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Oh, Say Can You Sing It? (Mike Kinsley wants to replace the Star-Spangled Banner as National Anthem)
Washington Post ^ | 06/12/2009 | Michael Kinsley

Posted on 06/12/2009 12:34:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

In the Age of Karaoke, more people (including me) like to join in the singing when they strike up the national anthem at public occasions. No one can stop you, no matter how embarrassed she might be by your obvious lack of talent. It's always disappointing when you're invited to stand and enjoy some high school glee club or famous opera singer. But chances are that even the opera singer won't get it right.

"The Star-Spangled Banner" is notoriously unsingable. A professor of music, Caldwell Titcomb of Brandeis, pointed out years ago in the New Republic that its melody spans nearly two octaves, when most people are good for one octave, max. The first eight lines are one enormous sentence with subordinate clauses, leaving no really good place to take a breath. There are far too many mandatory leaps off the high board (". . . what so PROU-dly we hail . . .").

The melody is lifted from an old English drinking song. The lyrics are all about bombs and war and bloodshed -- and not in a good way. By the penultimate verse, the song has turned really nasty: "No refuge could save the hireling and slave/From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave." In the first verse -- the one we generally sing -- there is only one reference to any value commonly associated with America: "land of the free." By contrast, "home of the brave" is empty bravado. There is nothing in the American myth (let alone reality) to suggest that we are braver than anyone else.

No, "The Star-Spangled Banner" has got to go. The only question is, What should replace it? Here we have an embarrassment of riches. Let's review some of the candidates.

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Some of his candidates :

* My Country 'Tis of thee

* Battle Hymn of the Republic

* America the Beautiful

* God Bless America

* This Land Is Your Land ( Woodie Guthrie )

* Born in the USA ( Bruce Springsteen )

1 posted on 06/12/2009 12:34:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

God Bless America is fine with me...plus it would piss off the Libs.


2 posted on 06/12/2009 12:36:09 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: SeekAndFind

Being from Maryland I proudly stand by “The Star Spangled Banner.”


3 posted on 06/12/2009 12:38:06 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102

Uhhh, no!


4 posted on 06/12/2009 12:40:20 PM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how.)
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To: pnh102

How about Kumbaya? Of course there is the line ‘kumbaya my Lord’, but ‘Lord’ could be refering to ‘St. Obama’.


5 posted on 06/12/2009 12:41:09 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Slapshot68

I love God Bless America as well. I love it when they sing it in my church.


6 posted on 06/12/2009 12:41:16 PM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
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To: SeekAndFind

How about that Barney the purple dinosaur song, “I love you, you love me ...”


7 posted on 06/12/2009 12:41:20 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: SeekAndFind
Time for Kinsley to get out of the way of history. The Star Bangled Banner is about funny little foreign pukes attacking the United States.

It's a pledge to take the first blow and still get up and fight back.

If Kinsley doesn't like my thoughts on the matter I challenge him to a duel ~ pocket knives at 1 meter ~ 1 hand. Cut his guts out!

8 posted on 06/12/2009 12:41:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind; All
Yes, Michael wants to replace "The Star Spangled Banner" with his choice, a song of peace love and joy for all ...

"It's Raining Men!"
9 posted on 06/12/2009 12:41:55 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (No greater friend, no worse enemy -The United States Marine Corps.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m totally surprised that Kinsley is still alive. He was suffering from acute stupidity the last I heard and thought it would have taken him by now.


10 posted on 06/12/2009 12:42:03 PM PDT by fish hawk (The trouble with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Since everything else these days seems to be about the Obamas, in honor of Michelle, I nominate “Baby Got Back”.


11 posted on 06/12/2009 12:42:15 PM PDT by PalmettoMason ("an empty limousine pulled up in front of the White House, and Barack Obama got out")
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To: SeekAndFind
Washington Post and Michael Kinsley.

Liberal anti-American scum.

What they think or say should be of no interest to loyal Americans.

