bot-bot, and wipe their ass and tuck them into bed and read them a story....it is completely unsurprising that they would end up with legislators like this.


27 posted on 06/21/2009 2:13:28 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: The Bronze Titan

I am in favor of that law, nothing I hate more than an idiot driving in the pouring rain without their lights on. Your cars lights aren’t just for you to see the road.


28 posted on 06/21/2009 2:13:48 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
The ruling class does not have to follow the rules..
29 posted on 06/21/2009 2:14:05 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Barack the Messiah: Never in the field of US politics have so many waited so long for so little.)
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To: The Bronze Titan
Here in NJ they passed a law that you can’t have your lights out if you’re wipers are on.

This one might not be a good revenue maker - lazy cops are less likely to write tickets in the rain.
30 posted on 06/21/2009 2:17:26 PM PDT by rdax
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To: tioga
voice activated GPS requirement would force all those old ones to be obsolete thereby creating a new market for the updated ones voice activated ones.

Ahhh K ... yer looking at it from the point of a 'chess position' .. got it. Thanks

31 posted on 06/21/2009 2:18:52 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: TornadoAlley3

They’re already giving tickets for a GPS being in the windshield and obscuring vision.


32 posted on 06/21/2009 2:19:33 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: tsmith130

“My car has a built-in GPS. It won’t work if you’re in motion. I yell (to no one in particular) “Friggin’ Nanny state car” every time it shuts down on me.”

What do you mean by “won’t work”? Does that mean dead keys, or dead everything? ...and what kind of car?


33 posted on 06/21/2009 2:24:20 PM PDT by BobL (Drop a comment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180357/posts)
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To: Neidermeyer

Nanny state laws are good if YOU agree with them?

I guess you support the Brady Bunch wanting to ban firearms because THEY agree with banning them?

Why don’t YOU make a list of everything that YOU think is dangerous and have the state ban all of them even if the laws aren’t needed and are really stupid?


34 posted on 06/21/2009 2:26:53 PM PDT by Eaker (The Two Loudest Sounds in the World.....Bang When it should have been Click and the Reverse.)
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To: LukeL

Fifteen miles per hour is safer than thirty so why don’t we pass a law that cars can’t go faster than fifteen?

Walking is almost idiot proof so why don’t we pass a law against any mode of transportation other than walking?

None of that damn fast walking either!

WE NEED more laws!


35 posted on 06/21/2009 2:31:37 PM PDT by Eaker (The Two Loudest Sounds in the World.....Bang When it should have been Click and the Reverse.)
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To: BobL

Let’s say I’m at a stoplight and I’m trying to program in an address I want to find. It allows me to enter information as long as I’m not moving. Once my wheels start to roll, the screen goes blank and I can’t enter any more letters to spell out whatever it is I’m entering at the time. It’s a Nissan Murano.


36 posted on 06/21/2009 2:32:02 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Mr_Moonlight
one wrong turn and its all over, it'll take three hours to get back to where you originally wanted to go

Same thing happens to me. It is almost impossible to "turn around" in NJ. New Jersey (along with oregon) also doesn't allow you to even pump your own gas which is bizarre.

37 posted on 06/21/2009 2:32:02 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Neidermeyer

Sure, using safety equipment is a common sense idea - that’s why enterprising folks invented them in the first place. Requiring their employment through regulation in order to generate revenue is a poor idea and that is something that I for one do not support.

Same with prohibiting the GPS units. There’s no good reason to do that and plenty of reason why not.

At what point did we lose the ability to think for ourselves?


38 posted on 06/21/2009 2:32:36 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Mr_Moonlight

How the heck did you get lost in north jersey? Sussex county has 1 highway. Rt 206. If you get the chance go down old mine road. One of the oldest roads in the U.S.


39 posted on 06/21/2009 2:32:39 PM PDT by mirkwood (what happened to Sean Flynn?)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I’m moving to New Hampshire. The Free Staters there just defeated an adult seatbelt law, so nothing silly like this would ever fly there.


40 posted on 06/21/2009 2:33:17 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (What are you and who do you want?)
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To: TornadoAlley3

@$(*#@&*$ nanny state!


41 posted on 06/21/2009 2:33:31 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid things happen)
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To: all the best
We’d all be a lot safer if we’d all just stay home with the doors locked. How about passing a law.

They're working on that for all of us. You stay home with the door locked and they provide you with food, healthcare, and employment.

There's only one problem.

They keep the key.

42 posted on 06/21/2009 2:34:52 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|"AlsoSprachTelethustra"-NonValueAdded|Lk21:36|FireTheLiar)
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To: plain talk; mirkwood
It is almost impossible to "turn around" in NJ.

"NO LEFT TURN" and "ONE WAY - DEAD END" ... (OK, I exaggerate on the 2nd one ;)

43 posted on 06/21/2009 2:36:50 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: tsmith130

Thanks - they’re obviously worried about liability.


44 posted on 06/21/2009 2:37:04 PM PDT by BobL (Drop a comment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180357/posts)
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To: TornadoAlley3

NJ has always sucked. They just give you more reasons to hate them.


45 posted on 06/21/2009 2:38:34 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is an illegal alien)
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To: BobL

Yeah, I suppose...but a passenger couldn’t even do it if they wanted to.


46 posted on 06/21/2009 2:39:40 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Rodebrecht

NH hasn’t required seat belt use from the git-go...Free Staters have nothing to do with it...someone brings it up every year; and it always gets shot down.


47 posted on 06/21/2009 2:42:05 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Eaker
I am in favor of laws that protect me from stupid drivers. Seat belt laws, emission laws, air bag laws etc. I am against. But when I see a driver driving at dusk in the pouring rain with only his parking lights on it gets me mad. Same goes for talking on the cell phone, I can't tell you how many times I see cars slowing down, drifting, and veering everywhere only to see a phone against the drivers ear.
48 posted on 06/21/2009 2:45:25 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Mr_Moonlight

Not banning GPS’es...replacing all with voice-activated ones.


49 posted on 06/21/2009 2:46:46 PM PDT by Tax Government
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To: yldstrk

My dad used to swing his arm around to try to smack misbehaving kids while he was driving, swerving as he did it. I bet these days he’d be arrested on several different charges. Child endangerment, reckless driving, child abuse, driving while furious...oh, and on top of that he’d get six citations for no seatbelts. Well they were there, they were just stuffed down into the cushions, and if we were in the front (under 12 - gasp), the seatbelt was mom’s arm across the front of us.

Without the nanny state, it’s a miracle we survived childhood!


50 posted on 06/21/2009 2:47:12 PM PDT by agrace
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