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Suspect in soldier shooting says he was justified
Associated Press ^ | June 9, 2009 | KELLY P. KISSEL

Posted on 06/09/2009 12:30:53 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) - A Muslim convert charged in the killing of a soldier at a recruiting center in Arkansas says he didn't consider it murder because U.S. military action in the Middle East made the killing justified.

Abdulhakim Muhammad told The Associated Press Tuesday in Little Rock that he confessed to police that he killed Pvt. William Long outside an Army-Navy recruiting center.

But he said murder exists only "without a justified reason."

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1 posted on 06/09/2009 12:30:53 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A convert to the religion of peace.


2 posted on 06/09/2009 12:31:52 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Joe Boucher

Defended by the DOJ and ACLU against Americans.


3 posted on 06/09/2009 12:33:50 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I guess he didn’t get the memo from ‘O’.


4 posted on 06/09/2009 12:34:11 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Public hanging would be a suitable sentence for this POC.


5 posted on 06/09/2009 12:34:15 PM PDT by Bobkk47
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Of course he’d say that.


6 posted on 06/09/2009 12:34:22 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Free ThinkerNY
But he said murder exists only "without a justified reason."

Guess where that puts him in regards to capital punishment.

7 posted on 06/09/2009 12:34:28 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Well, at least the guy knows the democrat talking points.


8 posted on 06/09/2009 12:34:28 PM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
A Muslim convert charged in the killing of a soldier at a recruiting center in Arkansas says he didn't consider it murder because U.S. military action in the Middle East made the killing justified.

Yeah try that defense in an Arkansas courtroom and see where it gets you.

9 posted on 06/09/2009 12:35:47 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Ok....so is he a prisoner of war?

Military tribunals have different rules, and guilty parties get hanged.

Also, if the jihadis declared open warfare, shouldn't the recruiters start arming themselves?

10 posted on 06/09/2009 12:36:11 PM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Somehow,, I’ve got a feeling at his trial he’ll be shackled and his mouth taped shut....


11 posted on 06/09/2009 12:36:19 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Suspect in soldier shooting says he was justified

with logic like that, he can count on our islamic messiah to grant him a presidential pardon and give him a job with the pentagon.

12 posted on 06/09/2009 12:37:36 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
But he said murder exists only "without a justified reason

Yeah, you just keep thinking that way baby when you're getting ready to take a little nap!

13 posted on 06/09/2009 12:37:37 PM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

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It seems to me that there are two spheres of activity here. In one, the murderer gunned down a soldier and will face the legal consequences.

However, this neglects the other sphere of activity.

The fanatic was acting in the name of his religion, in a religious act, and indifferent to the legal consequences. The law truly means nothing to him.

For this reason, the fanatic *also* needs to face religious consequences as well as legal consequences. This is a difficult concept for secular westerners to understand, but an important one.

He must be stripped of his Muslim sanctimony.

There are many things a Muslim can do, or have done to them, that strips them of their righteousness by *their* rules. That denies them forever their religious goals. For many (if not all Muslims), this involves being contaminated with pork or pork products.

So his sentence, as it were, will be to somehow splash him, assault him, with pork grease. In his eyes, and the eyes of his fellow Muslims, this matters far more than even his being executed. It is an irrevocable punishment, and *importantly* has an extremely strong deterrent effect against other Muslims who contemplate other such murderous crimes.

For this reason, to save lives, it is *essential* that he be splashed with pork fat.

Only at first does this sound ludicrous. But it is deadly serious. US General “Blackjack” Pershing ended a protracted and vicious war by performing a similar act. After trying for years to conduct war in the first sphere of action, the bloody war still raged. But with a single act in the second sphere, his Muslim enemy immediately stopped hostilities.

In short, he not only needs to be splashed with pork fat, but pictures of that attack need to be widely disseminated, with the message:

“Those who murder for jihad are covered in pork fat.”

The impact of this single act will be extraordinary. The Muslim world will scream in horror that this murderer will have forfeited his soul, not that he has murdered an innocent. But it will be deeply terrifying to them. This will be obvious by their cries and protests, threats and demands.

