Posted on 06/14/2009 9:14:57 PM PDT by Scythian
VIENNA — Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu endorsed a Palestinian state beside Israel for the first time on Sunday, reversing himself under U.S. pressure, but saying the Palestinians would have to lay down arms, a condition they swiftly rejected.
A week after President Obama's address to the Muslim world, Netanyahu said the Palestinian state would also have to recognize Israel as the Jewish state — essentially saying Palestinian refugees must give up the goal of returning to Israel.
With those conditions, he said, he could accept "a demilitarized Palestinian state alongside the Jewish state."
The West Bank-based Palestinian government dismissed the proposal.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
That article is pure BS. I saw the whole speech and he told Barry to pound sand...he merely reiterated what Israel has acknowledged for years...no dividing of Jerusalem, no armed Palis running around, no Hamas...the Palis will never meet his preconditions.
Maybe this is not so bad, he knows they won’t accept anything but total destruction of Israel, so this way he look good
I don’t know, he set terms the Palestinians will never accept, so does it really matter?
EXACTLY. The Palis don’t want a “homeland” ....the want the desecration of the Jews.
It is baloney. So Fox News is in the tank too.
He basically said that he would only accept a Palestinian state when hell freezes over. It’ll take about that long before they accept a Jewish state in their midst.
The Palestinians want what they have been brainwashed to want. The people behind the propaganda, that’s who we need to take care of.
Good luck 0bama in getting the Palestinians to go along.
Here is the way I look at it. Netanyahu is brilliant. He could not give Obama nothing so he gave him the show of working out his peace plan to save face. He gave him nothing in reality because the Palestinians must give up Hamas and demilitarize and recognize Israel as a state. Now if they want peace, they will do this. If not, then they can go pound sand. They will definitely go pound sand.
Just to reiterate what everyone else is saying, Netanyahu, much to his credit, is saying that if and only if the Palestinian illegal government(s) accept terms that technically put “Palestine” under Israeli control, will there ever be a so-called independant state of Palestine. It ain’t ever gonna happen. For anyone who reads this post who doesn’t understand, (no offense), Netanyahu is the leader of the Likud party, equivilant to the conservatives (like us) in the Republican party. He has repeatedly said that he does not wish there to be an independant Palestine, because this breeds more violence, not peace. He is merely reiterating that these terms, which will never be accepted by the Palestinians, are the only terms of an independant Palestine’s existence. And for good reason
Wouldn’t say that necessarily...their website often uses AP articles, which this one is...just chalk it up to another dishonest reporter from the AP.
True enough. But it’s the perception the world takes from this. And that perception, implied throughout the world’s media, is that Bibi caved to Obama. It doesn’t matter to them what he MEANT. It’s whatever they SAY he meant.
Remember, Obama would love to see Israel gone, bye-bye, puff. No doubt. Just look at his connections. As I say in my tagline, Netanyahu is the best person to run Israel right now since their biggest ally, America, is now run by an in-the-closet (not really if you understand his connections) anti-Semite.
BTW, the thread title is misleading. I think that’s already understood thought... sorry for the redundant posts.
I don’t understand all the excitement over this in the American press. Netanyahu basically restated what has been the Israeli position for a long time. To say that a Palestinian state is to be created in the future but not before they meet conditions which hopefully will never be met or else we’ll really have this Palestinian state shoved down our throats while half the world cheers.
So I don’t get why they are acting as if this is the first time they’ve ever heard such a thing. It’s standard, really.
Absolutely agree. Unfortunately, anything further than the headlines is too much for most of our esteemed countrymen. It’s pathetic.
Speak for yo' self! LOL
You are on FR, so you surely don’t fall into that category...the ones who I am referring are still in American Idol withdrawals.
Oh my god.
Bibi played the diplomatic genius card. The ball is in the terrorists/arabs’ court now. He said they could have a “state” as long as they agree to a few simple conditions. He knows they won’t do it.
