Ancient Antarctic Mountains Found Under Miles of Ice

AFP ^ | June 3, 2009 | NA

[neverdem]

Millions of years ago, rivers ran in Antarctica through craggy mountain valleys that were strangely similar to the modern European Alps, Chinese and British scientists reported on Wednesday.

In a study published by the British journal Nature, the scientists described a vast terrain that had been hidden beneath ice up to two miles thick for eons, until new imaging technology recently uncovered them.

"The landscape has probably been preserved beneath the ice sheet for around 14 million years," the paper said.

The imaging revealed "classic Alpine topography" similar to Europe's Alps, showing that rivers had once existed on Antarctica and had cut their way through the mountains. Later, these valleys were gouged and deepened by glaciers...

[neverdem]

More greenhouse gas drivel, where was Antarctica before it parked its butt on the South Pole, in a temperate climate somewhere else?

GEOLOGIC TIMELINE

Permian Period 290-248 million years ago
A single supercontinent, Pangaea, forms as Earth's landmasses collide and merge. Pangaea extends across all climatic zones and nearly from one pole to the other. This supercontinent is surrounded by an immense world ocean.

Extensive glaciation persists in what is now India, Australia, and Antarctica. Hot, dry conditions prevail elsewhere on Pangaea, and deserts become widespread.

The Gamburtsev mountains and the origin and early evolution of the Antarctic Ice Sheet

[edcoil]

Isn’t that where they built the alien base.

[LiveFree99]

Lovecraft was right about the Mountains of Madness.

[omega4179]

Isn’t it Hitler’s ufo base

[Star Traveler]

The article said — The imaging revealed “classic Alpine topography” similar to Europe’s Alps, showing that rivers had once existed on Antarctica and had cut their way through the mountains.

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Well, obviously — this shows that we survived “Global Warming” before, so I don’t know why these liberals are all wrapped up in it... LOL...

[ I mean, it was obviously “Global Warming” if Antarctica had rivers flowing... :-)... ]

[americanophile]

"an ice sheet between 5,410 and 10,285 feet thick"

That's more than 8 Empire State Buildings on top of one another.

[GSP.FAN]

More greenhouse gas drivel, where was Antarctica before it parked its butt on the South Pole, in a temperate climate somewhere else?

Ancient cemetery found in ‘green’ Sahara Desert.

The slender arms of the youngsters were still extended to the woman in perpetual embrace when researchers discovered their skeletons in a remarkable cemetery that is providing clues to two civilizations who lived there, a thousand years apart, when the region was moist and green.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2008-08-14-green-sahara-cemetery_N.htm

[neverdem]

Heads up!

[neverdem]

Thanks for the link.

[calex59]

More greenhouse gas drivel, where was Antarctica before it parked its butt on the South Pole, in a temperate climate somewhere else?

Actually I didn't go to your links but I believe that Antarctica shared the same fate that the arctic did. A shifting of our poles led to the north and south pole freezing, hence the Mammoths found frozen with unchewed food still in their mouths etc. Many unexplained things in this world, and many idiotic global warming freaks out there also.

[ETL]

Movie: "The Land That Time Forgot"

"Negotiating an underwater tunnel [beneath the ice] to gain the island's interior, those aboard U-33 are amazed to discover a tropical prehistoric world kept warm by volcanic forces. Here dinosaurs that should be long extinct live and roam, as do a curious race of humanoid savages that appear to exhibit all the various phases of Man's evolutionary development. To survive long enough to repair and replenish the U-boat, wartime enemies must put aside their differences and cooperate with one another. But not everyone is playing from the Kumbaya songbook... The Land That Time Forgot is a thoroughly old fashioned sci-fi/fantasy adventure of the type they weren't really making anymore even in 1975. A lot of this has to do with the script sticking to Burroughs' Victorian style. (His Caprona tales were first published in 1918; as late as World War II he'd still be cranking out novels in the writing style of the 19th Century.) The film's a throwback to the likes of the original King Kong and potboilers such as Unknown Island (1948) and The Land Unknown (1957), only in color."
http://www.eccentric-cinema.com/cult_movies/land_time_forgot.htm

YouTube trailer: The Land That Time Forgot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beirEaMzV-s

[calex59]

The slender arms of the youngsters were still extended to the woman in perpetual embrace when researchers discovered their skeletons in a remarkable cemetery that is providing clues to two civilizations who lived there, a thousand years apart, when the region was moist and green.

Many scientist today attribute the wearing of the Sphinx to rain water about 10,000 years ago. Egypt had heavy rain then they think and have evidence to support it.

