Posted on 06/04/2009 12:47:07 PM PDT by buccaneer81
Victim's family outraged Greyhound bus where man beheaded still on the road Published Thursday June 4th, 2009 Chinta Puxley, THE CANADIAN PRESS
WINNIPEG - The Greyhound bus in which Vince Li attacked and dismembered fellow passenger Tim McLean last summer should be taken off the road out of respect, the victim's mother said Thursday.
Carol deDelley says there was little doubt Vince Li would remain in a mental hospital for now. But she says she worries about the coming years.
A spokeswoman for Greyhound said the notorious bus is now used in another part of Canada.
"After an extensive restoration and cleaning process and a new bus number, the bus is in service in another province," Abby Wambaugh said, declining to say whether Greyhound considered taking the bus out of commission following the tragedy.
McLean's mother, Carol deDelley, said she is haunted every time she sees a Greyhound bus, wondering whether that's where her son's life brutally ended last summer.
"The town I live in is a Greyhound stop," she said Thursday. "I can seldom leave my home, never mind get on the highway, without encountering at least one of those buses."
Li was found not criminally responsible for killing McLean in front of horrified passengers near Portage la Prairie, Man., last July. A judge ruled in March that Li suffered from untreated schizophrenia and did not realize that killing the 22-year-old carnival worker was wrong.
The review board responsible for Li's fate ruled this week that the Chinese immigrant will remain institutionalized for at least another year.
In the meantime, deDelley said the bus that became a gruesome crime scene should be taken off the road.
"That would be the respectful thing to do," she said. "Greyhound doesn't want to lose the cost of a bus. I think it's completely disgraceful. But then again, I never even heard a message of condolence from Greyhound."
The prospect of seeing the bus where McLean was murdered haunts many grieving the loss. In victim impact statements read before the review board, several family members and friends talked about the difficulty of seeing a Greyhound bus on the road.
"I wonder, is that the bus my son was slaughtered on?" deDelley told the hearing. "Did they ever get all the blood out? I don't want these thoughts, they just come. Since I have to travel the highway to get to the counselling and therapy sessions I require for me to cope, what choice do I have?"
Another family friend told the hearing every time she sees a Greyhound bus, she's reminded of the gruesome way McLean died.
"When I see a Greyhound bus . . . I experience a chill," Brenda Lewis told the hearing. "Bile rises into my throat and it chokes me."
Li will only be let out of the secure ward of the psychiatric facility if he is escorted at all times by two staff members and he can only leave the facility if he is accompanied by two peace officers.
"The review board is of the opinion that Mr. Li is a significant threat to the safety of the public," the board's order states.
The detailed reasons for the board's decision may be released in several months.
In its ruling, the board adopted the recommendations of Li's psychiatrist, who said Li no longer hears voices in his head but still needs to be locked up under the "highest level of security possible."
Li's case will be reviewed annually to determine if he is well enough in the future to be released into the community. Attending those hearings will force the family to relive the tragedy, deDelley said.
"Every year, to have to endure this is ridiculous."
Canada ping.
Someone owes me a bus!
No such thing as too much respect.
I can see being outraged that the Canadian police did nothing while the maniac was inside the bus defiling the body of their son, but I’m not sure I understand the issue here
does she want them to shut Greyhound down?? If Li had been having a burger at the time would she want all of the fast food places closed down too?
Typical. The bus was obviously involved and now it drives off scott free!
There is NO justice.
As long as the head is not rolling around the floor of the bus on mountain roads, I see no problem.
Give me a break. With all due respect to the victim’s family, do they really expect all places where violent crimes are committed to be taken out of commission, no longer used, left unoccupied, torn down, etc.? They did move the bus to a different province and gave it a different number. That should be enough.
The BUS didn’t do anything.
This is as silly/stupid/ridiculous as Virginia Tech converting a classrooom building into a “peace” museum.
Out of respect that the family won’t suffer trauma every time the see a bus, all buses should be banned from Canada.
Good thing the military doesn’t do this with our equipment in which men were killed, we’d never have a medevac helo in the air.
While I feel for the family’s loss, this is stupid. Why should they take the bus off the road unless the guys blood was so contaminated as to make the bus a biohazard?
While I can see how that would haunt this mother, to expect Greyhound to trash a $250,000 bus out of “respect” is a bit much. Maybe she could start a fundraiser and buy the bus to have as a memorial or sell for a good cause.
