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Why Couldn’t Obama’s Speechwriters Find a “Peace” Quote from the Koran?
First Things ^ | David Goldman

Posted on 06/07/2009 4:27:52 PM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

Of many strange moments in President Obama’s Cairo speech, perhaps the strangest is the conclusion:

The Holy Quran tells us, Mankind, we have created you male and a female. And we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.

The Talmud tells us, The whole of the Torah is for the purpose of promoting peace. The Holy Bible tells us, Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.

What does the idea of gender and tribe distinction have to do with peace? The answer is nothing, except that Obama’s speechwriters felt compelled to drag out some Koranic quotation that sounded vaguely like the biblical and rabbinic concept of peace. The fact that this was the best they could do speaks volumes.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhoegypt; bhomiddleeast; bhovisit; egypt; islam; koran; middleeast; muslimworld; obama; peace; quotes

1 posted on 06/07/2009 4:27:53 PM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

I wonder if they tried to find any mentioning of Jerusalem. ;)


2 posted on 06/07/2009 4:30:40 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

I’ll go out on a limb and risk being assused of being a racist, bigot, homophobe, etc., etc., by saying there probably aren’t any references to peace and love in the Koran, despite what our newly-admitted Muslim President says.


3 posted on 06/07/2009 4:35:29 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
9:29 "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the last day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his apostle nor acknowledge the religion of truth of the people of the Book (the Jews and the Christians) until they pay the Jizya [tax on non-Muslims] with willing submission and feel themselves subdued."

Doesn't sound very peaceful to me, but hey, what do I know?

4 posted on 06/07/2009 4:36:43 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: ozzymandus

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=simple&q1=love&size=First+100

83 times.


5 posted on 06/07/2009 4:39:13 PM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

There is nothing peaceful about Islam, and the Koran is merely their playbook for world domination. No peace necessary.


6 posted on 06/07/2009 4:41:37 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: ozzymandus

note also that male and female we cretaed you is pretty much a blatant ripoff of Genesis:

27So God created man in his own image,

in the image of God

he created him;

male and female

he created them.

28God blessed them and said to them, Be fruitful and increase in number;

So Islam was copying a bunch of things from the beginning.

Very telling he couldn’t find a peace quote from the Koran.

Also, why did he use the Talmud along with the Koran and the Bible. The Talmud isn’t the word of God, it’s more comparable to the Federalist Papers or something like that. It doesn’t really fit in with 2 Holy texts.


7 posted on 06/07/2009 4:42:16 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

No wonder since he made so many misinformed statements regarding Islam’s contributions to the world ... he surely could have made one up ....


8 posted on 06/07/2009 4:42:28 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

So? They’re all about how much Allah loves you when you kill non-believers.


9 posted on 06/07/2009 4:43:08 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: jeltz25

Did TOTUS give the speech? I could say I missed it but I can’t stand to look at him let alone his reading style.


10 posted on 06/07/2009 4:45:36 PM PDT by mcshot (The line has been drawn in the sand: It's good vs evil.)
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To: pnh102

Your answer is here

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=simple&q1=Jerusalem&size=First+100


11 posted on 06/07/2009 4:47:24 PM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

Here are the “peace” quotes...FWIW...

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=simple&q1=peace&size=First+100


12 posted on 06/07/2009 4:54:32 PM PDT by BamaBlue
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

I found it interesting about all the wrong history in his speech in Egypt....is his young speech writer purposely trying to make a fool of him? We know Zero lies every time he opens his mouth, but he didn’t write that speech.


13 posted on 06/07/2009 4:55:02 PM PDT by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: jeltz25

Obama’s speech writer is not very well educated. Seems to know little history. Either Obama is as ignorant as his speech writer, or he does not read his speeches ahead of time.


14 posted on 06/07/2009 4:59:12 PM PDT by abclily
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass; BamaBlue

Heh... no shocker there. I guess Jerusalem must be “the city that must not be named” as far as the Koran is concerned.


15 posted on 06/07/2009 5:00:30 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

No less an authority than George W Bush used to say that Islam “is the religion of peace”. It must be true.


16 posted on 06/07/2009 5:01:35 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

There is no peace in the Koran to find , only submission to Muhammad ... Muhammad was very much like John F’ing Kerry’s infamous Ghengis Khan ,, he just invented a religion to wrap his conquests up in.. and to ensure his work would continue.