[ETL]

Volcanic eruptions reshape Arctic ocean floor: study
June 25, 2008 | AFP

Recent massive volcanoes have risen from the ocean floor deep under the Arctic ice cap, spewing plumes of fragmented magma into the sea, scientists who filmed the aftermath reported Wednesday.

The eruptions -- as big as the one that buried Pompei -- took place in 1999 along the Gakkel Ridge, an underwater mountain chain snaking 1,800 kilometres (1,100 miles) from the northern tip of Greenland to Siberia.

Scientists suspected even at the time that a simultaneous series of earthquakes were linked to these volcanic spasms.

But when a team led of scientists led by Robert Sohn of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts finally got a first-ever glimpse of the ocean floor 4,000 meters (13,000 feet) beneath the Arctic pack ice, they were astonished.

What they saw was unmistakable evidence of explosive eruptions rather than the gradual secretion of lava bubbling up from Earth's mantle onto the ocean floor.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gRI87Fyr-TpE6OBYfAcYxFKSXRJg

________________________________________________________________

From Ohio State University News, Dec 2007...

EARTH'S HEAT ADDS TO CLIMATE CHANGE TO MELT GREENLAND ICE

COLUMBUS , Ohio -- Scientists have discovered what they think may be another reason why Greenland 's ice is melting: a thin spot in Earth's crust is enabling underground magma to heat the ice.

They have found at least one “hotspot” in the northeast corner of Greenland -- just below a site where an ice stream was recently discovered.

The researchers don't yet know how warm the hotspot is. But if it is warm enough to melt the ice above it even a little, it could be lubricating the base of the ice sheet and enabling the ice to slide more rapidly out to sea.

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/hotgreen.htm

[DHSMostWanted]

Yea there was a pyramid with the Alien eggs in the sacrificial chamber. The Predators would come and hunt them after the Aliens burst out of the stomachs.

[neverdem]

Thanks for all of your stuff.

[Ole Okie]

Thanks for all of your stuff.

Ditto.

[swatbuznik]

“The Land that Time Forgot.”

Awww, one of my favorite childhood movies!!

[ETL]

You’re welcome, and thank *you* for all the stuff you do.

[GSP.FAN]

Your welcome,i posted the article on another website disputing global warming,climate change or whatever you wanna call it.
My replies came in the form of graphs about sea level,temp etc etc.
I replied does nobody comment,i was thrown off the website..

[Citizen Tom Paine]

When was the last time that Antarctica was ice free? Isn’t there an old chart that shows Antarctica without ice?

[KevinDavis]

Which leads to some credance to Atlantis being in Antarica theory or it could be in a galaxy far far away....

[KevinDavis]

That would be the famous Piri reis map...

[ETL]

Awww, one of my favorite childhood movies!!

I still enjoy those old sci-fi flicks much more than most of the newer ones.

[ajay_kumar]

Not possible, the earth was created only 6000 years ago according to gov. Huckabee.

[GSP.FAN]

That would fit in with the floods in the bible, also with the Epic of Gilgamesh and Herodotus.

[doc1019]

Not possible, the earth was created only 6000 years ago according to gov. Huckabee.

And most Bible believing Christians. ;-)

[muawiyah]

Baptists think the Earth is much older than 6,000 years and The Huck is a Baptist.

Try again later once you figure out what's going on.

[muawiyah]

The Potsdam Institute in/near Berlin came up with the thesis that the Sahara had a pluvial about 7,000 years ago back to about 20,000 BC.

This allowed animals and humans to move in.

[muawiyah]

NO Bible Believing Christian believes any such thing. You pride yourself entirely too much.

[calex59]

Thank you for the info.

[ApplegateRanch]

This what the AGW alarmists want for my back yard...and yours.

Damned AGW! My limas are freezing their cotyledons off. Dropping back into the high 30s tonight.

[Redcloak]

NO, no, no... Not that one... The one where the Ancients put the 2nd stargate.

[muawiyah]

In general if you want to plant beans you have to wait until it is usually at least 60 degrees farenheit at night. All beans are sub-tropical or tropical plants and the cooler temperatures simply allow the beans to rot in the fields.

I know lots of work has been done in recent years improving bean survivability, but whenever I've planted them too early they didn't make it.

Fortunately it's above 60F all this coming week, but there's no telling about next week.

It's already a full MONTH later than you can usually plant beans, or peanuts, in Virginia.

We could be in for a serious crop failure if this keeps up, or even if it simply stops raining.

[doc1019]

OK

[ApplegateRanch]

Same here. It got warm, about 1 week after “last frost”; njow it’s cold again. At least a couple of dozen of them made it out of the ground.