They could personally buy the bus and decommission it themselves...
Or close the ocean down if anyone drowns in it. Out of respect, you know.
bad, bad bus.
“What’s on the road, a head?”
“No no no, it’s ‘what’s on the road, ahead.’”
“Greyhound doesn’t want to lose the cost of a bus. I think it’s completely disgraceful. But then again, I never even heard a message of condolence from Greyhound.”
What are they offering to buy the bus? Oh, nothing? Well then.....
You’re right. This makes no sense. I assume these poor people are (understandably) too wild with grief to think clearly. That story really was horrific.
Unfortunately, that appears to be the trend here and elsewhere.
If she can pick it out from a lot full of buses by physical characteristics alone i.e. no number or bus name visible, then maybe they can consider it. Otherwise, life’s tough.
Ms. DeDelley, sorry about your loss. But if it bothers you so much, I’m sure Greyhound would be glad to sell you the bus for a fair price. For an additional fee, they would be glad to demolish it. So if you and your friends care so much, start raising funds. Otherwise, don’t drive up everyone else’s bus ticket prices because of your personal issues.
Maybe they should have reupholstered it in Red as a kind of
memorial? Put plastic flowers on it?
Paint it black with “Death Bus” in white letters?
Goth riders to get special discount?
Unbelievable!
Okay, we can scrap out the bus for you.
What? You don’t want to pay for the bus, you want our company to just throw it away out of pocket to make you feel better?
I’m sorry, these nice gentlemen will escort you to the door now...
I wonder what they would have asked for if someone threw him off the golden state bridge?
Golden Gate Bridge...
I think I better stop posting while the Dr. has me on Vicoden...
I’m outraged that they’re outraged.
What I wanna know is who has the job these days to do nuthing but sit at home and try to figure out new ways/reasons for people to be pissed off all the time?
I’m dam mad nobody offered me that job!
How does a family outrage a Greyhound bus, anyway?
Oh, please.
Why not just cover the seat where the man was beheaded with flowers and candles?? Oh, make that two seats... One for the head and one for the body?
Whenever I see a Greyhound Bus, I think “OH...WOW! a Greyhound bus!, haven’t seen one of them in years”.
Well...I recall thinking that years ago when I last saw a Greyhound bus.
He’s dead. Greyhound owes you nothing. Get over it.
Now the moonpie who murdered him is a different story. He should be taken out behind a barn and shot in the head at close range, then fed to hogs.
Hello, I am TRYING to eat. I nearly choked to death, laughing, and then where would you be? We'd have to put Death Poster on all of your posts!!
The useful life of a Greyhound bus is 7.2 years, so eventually the company will take the bus out of service.
If the family wants it done sooner, they can buy the bus or the company.
>>As long as the head is not rolling around the floor of the bus on mountain roads, I see no problem.
ROFLMAO...
If I ever take a bus again I’ll need to check under the seat.
These people should just buy the damn bus and make a shrine out of it if they like. It’s their problem, not that of Greyhound.
LQ
Wow look at the compassionate Christians cracking jokes about a young man having his head chopped off while out of the other side of their mouths they talk about how Muslims across the board should be held responsible for the actions of extremists who do the same. Hypocrite scum.
Maybe Obama could buy it and use it to throw his friends under.
“Hypocrite scum.”
Too much caffeine?
Your posting history is revealing. You like to fight don’t you!
“The review board responsible for Li’s fate ruled this week that the Chinese immigrant will remain institutionalized for at least another year. “
In China Li would already have been executed. It’s clear that China has a better grasp on reality than the Canadians.
What did they expect them to do with the bus? Insurance Claim? However, I certainly don't want to ride on it.
Ktulu is right. The comments on this story are way out of line.
Easy solution: The family can buy the bus from Greyhound at a fair market price, and then decommission it themselves.
The family should make a cash offer to Greyhound for the bus.
Otherwise, tough luck.
Greyhound wasn’t at fault.
The bus wasn’t at fault.
We don’t demolish buildings where murders occur.
We don’t tear up streets and intersections that were the sites of fatal accidents.
I think some of the sarcasm is due to the strange object of the family’s anger. Why direct your anger at an inanimate object? Why not be outraged that this detestable murderer is getting away with it?
But joking about the young man’s horrific death, or anyone’s death, is out of line. Murder is never funny.
those damned buses have been taking lessons from those EVIL SUV’s!
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