But more than anything else, it will make the Muslim world fearful. They will fear attacking innocents, for fear that they will meet the same fate.

Pork fat could end much of this war.


14 posted on 06/09/2009 12:38:34 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Bobkk47

Cut his head off.


15 posted on 06/09/2009 12:38:50 PM PDT by FES0844
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To: Free ThinkerNY

....look for more black converts to launch attacks on whites in years to come....they are Islam’s 5th column of the future.


16 posted on 06/09/2009 12:39:50 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Bah! By that “reasoning”, anybody who suspected his wife of cheating would be justified...... Oh, wait. They do that.


17 posted on 06/09/2009 12:40:04 PM PDT by chesley ("Hate" -- You wouldn't understand; it's a leftist thing)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
A Muslim convert charged in the killing of a soldier at a recruiting center in Arkansas says he didn't consider it murder because U.S. military action in the Middle East made the killing justified.

If that's true, then the 60,000 abortions and the killing of George Tiller was likewise justified? /sarc

18 posted on 06/09/2009 12:40:25 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
A few weeks ago a really stupid female congresscritter from Florida argued against adding members of our armed forces to the list of groups in her hate crimes bill. She alleged that no one was out to harm members of the armed forces despite the Goose Creek (SC) and Fort Dix (NJ) attempts.

I think we need a federal law that makes conviction of an armed assault upon a member of our armed forces require mandatory life without parole or the death sentence and to require all appeals to be filed within 14 days and heard within 21. That means within 70 days of conviction the appeals process would be over...and on the 71st day, the scumbag can be given a shot to guarantee he would never catch the flu.

19 posted on 06/09/2009 12:42:45 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Bobkk47

Public hanging would be a suitable sentence for this POC.”

Give me a few shots at him with my 12 gauge...I want to wound him multiple times, and then let him lay there and watch his guts fall out on the sand.


20 posted on 06/09/2009 12:42:48 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Bury him face down with a rotting pig and his feet toward meca


21 posted on 06/09/2009 12:46:43 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: Bobkk47
Public hanging would be a suitable sentence for this POC.

Nah...after all, he's a mussie and deserves punishment a la Sharia law: Caning, Stoning, Hanging, Beheading and then body burned.

22 posted on 06/09/2009 12:47:54 PM PDT by meandog (Doh!)
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To: Joe Boucher

First Terrorist Attack on American soil since since 9/11.


23 posted on 06/09/2009 12:48:37 PM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I don’t understand why he can’t be charged w/ treason: after all, I think his actions prove that:

(1) He declared war against the US;, &
(2) He gave aid & comfort to our enemies

Whaddy’a think???

All we need to do is find 2 witnesses that would appear on court to testify, correct???


24 posted on 06/09/2009 12:49:31 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: ChrisInAR

Have you writen your congress critter that there should be a federal law against assaulting a US Serviceman on duty?
This should not be tried in a state court, but in federal court with a quicker route the the death chamber.
Plus..when his buddies try to ransome him out of jail, he should be in a Federal pin..not state.


25 posted on 06/09/2009 1:03:30 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The suspect will be “justified” in receiving any and all due punishment once he enters the prison system.


26 posted on 06/09/2009 1:05:03 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Pistolshot

Remember, officially, according to the commander in chief of the soldiers who were shot, this was a

“senseless act of violence”

with no larger context. No link to terrorism, no link to the Black Muslim movement, no link to Islam, etc.


27 posted on 06/09/2009 1:05:41 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: STONEWALLS

Also look for the 0bama administration to cover for them, essentially giving them license to commit these acts of terror without retribution.


28 posted on 06/09/2009 1:06:31 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: NavVet
Well, there was the Anthrax attack.
29 posted on 06/09/2009 1:07:02 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Bobkk47

public hanging using pig entrails


30 posted on 06/09/2009 1:12:58 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I saw this on a Law & Order episode a few years ago.


31 posted on 06/09/2009 1:14:16 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

he’s begging for a one way ticket to Gitmo, island paradise of terrorists.......