12 posted on 06/12/2009 12:43:07 PM PDT by Czar ((Still Fed Up to the Teeth with Washington))
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To: SeekAndFind
It is good the Star-Spangled Banner is difficult to sing. That way only good singers usually try it. Karaoke idiots or Tanked up trash like Roseanne would screw up any song.

Karaoke is Japan's revenge for losing the war.

13 posted on 06/12/2009 12:43:12 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: SeekAndFind

They want to remake this country from the top to the bottom into something very different


14 posted on 06/12/2009 12:44:30 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

No way on Gods earth to the last 2


15 posted on 06/12/2009 12:44:53 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind
If they'd stop this stupid-ass idea of trying to sing it acapella, it might be easier for the hoi poloi to sing along.

And regarding the breaths, I arranged this song for chorus and fixed the breathing problem.

16 posted on 06/12/2009 12:45:15 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: SeekAndFind

Tradition says no.

But, he’s right. Musically, the Star Spangled Banner is a bit of a nightmare. America the Beautiful would be much more singable, though far less martial. I like the suggestion of the Battle Hymn, though it has little to do with America as a country. Plus, the difficulty of the SSB invites wannabe singing idols to ham it up as a way to avoid the wild jumps and leaps the music takes. Something more singable might remove the temptation to “improve” the anthem.


17 posted on 06/12/2009 12:45:19 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Islamofanatics" yet?)
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To: Slapshot68

I suggest that song from Mr Rogers Neighborhood.

Its a Beautiful Day In The Neighborhood

a plus because it is easy to sing


18 posted on 06/12/2009 12:45:36 PM PDT by indylindy (Anyone dumb enough to have voted for him deserves what they get.. No Pity!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trash all of them. A new day requires a new song. How about that one in which O-BA-MA! O-BA-MA! is chanted over and over?


19 posted on 06/12/2009 12:45:40 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." --Orwell)
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To: SeekAndFind
* This Land Is Your Land ( Woodie Guthrie )

Great tune if you're a commie/socialist.

20 posted on 06/12/2009 12:46:11 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: SeekAndFind
Liberals like the Battle Hymn of the Republic? I find that hard to believe, unless it's just for the purpose of sticking their finger in the eye of the South.

We don't need to worry, though. When Obama turns the US, Canada and Mexico into the Caliphate of the Americas, singing and music will be a violation of Sharia Law. So the point will be moot.

21 posted on 06/12/2009 12:46:18 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: SeekAndFind

While I like many of the songs on the list, I think we are doing just fine with The Star Spangled Banner. Not only does it have historical significance, but that it is a difficult song underscores the difficulties we’ve faced as a country, from securing our independence to forming a nation, to many wars.

For the record, I detest This Land is Your Land. I hated singing it in grade school and it is just a silly song.


22 posted on 06/12/2009 12:46:55 PM PDT by Crolis (Kill your television!)
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To: muawiyah

Given that the first eight lines end as a question, he needs to reread the subject of his articles or get a new professor.


23 posted on 06/12/2009 12:47:29 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: SeekAndFind
With Obama's economic and social policies, I expect it will be The Internationale. Or else bring back the Soviet Union's anthem.
24 posted on 06/12/2009 12:47:56 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Chrysler and GM are what Marx meant by the means of production.)
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To: fish hawk

Unfortunately (for us), many of its sufferers linger for YEARS; decades, even.

Case in point: one Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts).


25 posted on 06/12/2009 12:48:23 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I think my old tagline would interest you.

I sing karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese.


26 posted on 06/12/2009 12:48:36 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: SeekAndFind

How about the “Team America” song?


27 posted on 06/12/2009 12:48:43 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: SeekAndFind
Since 9/11, I only sing the fourth verse in public.
*************

O! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: 'In God is our trust.'
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

28 posted on 06/12/2009 12:49:07 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: SeekAndFind
Since when is the New Republic authority for anything, much less some music prof with a chip on his shoulder?

