NEW conservative strategy: Vote Terry McAuliffe

[Gopher Broke]

Team,

I heard before that Moran was the weakest but now I am hearing from well-placed sources that we should vote for Terry McAuliffe.

Yes, he can raise money BUT he has extremely high negatives and many, many skeletons in the closet.

So, please, hold your nose and vote for Terry in the RAT primary.

[Reagan79]

I agree. He is too partisan and DNC for a state wide race in VA.

[Corin Stormhands]

In all reality, I don’t know that “strategic voting” will make a difference. I would predict that Deeds has this all locked up.

Yes, Moran was the weakest. So weak he didn’t even have a real shot in the primary. Rumor has it though that McAuliffe was calling donors last night saying “sorry, we can’t pull this off.” That’s a ~rumor~ though. I haven’t seen it verified.

Plus, there’s a story out today that the McAuliffe campaign gave their email list to a couple of VT “victims” who were protesting Deeds on the “gun show loophole.” That won’t help McAuliffe. Deeds issued a “how dare they exploit this” response.

Bottom line, McDonnell CAN beat Deeds. But we’ll have to work harder for it. Deeds has his flaws.

[AppyPappy]

In all honesty, I cannot vote for a person that I don’t want in office.

I voted for Moran this morning.

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

McCauliffe’s a carpetbagger form New York to boot.

[hoosierham]

I think crossover voting in the other party's primary is a very dangerous strategy that could easily backfire.

And it is fundamentally dishonest.

Is that really worthy of American patriots ?

[SlowBoat407]

Yeah, that whole “vote for the weakest candidate on the opposition” really worked out well for the presidential elections, didn’t it?

[Corin Stormhands]

I’ve come to the same conclusion and won’t be voting today. I was just pointing out the realities.

Unless voter turnout is really low and a LOT of conservatives/Republicans show up to vote, Deeds has this wrapped up.

I’ll be surprised if the result is otherwise.

[freekitty]

So true.

[Retired COB]

Yeah, that whole “vote for the weakest candidate on the opposition” really worked out well for the presidential elections, didn’t it?

That's how the Dems and Indys gave us John McCain. Maybe turn about is fair play.

[Clara Lou]

I have to disagree with your “fundamentally dishonest” comment. It’s not illegal. What, in your opinion, is wrong with strategery? Sure, it can backfire, but backfires are part of life.

[hoosierham]

IF for some reason your party's candidate is unopposed in the primary ,and it is legal for you to vote any party,then a reasonable person would want to vote for the person in the other party who comes closest to your views.

If on wants to influence politics ,why not influence it towards your views,not away.VOTING FOR THE WACKO IN HOPES THE VOTERS WILL REJECT HIM IN THE GENERAL ELECTION ENDS UP CREATING THE APPEARANCE OF A MUCH LARGER GROUP OF WACKO SUPPORTERS.And all politicians will attempt to cater to this "new" voting bloc.

[SlowBoat407]

I’m going to continue railing against the current primary system we have for presidential elections, which essentially knocked out good candidates too early based on things like “momentum”. By the time we got to vote in Virginia, there was no decent field left.

Whenever you have more than two people running, you have a good chance of ending up with a loser, simply because the opposition vote could be split between two better candidates. That’s how we got our last few presidents.

[hoosierham]

Is it morally correct to pretend to be a friend in order to get close enough to stab someone in the back?

If we say that we are for fair and free elections ,then I think it follows that casting votes in the opposition's primary is neither.It MAY be legal,but is it ethical and moral?

Similar issues are running for election as a Republican for the Senate,and then switching to the Democrat party without resigning the office.

Both are fundamentally acts of fraud.

[theDentist]

Sorry, but I don’t want McAuliffe to even have a snowball’s chance in hell to become Governor of Virginia. Eff Him.

[nina0113]

Do they still want people to sign a declaration of intent to support the candidate in the general?

[ruhbarb]

thats the way I see it. I don’t want them to do it and I will not do it.

[Corin Stormhands]

I don’t know that the Democrats have ever required that. The GOP has.

[freespirited]

Bottom line, McDonnell CAN beat Deeds. But we’ll have to work harder for it. Deeds has his flaws.

I agree. For starters, I am wondering what his built-in geographic constituency is? Rural Bath county? Charlottesville? How many people is that? What else?

McDonnell has roots in NOVA where his dad still lives and in Virginia Beach. He can also attract the military vote. He's better known now than he was when he ran for AG.