...reversing himself under US pressure. ..? I call total Barbara Streisand on that statement. Bibi strongly stood his ground. He put all the onus on the Palestinians to change if they want their own state. He also told the Arabs to take care of their own people. Basically saying, if the refugees are poor and starving, they can help them. After all, no one helped the Jews to prosper in the desert.
Yeah. What you said!!!
Depressing? Hardly, he kicked Bozo’s butt. He put conditions on forming a separate state that the muslims will never approve, and made it clear that Israel had to be declared an existing Jewish state. He didn’t cave into anything.
OR having a Susan Boyle breakdown. Lord, all the electrical charges from misfiring neurons around this could probably power a small city for a week!
Netanyahu is re-positioning his chess pieces in his major strategic problem with Iran. In order to deal with Iran, Netanyahu needs the United States, and the acting-president who is driving a Islamic-friendly agenda.
If Iran gets nukes, one-fourth of Israelis have said they would leave Israel. Even if only partially-true, Netanyahu would also be risking civil war in his own country if he gives Palestine an inch of Jerusalem, which is the ultimately goal of Palestine (and Islamic community).
Here's the KEY condition of Netanyahu's speech (which would ultimately kill any real deal):
If we receive this guarantee regarding demilitarization and Israel's security needs, and if the Palestinians recognize Israel as the State of the Jewish people, then we will be ready in a future peace agreement to reach a solution where a demilitarized Palestinian state exists alongside the Jewish state.
REALLY?!!
This is the real point of his speech, for sure, but that isn’t the way the media is reporting it. We are preaching to the choir here. It’s the braindead and Jew haters of the world who are going to read this exactly like the left wants them to.
He’s mocking Obama Scyth.
This may not be any change at all. Bibi says the words that give Obama political cover, but with conditions he knows Palestinians will reject.
This is a great move by Bibi.
He has exposed the truth of the “palestinian state” 0bama wants.
Jerusalem only become a Holy City to Islam when they saw they could use it to help their conquest of the ME.
What this does is puts 0bama in the position of either rejecting Bibi’s offer and demanding an armed Palestine, divided Jerusalem, and an end to Israel as a Jewish state, or he accepts it and loses his justification for his anti-Israel activities.
It really puts 0bama on the spot between a rock and a hard place.
Exactly! He gave them an offer he knew they would refuse.
Palestinians already rejected the offer so the world has already seen that Bibi offered and it was rejected. Ball now in ZERO’s court.
They can read it anyway they want to. As long as Israel doesnt capitulate to Jew-hating Barack, the good guys win.
obama is playing with the big boys now.
:)
LOL! Dead ON!
Wtf kind of a headline is that? /groan
From the article: “The White House said Obama welcomed the speech as an “important step forward.”
A first step to what? To the world realizing that 0 is an empty suit? I don’t see anything else changing.
I'm not defending FNC, as I have my own problems with them, but it's just an AP piece that posted via foxnews.com.
I agree with you. This is a simply propaganda from the US media to give impression that under 0bama, everything goes smoothly.
This is an AP article. AP worships Hussein. AP, therefore, is doing its best to make Hussein look good.
Essentially, Bibi told Hussein to shove it. The Palestinian state can exist, says Bibi...BUT it cannot have arms and it must get rid of Hamas and the Israeli settlements will continue and the P’s must acknowledge Israel’s right to exist AS A JEWISH STATE.
This seems to be like saying, “Yeah, we’ll let you fish come up and live on land as long as you grow some air-lungs and feet.” It ain’t gonna happen.
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But make sure it’s well within rocket range of Is.,,,,,,,sucka.
Palestinian Authority officials in Ramallah expressed outrage and shock on Sunday over Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's call for the establishment of a demilitarized Palestinian state and his demand that the Palestinians recognize Israel as a Jewish state.
The officials said that the speech that Netanyahu delivered at Bar-Ilan University was much worse than they had expected.
They also warned that Netanyahu's policies would trigger a new intifada.
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