He really gives himself away in the second paragraph. What he objects to is not the music, it's the horrible nasty blood and . . . oh horrors! . . . WAR! And he has to slam Americans as not braver than anyone else. Bet a bunch of 'not braver' old guys from Anzio or Iwo could still punch his head.

Besides, he's factually wrong. TWO octaves? No way. At most it's an octave and four, and really all the action takes place within an octave and one. The so-called difficult leaps are a sixth or less.

The thing is, there's a TRICK to singing the SSB, once you know it you'll never have trouble with it again. Don't start (as is everybody's habit) with the first note in the middle of your range. Hum as LOW as you can comfortably sing, put the THIRD note there, then back up. You'll find you can hit the highest note in quite reasonable comfort.

29 posted on 06/12/2009 12:49:29 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Mr. Jazzy
""It's Raining Men!"

Written by Paul Schaeffer. See, everything connected to Letterman is pathetic.

30 posted on 06/12/2009 12:49:35 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: KarlInOhio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91kdwxFsthI

That’s the TICKET!!!!!


31 posted on 06/12/2009 12:51:06 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: SeekAndFind
The melody is lifted from an old English drinking song.

And that's a bad thing?
32 posted on 06/12/2009 12:52:17 PM PDT by BJClinton (One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: BJClinton
I think a drinking song is very appropriate considering what Obama is doing to the country!
33 posted on 06/12/2009 12:53:59 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: LonePalm
congrats on knowing there are more verses, just leave it the hell alone.
34 posted on 06/12/2009 12:54:41 PM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Leaveit alone and make it a fellony to improvise like the so called professionals do in murdering it!


35 posted on 06/12/2009 12:55:17 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: BJClinton

Let’s replace it with the Battle Hymn of the Republic then. That would piss off both the Southern Revisionists and the Left-Wing God haters (it references the book of Revelations)


36 posted on 06/12/2009 12:55:44 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Little Pig
America the Beautiful would be much more singable, though far less martial.

I don't like the current national anthem one bit. It's only been "official" since 1931, so changing it wouldn't overturn some set-in-concrete rule, imho. It's always bothered me that it doesn't acknowledge the Creator at all.

Here are the full lyrics to "America the Beautiful", it's actually more martial than I realized.

O beautiful for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!

O beautiful for pilgrim feet
Whose stern impassioned stress
A thoroughfare of freedom beat
Across the wilderness!
America! America!
God mend thine every flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law!

O beautiful for heroes proved
In liberating strife.
Who more than self their country loved
And mercy more than life!
America! America!
May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness
And every gain divine!

O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!

O beautiful for halcyon skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the enameled plain!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till souls wax fair as earth and air
And music-hearted sea!

O beautiful for pilgrims feet,
Whose stem impassioned stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till paths be wrought through
wilds of thought
By pilgrim foot and knee!

O beautiful for glory-tale
Of liberating strife
When once and twice,
for man's avail
Men lavished precious life!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till selfish gain no longer stain
The banner of the free!

O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till nobler men keep once again
Thy whiter jubilee!

37 posted on 06/12/2009 12:58:06 PM PDT by 6323cd (Loyal Oppostion My Ass)
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To: SeekAndFind

I get major league goosebumps whenever I hear the Star Spangled Banner. The other songs are nice, but they just don’t cut it as our national anthem. As far as being difficult to sing, I’ve heard some very fine singers belt it out beautifully, even going one high note higher than what is written.


38 posted on 06/12/2009 12:59:08 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: SeekAndFind

Whey do we need something we can sing? How About STARS AND STRIPES FOREVER!

I mentioned Woody Guthrie’s song on FR years ago. Only problem is he was a socialist.

I do like GOD BLESS AMERICA!


39 posted on 06/12/2009 1:00:08 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (A modern liberal is someone who doesn't care what you do so long as it is compulsory.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Living In America

Superhighways - coast to coast - easy takin' anywhere -
On the transcontinental overload
just slide behind the wheel.
How does it feel when there's no destination that's too far

And somewhere on the way
you might find out who you are.