32 posted on 06/09/2009 1:15:27 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Actually, he may be legally correct-seems there was a case against an Indian during the 1880s or so (okay, no offense to Native Americans) that killed a US trooper in a fight. The court found him innocent of murder as he and the trooper were in fact legal combatants due to the on going Indian campaigns and the state of war that existed. The fact that he was a man (and as a man, a warrior similar to a US trooper) of a tribe in conflict provided him protection from civil prosecution....

They had no “distinctive uniforms” either....

Just a few thoughts to chew on. The travesty is that while we as a nation and culture are in fact at war (meaning someone is going to lose); most in our nation figure only on how to make a buck or enjoy the summer... We may have already lost but for young men like the victim who was willing to put on his country's uniform, are you or yours? 23 years' AD, one daughter in USAF blue, one son in USMC digits, one at home for mom's sake.

33 posted on 06/09/2009 1:21:37 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret) "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The worst part is that this scum will be given a trial costing millions of dollars and lasting years, and then given a home in Club Fed, instead of being hung after a one-day trial.


34 posted on 06/09/2009 1:22:29 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Drop this animal....YES I SAID ANIMAL!...off on Parris Island. Justice would be dispensed in under one minute.


35 posted on 06/09/2009 1:23:56 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Oh well that’s good - you are free to go - pick up your rocket launcher on the way out! sarc/

Mel


36 posted on 06/09/2009 1:27:57 PM PDT by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: Bobkk47
"Public hanging would be a suitable sentence for this POC."

Too easy and too quick. He needs to be castrated, then hung up by his feet, partially disemboweled while still alive, then have pig fat ground into his stomach cavity, his eyes, his nostrils, his mouth, his rectum, and the place where his genitals once were. He should be left that way until he is finally pronounced dead. Hopefully that would take many, many hours. Once he's dead, he should be cut down, cut up into multiple pieces and fed to wild pigs. His head should be removed from his body, placed on a spike, and put on display so the birds can eat away the flesh from his skull. Then auction his skull off and give the proceeds to the families of the soldiers he shot.

37 posted on 06/09/2009 1:30:48 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Bobkk47

I have to disagree. I think life imprisonment. Maybe working on the Arkansas Prison Farm as a swineherd.
Fitting.


38 posted on 06/09/2009 1:51:10 PM PDT by Tupelo
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Agreed.


39 posted on 06/09/2009 1:51:52 PM PDT by Sister_T (The Obama Administration = EPIC FAIL!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Well I guess if someone kills this muslim terrorist then it won’t be murder because it will be justified. Our politicians will keep insisting that they are the religion of peace however. What really makes you want to puke is the thought of how many leftards are nodding their heads in agreement at his idiotic statements.


40 posted on 06/09/2009 1:53:14 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Free ThinkerNY

In other words, when sharia law replaces normal law, it will be “OK” to kill Christians and Jews.


41 posted on 06/09/2009 1:56:34 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (beware the alliance of the left and the jihadis)
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To: Bobkk47

Obama will probably force the charges against his brother be dropped and fly him on AIr Force One to the Muslim paradise of the killers choice.


42 posted on 06/09/2009 2:24:26 PM PDT by Brytani (DC Freeper Convention and National Tea Party - FreepMail Me for rooms and convention info!)
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To: Bobkk47
Public hanging would be a suitable sentence for this POC.

Flagellation would be better.

43 posted on 06/09/2009 4:02:35 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Pistolshot
Also, if the jihadis declared open warfare, shouldn't the recruiters start arming themselves?

There are some reports that they already have. You can conceal a lot under the ACU coat, which is worn untucked. :) But if the wear is officially authorized, then shoulder holsters, hip holsters or drop leg holster are all possibilities.

44 posted on 06/09/2009 4:21:11 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Pistolshot
Ok....so is he a prisoner of war?

Wouldn't this make him either a spy, a non-uniformed combatant, or a traitor, and possibly subject to summary judgement and execution?

45 posted on 06/09/2009 5:07:47 PM PDT by nonsporting
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