17 posted on 06/07/2009 5:10:53 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
There's been a mistake! Islam is not the religion OF peace.

It the religion AT peace (with it's violent doctrines and history).

18 posted on 06/07/2009 5:22:00 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=simple&q1=peace&size=First+100

Only 49 times -- and few of them positive...

19 posted on 06/07/2009 6:02:38 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: PubliusMM

” There is nothing peaceful about Islam, ..”

Uh oh.
You do realize that you have just violated an Obama dictum ??!!

Obama declared in Cairo that part of his oath of office requires him to “ fight “ negative stereotypes of Islam worldwide.
Methinks that Obama’s retaking of the oath of office, where the good Christian could not find a single Bible in the entire White House-
may have been via a Koran.

Obama’s speech in Cairo:

“And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States
to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam
wherever they appear,”

Our Muslim president does not consider it part of his oath to fight negative stereotypes of the United States, our military, Republicans ,Christians or Jews.
Just Muslims.


20 posted on 06/07/2009 6:08:18 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

Speaks volumes . . .

INDEED.

if not libraries worth.


21 posted on 06/07/2009 6:21:49 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: All

Ever READ any of the ‘holy Koran? The following is only a few of the horrible, hate filled verses.
Notice how many require Muslims to fight all who are NOT Muslims.

Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 90

Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They’d like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell. 2:96

For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104

Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don’t kill them.) 2:191-2

War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217

Those who marry unbelievers will burn in the Fire. 2:221

Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

Apostates will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:86-88

Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 3:91

“Ye were upon the brink of an abyss of fire, and He did If you die fighting for Allah, you’ll be rewarded in heaven. 3:157

Those who die fighting for Allah will go to heaven. 3:195

Disbelievers will go to Hell. 3:196

Allah will bestow a vast reward on those who fight in religious wars. 4:74

Believers fight for Allah; disbelievers fight for the devil. So fight the minions of the devil. 4:76

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89

For the wrongdoing Jews, Allah has prepared a painful doom. 4:160-1

Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom. 5:33

Cut off the hands of thieves. It is an exemplary punishment from Allah. 5:38

Christians will be burned in the Fire. 5:72

Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom. 5:73

Muslims that make friends with disbelievers will face a doom prepared for them by Allah. 5:80

Disbelievers will be owners of hell-fire. 5:86

Those who disbelieve will be forced to drink boiling water, and will face a painful doom. 6:70

Believers must fight for Allah. They must kill and be killed , and are bound to do so by the Torah, Gospel, and Quran. But Allah will reward them for it. 9:111

Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123

Allah has prepared a Fire for the disbelievers. When they want a shower, Allah will give them a shower of molten lead to burn their faces. 18:29

Christians will cry out to Allah’s “partners”, but they won’t hear them; Allah will send them to their doom. 18:52

Disbelievers will wear garments of fire, boiling fluid will be poured on their heads, their bellies and skin will be melted, they will be tormented with iron hooks, and when they try to escape they will be driven back with the taunt: Taste the doom of burning. 22:19-22

Smite the necks of the disbelievers whenever you fight against them. Those who die fighting for Allah will be rewarded. 47:4

Those in the Garden will drink delicious wine, while those in the Fire will drink boiling water that will tear apart their intestines. 47:15

Allah curses people by making them deaf and blind. 47:23

If you refuse to fight for Allah, he will punish you with a painful doom. 48:16

But if you’re willing to fight for Allah, he will provide you with lots of booty. 48:19-20

Allah has prepared a painful doom for evil-doers. 76:31

Sura 33 “And he bequeathed to you their lands, their homes and their possessions, together with land you have never trodden” (33.27

“AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL THERE IS NO PERSECUTION , AND RELIGION SHALL BE ONLY FOR ALLAH 2:193

AND FINALLY:
“ISLAM ISN’T IN AMERICA TO BE EQUAL TO ANY OTHER FAITH, BUT TO BECOME DOMINANT. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. Everthing we need to know is in the Koran. We don’t need to look somewhere else.” OMAR M. AHMAD, CHAIRMAN OF CAIR, the mainsteam Muslim advocacy group.

Over 90% of the Koran is filled with such horrors.
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22 posted on 06/07/2009 7:25:30 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

They would have to sift through all those pages of violence to find the tiny bits stolen from Judaism. Too much work for Democrats.


23 posted on 06/07/2009 7:30:20 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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