Living in America - eye to eye - station to station.
Living in America - hand in hand - across the nation.
Living in America - got to have a celebration - rock my soul!

Smokestack - fatback - many miles of railroad track.
All-night radio keep on runnin' through your rock'n' roll soul.
All-night diners keep you awake
on a black coffee and a hard roll.
you might have to walk a fine line
you might take a hard line

But everybody's workin' overtime.

Living in America - eye to eye - station to station....

I live in America - I live in America - wait a minute -
you may not be lookin' for the promised land

But you might find it anyway.
Under one of those old familiar names like;
New Orleans - New Orleans
Detroit City - Detroit City

Dallas - Dallas
Pittsburgh P. A. - Pittsburgh P. A.

New York City - New York City
Kansas City - Kansas City


Atlanta - Atlanta.
Chicago and L. A.

Living in America - hit me - living in America - Iiving in America.
I live in America - staying alive - we'll make the prime.
I live in America - hey
I know what it means.


Living in America - hit me - eye to eye - station to station.
Living in America - so nice - would you better stop?
Living in America - I feel good!


40 posted on 06/12/2009 1:00:31 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obamanation: an imploding administration headed by a clueless schmuck, with McCain as his Kowakian)
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To: SeekAndFind
Michael Kinsley would probably prefer something by The Village People or Queen.
41 posted on 06/12/2009 1:00:50 PM PDT by McGruff (Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency - Obama)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Kinsley and the white whine drinking atheistic Left dont like it, then it must be fine. Lets leave it as it is.


42 posted on 06/12/2009 1:01:40 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: SeekAndFind
Sing it. It doesn't matter if you sing it badly, it's better if you learn to sing it well, but sing it.

Isaac Asimov's Star-Spangled Banner Essay

R.I.P., Dr. Asimov.

43 posted on 06/12/2009 1:02:06 PM PDT by Cheburashka ("Ah, Roulette. My favorite game, after Call of Duty.")
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To: AnAmericanMother

You are 100% musically and factually correct. It’s amazing how libs just won’t let facts get in the way of a B.S. story. It is indeed an octave plus a perfect fourth — but a lib wouldn’t recognize perfection if it bit them in the rear.

My music department chair and theory professors, both of whom have PhDs, would roll over laughing if they read this. Your solution to the “problem” with singing the SSB is spot on!!

Do you have a formal music education background? Sure sounds like it.


44 posted on 06/12/2009 1:02:11 PM PDT by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
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To: SeekAndFind

Born in the USA is an anti-American song.


45 posted on 06/12/2009 1:03:55 PM PDT by Hildy (In Venezuela Coke Zero is bad for your health. In the U.S. Zero on Coke is bad for your healthcare.)
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To: SeekAndFind

My vote would be for “Dixie”

Or perhaps “Don’t Tread On Me” by Metallica.; )


46 posted on 06/12/2009 1:04:48 PM PDT by marine86297 (I'll never forgive Clinton for Somalia, my blood is on his hands)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lefties like Kinsley would prefer the Internationale, the old Commie anthem.


47 posted on 06/12/2009 1:05:34 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: SeekAndFind

How could a pussy like kinsey know anything about bravery? People like kinsey are why I believe in abortion in certain circumstances!


48 posted on 06/12/2009 1:07:11 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: murron

Amen. I particularly get goose bumps and a lump in my throat when I see any of the military service bands (particuarly the Army band) peform it. It also makes my eyes misty when our flag is raised during the Olympic medal ceremonies.


49 posted on 06/12/2009 1:09:13 PM PDT by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
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To: SeekAndFind
Ok here my list:

The Republic of Kenya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RRLLaq2VM8

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLi_m656tQQ

The Peoples Republic of China
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUaBmQf0flI

The Islamic Republic of Iran
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=OFGL7gI9u_E&feature=PlayList&p=A03A67A48257EEC1&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=37

Islamic Call to Prayer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAvlimEYEpQ

Wild Card!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CImrIKNmBo
Please pick one!
50 posted on 06/12/2009 1:10:46 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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