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Judge Rules Terrorist Can Sue Bush Administration Lawyer Over Torture Claim
Foxnews ^ | June 13, 2009 | AP

Posted on 06/13/2009 6:56:00 PM PDT by reader25

A convicted terrorist can sue a former Bush administration lawyer for drafting the legal theories that led to his alleged torture, ruled a federal judge has ruled who said he was trying to balance a clash between war and the defense of personal freedoms.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; convictedterrorist; globaljihad; jihad; josepadilla; lawfare; lawyer; legal; padilla; ruling; terrorist; terrotist; tm; torture

1 posted on 06/13/2009 6:56:02 PM PDT by reader25
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To: reader25

That’s nice. I’ll use the precedent to sue Obama and his lawyers if we get hit with another terrorist attack.


2 posted on 06/13/2009 6:58:14 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: reader25
This is pure insanity.

A CONVICTED TERRORIST can sue the enemy of the TERRORIST?

What the hell is this country coming to?

A Zimbabwe? Headed by a terrorist?

Hmmm?

3 posted on 06/13/2009 7:00:39 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: reader25

Just Wonderful and all the while everybody is fuming at David Letterman


4 posted on 06/13/2009 7:01:05 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

It figures that it comes from some left wing judge from San Francisco.


5 posted on 06/13/2009 7:01:55 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: reader25

I’m sure the relatives of those folks in Waco(real torture victims) are glad to hear this, but I bet Janet is nowhere to be found.


6 posted on 06/13/2009 7:02:16 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: reader25

.......sigh........:(


7 posted on 06/13/2009 7:03:12 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Socialism is the worst kind of Pollution.)
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To: reader25

“His lawsuit alleges he was illegally detained and was subjected to sleep deprivation, temperature extremes, painful stress positions, and extended periods of bright lights and total darkness.”

This sounds like what most pwer plant construction workers are subjected to on a daily basis.


8 posted on 06/13/2009 7:04:00 PM PDT by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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To: 444Flyer; Nachum

Someone please tell me what the you-know-what is going on?


9 posted on 06/13/2009 7:04:27 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: reader25

Since these maggots in their black robes have decided they want “some skin in the game” in the WOT, it’s time we start drafting their asses, give them an M-16 and stick them over there in Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe then they’ll get a feel for what the war against Islamofascism is really all about.


10 posted on 06/13/2009 7:06:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Why is the yellow-bellied coward, David Letterman, afraid of Governor Sarah Palin?)
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To: reader25

A convicted terrorist can sue a lawyer involved in approving the “torture” (sounds like my college dorm during finals week), but Alan Keyes, Dr. Taitz, Donofrio, et al, can’t sue 0bama??

Justice is not blind, it is skewed.


12 posted on 06/13/2009 7:07:35 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann in 2012. With Liz Cheney as Secretary of State.)
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To: reader25
Balance the personal freedoms of a terrorist who wants to kill us, who was taken on the battlefield, this judge wants to balance those personal freedoms against the war itself.

This Judge is one sick bastard.

We are at a pivotal crossroads in our nation's history. A very steep, very hard and dangerous roads leads one way...an abject fatal precipice leads the other.

FREEPER NOUMENON'S ASSESSMENT OF THIS POINT IN HISTORY - POST 15

MY RESPONSE TO NOUMENON'S EXCELLENT WORDS - POST 54

WHEN TRUTH BECOMES TREASON

13 posted on 06/13/2009 7:09:19 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: reader25

I assume that all future victims of terrorism will be allowed to sue this judge over this legal opinion.....


14 posted on 06/13/2009 7:12:03 PM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: Tzimisce

I just weep for my country. I can’t even sleep at night anymore knowing that our country has been taken over by a bunch of deranged liberals.


15 posted on 06/13/2009 7:14:29 PM PDT by kezzek
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To: kezzek

Take heart and keep the faith as the deranged liberals have limited time.


16 posted on 06/13/2009 7:15:49 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: reader25
Absurd. I they can sue John Yoo, surely they can sue Bush and Cheney. For that matter, isn't there a Spanish judge after Cheney and Bush for war crimes. Expedited extradition anyone. Just Living in an Obamanation.
17 posted on 06/13/2009 7:19:05 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: nmh
This is pure insanity

Insanity is having a belief that we have a government not unlike Venezuela.

18 posted on 06/13/2009 7:21:06 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Before you know it cows will sue Omaha Steaks, trees will sue Georgia-Pacific, cats and dogs sueing their owners.
19 posted on 06/13/2009 7:21:14 PM PDT by DHSMostWanted (The Socialists are coming! The Socialists are coming! Dang they're here!)
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To: reader25

This is absolutely crazy.