But what may well be most on McDonnell's side is the national economic meltdown. At the rate we are going things will not be better in November and will likely be worse. That doesnt bode well for RAT candidates.

[PhiKapMom]

I agree with you 100%!

[Darnright]

You’re a good guy, I know you are.

That said, have you ever heard about that story by Uncle Remus?

Absolutely, positively, DO NOT throw McAwful in the briar patch. DO NOT!!!

[Clara Lou]

Is it morally correct to pretend to be a friend in order to get close enough to stab someone in the back?
Oh, please. Voting legally in an election is not comparable to stabbing a friend in the back. It is legal in the state of Texas to vote across ballot. Democrat and Republican alike can (and do) do it. This is not a moral issue.

[ClayinVA]

I don’t think so, Terry is too dangerous to go to a state-wide election. He could pull in way to much money into the state. Plus, I really think that guy is scum.

[hoosierham]

Legal and morally right are not always ,indeed,often are not,the same.

I submit to you that abortion,including ,partial birth abortion is legal;do you want to tell me it is therefore morally right?

The principles of a person are more likely to be revealed in the little things that get no one's attention ,or in what one does when no one is watching.It is easy to take a stand in public to the cheers of one's friends.

I stand by my opinion that lying about one's party affiliation in order to vote for a weak candidate in the primary,all the while never intending to actually elect that person is dishonorable.

[hoosierham]

Obama got “elected” without evening proving U.S. birth status-why should a few “skeletons” stop any other Democrat?

[Clara Lou]

I agree that lying is wrong. What I am telling you is that in Texas we don't have to "lie" to vote Republican/Libertarian/Democrat/etc. All of the candidates are on one ballot that every voter in Texas receives. There is no lie involved. It is legal. We in Texas have chosen to allow crossover voting.

[hoosierham]

So can you vote for one candidate in each party?

[Clara Lou]

When an election rolls around, all of the candidates for each position (governor, state supreme court justice, justice of the peace, constable, whatever the position) are on the ballot. For each position to be decided, the Texas voter can vote for any candidate listed, regardless of party. I could vote for Repub POTUS, Dem governor (perish the thought!), and Green Party dog catcher.

[hoosierham]

primary or general election?

Of course everyone has the right to vote for anyone on the ballot in general election,but I still maintain it is morally dishonest to vote for someone in the primary whom you do not intend to support in the general election.

But then I also have always thought the primaries,i.e. selection of party candidates ought to be paid for ,and held,by each party,not the state.

[Darnright]

As the results are coming in, with 45% of the precincts voting, it appears that even Virginia’s Democrats can’t stomach Clinton toady Terry McAuliffe:

R. Creigh Deeds (D) 65,120 50%

Terry McAuliffe (D) 33,520 26%

Brian Moran (D) 31,327 24%

[Corin Stormhands]

AP and Washington Post have called it for Deeds.

[EDINVA]

Time to roll up our sleeves !

[vamoose]

I voted for Deeds and what I had hoped for came about: McAwful is getting stomped so badly that he will never run for office again in Virginia or any state.

[Darnright]

Uh-oh...

87%
Winner Candidate Incumbent Votes Vote %

Terry McAuliffe (D) 126,531 40%
X

R. Creigh Deeds (D) 126,531 40%

Brian Moran (D) 61,907

[Darnright]

WHEW! They fixed it. That about gave me a heart attack.

Winner Candidate Incumbent Votes Vote %
X

R. Creigh Deeds (D) 127,881 49%

Terry McAuliffe (D) 69,637 27%

Brian Moran (D) 62,548 24%

[Corin Stormhands]

Yeah, I just went to check and couldn’t figure out where you were getting those numbers.

[Darnright]

Precincts Reporting: 95%
Winner Candidate Incumbent Votes Vote %
X

R. Creigh Deeds (D) 144,156 49%

Terry McAuliffe (D) 78,471 27%

Brian Moran (D) 70,813 24%

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

As I understand it Deeds is the closest thing to being an old style Virginia Democrat, but he hasn’t been able to raise money. Since he is the nominee won’t he now get $$$, and because of his positions be the most dangerous candidate?

[Corin Stormhands]

Yes, he will definitely be the most difficult challenge. And I’m sure the national money will come rolling in.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

So is he to the right or left of Jim Webb. I realize that he is a moving target.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

I meant Webb is a moving target.

[Corin Stormhands]

He got the NRA endorsement last time, but he’s squished on guns and has been dismissive of the NRA this time. He’s voted to raise taxes.

He’s no conservative.