The other beans are okay, but them limas like their night sweats.

[ApplegateRanch]

Same here. It got warm, about 1 week after “last frost”; njow it’s cold again. At least a couple of dozen of them made it out of the ground.

The other beans are okay, but them limas like their night sweats.

[count-your-change]

How would a shifting of poles lower the temperature quickly enough to freeze food in the mammoth’s mouths?

[org.whodat]

You are not free to disclose that information!!!!

[Vigilanteman]

Fascinating stuff, archeological digs. It is even more fascinating when it collaborates or sheds details on recorded history. We know the Numadians, Hannibal’s main allies in the Second Punic War came from the northern Sahara and it was then a fertile region. Could be those elephants Hannibal’s army used were actually SUV’s which triggered the global warming that turned the Sahara from lush semitropical farmland into a desert. :->

[muawiyah]

It's easy to confuse the last major scheduled glaciation with the Younger Dryas.

First off, the glacial period ended about 15,000 years ago. Everything was nice and people and animals were moving North into new grasslands, with forests following, and it was Fur Shur that a new Interglacial had begun.

This gave humanity a minimum of 10,000 years to invent culture and technology before the big ice returned.

Then, bang, about 12,800 years ago it turned cold so suddenly that mammoths were frozen to death with food in their mouths and stomachs.

This is called the Younger Dryas period ~ a "stadial" ~ a brief return to some serious glaciation for about 1000 years.

All the ice hadn't yet been melted when this event happened, so when it did, and the melting stopped, the shoreline stopped rising around the world. The oceans began rising again when it was over.

Back before they'd figured out how to date these things they thought the Younger Dryas was a normal "stadial", but it seems not to have been the case.

What we really need to worry about is the present "interglacial" period. Most of them ~ the big ones ~ are about 10,000 years long. Ours started 15,000 years ago. That means we are 5,000 years OVERDUE for a return of the big ice.

Something is wrong. One theory is that with the invention of agriculture we managed to directly, or indirectly, create enough methane and other green house gases to give the Earth a critical edge on holding back the big ice.

If that's so, then efforts to STOP the creation of greenhouse gases may well give us a return of the big ice something like the Younger Dryas.

Since the normal climate of the Earth for the last two million years has been lots of ice interspersed with short, or very short warm periods, it would be wise to bone up on the words: stadial, interstadial, glacial and interglacial.

Just getting a grasp of those terms will put you head and shoulders above the Leftwingtards who want us to freeze to death in the dark.

[doc1019]

Upon reflection, I have changed my sermon for tomorrow. I will inform my congregation that because they believe the Bible they are non-Christians. Because they believe that evolution is wrong and that creation is much longer than 6000 years, they are not Christians.
I’m sure this will go over big.
However, in the name of correctness, I will sacrifice my beliefs and the beliefs of millions of Christians to get the story right.
I have also decided to make a proclamation to all my fellow pastors that they have been preaching a falsehood to their prisoners.
Thank you sir for setting me straight.

[muawiyah]

Anything for a friend.

If you believe the Bible you necessarily believe God was around a very long time ~ just as He told you.

[doc1019]

God has no beginning nor end. He created time and when his promises to mankind are done, time will disappear. What does this have to do with anything? He created all that we have in six days … nuff said, in my humble opinion.

[CapnJack]

In a related story, American scientists at McMurdo Research Center discover a strange anomaly buried in the Antarctic ice ...

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks neverdem, ApplegateRanch, and muawiyah for the pings. All that talk about beans kinda made me hungry. ;')

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[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

Many scientist today attribute the wearing of the Sphinx to rain water about 10,000 years ago.

I believe that this group includes zero archaeologists, since archaeologists generally date the Sphinx to roughly the period of the nearby pyramids. The Sahara had become totally arid by that time, in fact the drying of the Sahara is often given credit for the rise of Egyptian civilization, since the people moved to the river valley, increasing the population density, requiring more intensive irrigation. This required greater coordination of the labor in the area.

[ajay_kumar]

I heard Huck say that with my own ears in one of his sermons. But you seem to know it all so I will defer to
your infallible wisdom.

[AndrewC]

Eerily reminds me of an Arlo Guthrie song about a trash pile and an envelope, "Alice's Restaurant".

You can get anything you want there.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

[bert]

There is a variance of 4,875 feet. One can only wonder why the discrepancy is so large.

Either there was less snow fall and ice accumulation, one area has been there a shorter time or one area is much warmer.

It reminds me of the woman on the commercial where she bought stuff to build her house and saved between 30 and 40 thousand $$$. There is a variance of $10K or 30%. The imprecision makes you wonder.