20 posted on 06/13/2009 7:22:47 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: CdMGuy
It figures that it comes from some left wing judge from San Francisco.

Nominated by GWB in 2002.

21 posted on 06/13/2009 7:23:01 PM PDT by Washi
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To: Boardwalk
Take heart and keep the faith as the deranged liberals have limited time.

What ever makes you that optimistic?

22 posted on 06/13/2009 7:23:22 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: kezzek

I can’t even sleep at night anymore knowing that our country has been taken over by a bunch of deranged liberals.
_____________

I know the feeling. It’s the last thing I think of before I go to bed and the first thing I think of when I wake up. But let me correct a bit of your statement:

I can’t even sleep at night anymore knowing that our country has been taken over by a bunch of deranged MARXIST COMMUNISTS.


23 posted on 06/13/2009 7:26:30 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: reader25

The judge was appointed in 2002 to the 9th circuit. That means G.W. Bush. My hunch is - by letting Padia sue the lawyer who wrote up the document that let Padia be classed as an enemy combatant, and then allowed him to be interogated under the same set of documents, the opportunity is there to find that both are sound legal documents. Yoo is no dumny and he had the resonsibility of providing an opinion, which he did. Just because you sue, doesn’t mean you’ll win and I don’t think Padia will win. It’ll have to work it’s way through the courts, but in the end, as in past decisions, the Bush administration, has been vindicated. Just wish the personal angst could be avoided for Yoo.


24 posted on 06/13/2009 7:26:43 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: reader25

It’s not the idiot Padilla who’s suing, it’s his shysters paid by you and me!


25 posted on 06/13/2009 7:27:57 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Bratch

That’s funny, (in its own way)


26 posted on 06/13/2009 7:28:08 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Digger

I’m not feeling very optimistic either.


27 posted on 06/13/2009 7:29:55 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: reader25

Sue the judge for treason or giving aid and comfort to the enemy during a time of war. We really need more civilian class action suits going these days. I mean, since it’s our money going to the these car industries, etc., where are the proxies that should go out to every taxpayer re: all these rulings made on just who gets the biggest part of the pie - and who made O the CEO???


28 posted on 06/13/2009 7:31:28 PM PDT by Kandy
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To: reader25

I truly hope this anti-American jackass judge finds himself right smack in the middle of the next terrorist attack on this country. Because of the jerkoffs running the country it’s a foregone conclusion we’ll be hit so I only hope the get as many asses like this as possible.


29 posted on 06/13/2009 7:33:37 PM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: reader25

WTF...


30 posted on 06/13/2009 7:34:50 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: All

A closer look at Jose Padilla:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/josepadilla/index


31 posted on 06/13/2009 7:40:08 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: reader25

EEEHHHH Don’t worry....the CIA will make sure the terrorist never see the inside of a court room.


32 posted on 06/13/2009 7:44:28 PM PDT by Morgana (Nothing is more conducive to peace of mind than not having any opinions at all. --Georg Lichtenberg<)
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To: nmh
This is pure insanity.

A CONVICTED TERRORIST can sue the enemy of the TERRORIST?

What the hell is this country coming to?

A Zimbabwe? Headed by a terrorist?...

This is going to DRIVE ME NUTS! It is so wrong. I am ready to hit the streets. THIS IS PURE INSANITY!

THIS CANNOT STAND!

33 posted on 06/13/2009 7:45:35 PM PDT by Republic (Jedem das Seine)
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This judge is an enemy of American and should be treated as such.

No further comment.


34 posted on 06/13/2009 7:47:13 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("We Are All Socialists Now"........not me, not now, not ever)
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stepping back in time...ADDING to post no. 31:

US DOJ.gov/opa - Press Release: Miami - "JOSE PADILLA AND CO-DEFENDANTS SENTENCED ON TERRORISM CHARGES" (January 22, 2008)

COUNTERTERRORISM BLOG.org: "ACCUSED AL-QAEDA JIHADIST JOSE PADILLA SENTENCED" by Jeffrey Imm (January 22, 2008)

35 posted on 06/13/2009 7:51:37 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Bratch

Saved for future use. :)


36 posted on 06/13/2009 7:52:15 PM PDT by cranked
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To: All

stepping back in time...

January 22, 2008

Note: The following text is a quote:

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2008/January/08_nsd_046.html

Jose Padilla and Co-defendants Sentenced on Terrorism Charges

MIAMI – A federal Judge in the Southern District of Florida has sentenced Jose Padilla, Adham Amin Hassoun, and Kifah Wael Jayyousi on charges of conspiracy to murder, kidnap and maim individuals in a foreign country, conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists, and providing material support to terrorists, Assistant Attorney General for National Security, Kenneth L. Wainstein, and U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, R. Alexander Acosta, announced today.

U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke sentenced Padilla to a term of 208 months, Hassoun to a term of 188 months imprisonment, and Jayyousi to a term of 152 months imprisonment.

“I want to thank the many attorneys and staff, both prosecution and defense, as well as judicial officers, who worked diligently on this prosecution. Their efforts often go unrecognized, yet it is their work that helps ensure justice in our nation,” said U.S. Attorney R. Alexander Acosta.

“I applaud the professionalism and perseverance of the many agents, investigators and prosecutors who worked so tirelessly to bring this case to a successful conclusion. Thanks to their efforts, the defendants’ North American support cell has been dismantled and can no longer send money and jihadist recruits to conflicts overseas,” said Kenneth L. Wainstein, Assistant Attorney General for National Security.

The defendants were charged in an 11-count superseding indictment returned on Nov. 17, 2005. The jury found the defendants guilty of being part of a North American support cell designed to send money, physical assets, and mujahideen recruits to overseas jihad conflicts. The cell operated from many cities in the United States and Canada, and supported and coordinated with other support networks and mujahideen groups waging violent jihad.

The jury found that Padilla traveled overseas to receive violent jihad training and to fight violent jihad, which would include acts of murder, kidnapping and maiming, from October 1993 to November 2001. On July 24, 2000, Padilla filled out a “Mujahideen Data Form” in preparation for violent jihad training in Afghanistan.

Mr. Acosta commended the investigative efforts of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, with assistance from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) at the Department of Homeland Security.

This case was prosecuted by Assistant U.S. Attorneys Brian Frazier, Russell Killinger and John Shipley of the Southern District of Florida, and Trial Attorney Stephanie Pell of the Counterterrorism Section of the Justice Department’s National Security Division.

A copy of this press release may be found on the website of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Florida at www.usdoj.gov/usao/fls. Related court documents and information may be found on the website of the District Court for the Southern District of Florida at www.flsd.uscourts.gov or on http://pacer.flsd.uscourts.gov.

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08-046


37 posted on 06/13/2009 7:53:09 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: FMBass; reader25
“His lawsuit alleges he was illegally detained and was subjected to sleep deprivation, temperature extremes, painful stress positions, and extended periods of bright lights and total darkness *.”

This sounds like what most power plant construction workers are subjected to on a daily basis.

Hey ! America sent me off for a year where I experienced the same things!* What the hell?

Nam Vet

38 posted on 06/13/2009 7:54:19 PM PDT by Nam Vet ("Any fool can make a rule, and any fool will mind it." .... Henry David Thoreau)
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To: All

ADDING to post no. 31:

Noted aka’s:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/profiles/jose_padilla.htm


39 posted on 06/13/2009 7:58:47 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Nam Vet

Sounds like a typical day at work to me


40 posted on 06/13/2009 9:47:23 PM PDT by clamper1797 (FUBO ... the Anti-Reagan)
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To: pacpam
"It’ll have to work it’s way through the courts...

And who pays for Yoo's legal bills? Doesn't matter if he's vindicated, he will have huge legal bills that may bankrupt him.

41 posted on 06/13/2009 9:48:32 PM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Nachum; greyfoxx39

ping


42 posted on 06/13/2009 10:15:24 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; neverdem; Impy; Norman Bates; zendari

I wonder who appointed this judge?


43 posted on 06/13/2009 10:16:54 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The McCain/Palin ticket was like a Kangaroo, stronger on the bottom than at the top)
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To: HollyB
Apparently there is no longer under the rule of law. This is insane beyond imagination.
44 posted on 06/13/2009 10:35:54 PM PDT by 444Flyer (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.--Orwell)
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To: reader25

Since when is it a judge’s job to “balance a clash between war and the defense of personal freedoms.”

We really, really need to reign in the judiciary. He should be removed from the bench by congress (not that that would ever happen).


45 posted on 06/14/2009 7:43:10 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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To: reader25

Umbelievable! We are talking a convicted terrorist who wanted to use a dirty bomb!!!
This is frightening and putting the interests of the US at risk. I am speechless..


46 posted on 06/14/2009 9:17:41 PM PDT by Italianpatriot
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To: Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; metmom; Gondring

Judge Jeffrey White was appointed by, GW Bush in 2002.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_White

And it’s clear now why the Daschle/Jeffords Senate didn’t hold up his nomination.


47 posted on 06/15/2009 3:43:07 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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